Fissure and tags?

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Chronicallyill
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   Posted 5/3/2008 3:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi I'm wondering if anyone has had issues with fissure and tags on their bottoms? It's very painful and hoping for some insights on how to heal them. It feels like my butt is ripping apart everytime I sit on the toilet. It's been an ongoing problem since I was 15, a 7 yr problem. I am planning on getting the tag removed soon I hope. Unfortunately at that time I have to get another colonoscopy.

FallColors
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   Posted 5/3/2008 4:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Chronicallyill,

I'm sorry you aregoing through this! There is at least on other thread that deals with fissures. I sugges you check them out. Lots of people who are too experienced with them. Also, I have read a couple posts a while ago about how you have to be very careful about removing anal tags. They just don't heal very well in CD folks. There are creams that may help. I suggest you ask your GI or your oclo-rectal surgeon.

Take care!

Ides
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   Posted 5/3/2008 5:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I can still recall the pain of having BMs when I had my 5 fissures. I can only describe it as like passing shards of glass or razor blades. My GI prescribed Lidocaine ointment to help deaden the area prior to passing stool. That really helped. He also gave me a strong steroid ointment to use on the area. The brand he prescribed to me was Proctosol. It also had an applicator to get it up into the proper area.

Others have had good success healing fissures using nitroglycerin ointment. We had a member some years ago that could not find anything to heal her reoccirring fissures. She finally had botox injected into the fissures and it worked like a charm!

As FallColors advised - be careful getting your anal tag removed. Make sure you get the opinion of a GI well-versed in IBD issues before proceeding with your skin tag removal.
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pb4
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   Posted 5/3/2008 8:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I've got 17 yrs experiance with perianal crohns skin tags (ifnact that's where my CD started) and getting them reomoved while the tags are larger (flaring) is not recommended at all or the area will not heal since it's diseased tissue, not like dealing with a hemmie (vein).

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


not creative
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   Posted 5/6/2008 4:17 PM (GMT -7)   
My GI told me he wouldn't remove my tags because it has a chance of my losing sphincter control since they tend to be made of that tissue and I would hate to lose continence on top of everything else. Also, I've heard of people having them removed only for them to return.

Unfortunately, I think it's something we just have to deal with. :(
Laurenne, 23 Student @ University of California, Davis.
Dx'd w/ IBS and CD in 2002
On Humira, Strattera, Zoloft, (Multivitamin, Flax Oil, and Omega complex when I remember.)


ivy6
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   Posted 5/6/2008 5:13 PM (GMT -7)   
A botox injection can also help relieve fissure pain. You might like to ask your doctor or surgeon if that's a good option for you.

I'd repeat what the others said about being cautious about removing skin tags. Most doctors will tell you that they tend not to heal in Crohn's patients. The last thing you want is a chronic ulcer where you once had tags.

I.
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Jen77
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   Posted 5/6/2008 6:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Ah yea, I've got the tags now. Had a fissure, and then a year or so later I got a fistula an inch or so away from it. That was real fun!! Yikes! When my surgeon went in to fix the fistula he also fixed the fissure. I leave the skin tags alone, I've heard it's quite painful to have them removed.
~Jennifer
 
Diagnosed with Crohn's Disease 2/06 after sever GI bleed. Has been suffering since 1998. History of rectal fistula and gallbladder removal. Currently taking Predisone 40mg, and Asacol.


Chronicallyill
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   Posted 5/17/2008 7:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Yikes this doesn't sound very promising for me. I just want to me normal down there. I get so frustrated because I'm always self concious about my butt. I hate when it bleeds because then I worry about it going through my pants. EMBARRASING. I'm most self concious around my BF. I just don't feel sexy at all. I feel bad about that because it has effected our sex life a lot. It doesn't help that I just had a baby. I feel like thats never going to heal. I know my BF know what it looks like down there and he's seen the tag, because he watched the whole birth. Koodos to him, because he's a queasy man. I just still don't feel comfortable with it. I would rather have sex in the dark so he won't have to see anything. I also worry about it bleeding during and then seeing that after. Does anyone else go through this. GRRRRRR. I just want it gone. It also effects my mobility because it gets wet and uncomfortable. So I tend to sit on my couch a lot rather than go for walks or exercise. I end up with rashes because the moistness irritates it. Some days are alright but others I just want to scream. Sorry I don't want to be to open, but Iv'e never talked to anyone about this before. I'm very shy about it. Well hope to hear some similar stories. Thanks :)
Age:22/6"1'/138lb - Diagnosed: 2001 @ age 15 now 22
First time mom as of March 8th 2008
Past drugs: Pentasa, Flagyl, Budesonide, Prednisone, tons of Antibiotics, Didrocal
Past herbal remedies and vitamins:Probiotics, Omega 3&6, Prenatal vitamins, B12, Calcium, iron, vit C, vit D, vit E, Selenium, mineral drops
Current drugs: Valtrex, Warfarin, Prednisone :(, 6mp :( NOT WORKING
Problems:Fissure and Tags on rectum, blood clots, ChronicUTI's, Osteopenia, Ulcers in my decending Colon
No surgeries....yet. Gone through 5 G.I.'s
Procedures: 3 colonoscopies, 1 upper endoscopy, 2 barium swallows, 1 biopsy of the fissure and tag (chron's affected)


Riss
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   Posted 5/17/2008 7:28 PM (GMT -7)   

Hey There,

I have experience with fissures and skin tags.  I've had mine for about 5 years now, though I was only just diagnosed with CD a couple weeks ago.  The 2 fissures I had are actually just healing up now and I think it's from the medicine I was and am taking (Canasa & Pentasa).  about 3 years ago I did receive a botox injection and that did help ease a lot of the pain for a couple months...and they probably would have healed then if I followed up with more injections like I was supposed to - but I was in college out of state at the time living a busy life not thinking much about it.  Unfortunately, I've been told that the skin tags don't go away unless they are removed and it's not recommended to remove them - it's likely they will just reform.  I'm 24 and really self-concious about my bum as well!  I know how you feel...I wish it could just look like a normal butt.  I'm going to inquire more with my doctor about the tags, so if I find out anything more, I'll let you know!  Take care.

Riss

24-F Los Angeles, Dx w/ CD 4/28/08, currently taking 2000 mg of Pentasa/day.


pb4
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   Posted 5/17/2008 10:33 PM (GMT -7)   
It's really bizzare because like I said before my disease started with perianal crohns skin tags, and that was when I was in my teens...at that time they did come and go all on their own...another reason why they were misDX as hemmies plus I had absolutely no other symptoms of CD...I had my colon and rectom surgeon tell me that (as I experianced) they can come and go on their own, but sometimes and for some people they come and never go...he said that likely the only reason mine stopped going (shrinking back down to nothing) is because when they were mistaken for hemmies and I had hemhoroid surgery done on them (they were banded) that interfered with them shrinking back down...also with my disease becomming active internally I would have neede rectal/anal meds like cortifoam to help them shrink back down (unlike before when they did it on their own) and at that point (when shrunk back down and tiny) they could have been snipped off right in the office with local freezing...I missed the boat on that though because of that stupid surgery (getting them banded) which is NOT ever suppose to be done on them for the obvious reason that it keeps them in a flare when you have them banded while they are flaring (large and hard)...sucky for me but what can you do.

I wish I could get them lasered off but I don't think that's an option either.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


wednesday77
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   Posted 5/19/2008 10:21 PM (GMT -7)   

I have skin tags and when I am in a flare they are swollen and hard and very painful.  i also have a fissure that makes everything a hundred times worse.

I have had the skin tag since I was a teenager (it has seemed to split and turn into 3 tags now that are connected, has that happened to anyone?) and they thought it was a hemmoroid - I almost had it banded and removed - thank goodness I didn't, they strongly recommend against removal of perianal skin tags in Crohn's patients since the area does not heal well.  Trust me, I would love to have it gone but am not willing to take that chance.

One thing that helped me immensely is getting a soft donut to sit on in my chair 9at home only or in the car, I am not at the point where I would ever take that out in public, lol) and also a soft squishy donut for the toilet seat - it REALLY makes a difference on how your weight is distributed and takes the pressure off your anal area.

Good luck!


Chronicallyill
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Total Posts : 195
   Posted 5/20/2008 6:29 PM (GMT -7)   
So I guess there is no hope for us with broken bums :). So frustrated with it. What do you guys find works the best? I find I can get the fissure induer control but the tag gets really bad. It parts in to 3 different tags as well. Sometimes when I feel better it reduces in size. Has anyone out there had theirs heal up naturally? What kind of things help the tags?

Age:22/6"1'/138lb - Diagnosed: 2001 @ age 15 now 22
First time mom as of March 8th 2008
Past drugs: Pentasa, Flagyl, Budesonide, Prednisone, tons of Antibiotics, Didrocal
Past herbal remedies and vitamins:Probiotics, Omega 3&6, Prenatal vitamins, B12, Calcium, iron, vit C, vit D, vit E, Selenium, mineral drops
Current drugs: Valtrex, Warfarin, Prednisone :(, 6mp :( NOT WORKING
Problems:Fissure and Tags on rectum, blood clots, ChronicUTI's, Osteopenia, Ulcers in my decending Colon
No surgeries....yet. Gone through 5 G.I.'s
Procedures: 3 colonoscopies, 1 upper endoscopy, 2 barium swallows, 1 biopsy of the fissure and tag (chron's affected)


pb4
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   Posted 5/20/2008 7:36 PM (GMT -7)   

If you guys look at the second set of pics (of perianal crohns skin tags) below the pics of hemmies, you'll see that them looking like they split is the typical look of them, it's what they look like, which differs from a hemmie, and a trained eye is suppose to know the difference, not like the bimbo that saw mine and said they were hemmies and banded them which has caused mine to never shrink down again and instead remain in a flare (large and hard) which another colon and rectom surgeon warned me that because of this "mistake" my chances of ever being in full remission was next to nothing...17 yrs later, and he was right.

 

Here's the link with the pics

http://www.emedmag.com/html/pre/fea/features/011504.asp

:)



My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)

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