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FitzyK23
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   Posted 5/10/2008 9:41 AM (GMT -7)   
There is a post on the UC board about the "right" way to use the toilet...
 
I happened to mention the squat holes in Asia.
 
Someone posted this link http://www.naturesplatform.com/health_benefits.html which suggests that the modern toilet may be partly to blame for the influx in IBD.  It would explain why 1st world countries and Western countries have a greater rate of the disease while Asian countries and third world countries (that still squat) have less.
 
I'm not saying I am going to rush out and buy this product but I thought that the information was interesting to say the least.
26 Year old married female law student.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid.  For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn.  I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13.  I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium.  Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I alos take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.
 
 


CrohnieToo
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   Posted 5/10/2008 11:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes, it was an interesting read. Thanks. I'm not likely to run out and buy one either but ... its always interesting when info is presented in an easy to understand format what some consider being the contributing factor to the development of Crohn's.
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sjkly
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   Posted 5/10/2008 2:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Very interesting.

belleenstein
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   Posted 5/10/2008 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I haven't seen this, but let me guess -- squat right? Geez, anyone who's had a baby can figure this one out. It's called gravity. Instead of spending big bucks for this product, why not just squat regularly and develop those muscles. Think of how many times in each day we bend over. Now imagine if instead we were to squat . Maybe our C-section rates would go down and we'd reverse the trend in in the incidence of IBD.
Belleenstein:

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Sara14
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   Posted 5/10/2008 5:10 PM (GMT -7)   
belleenstein: It seems the author of the Web site linked to above is saying the benefit lies in squatting while having a BM, b/c it allows for easier elimination of all the waste products, among other reasons. It doesn't have anything to do with developing the muscles used when squatting regularly, as far as I can tell from that site.
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Crohn'snme
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   Posted 5/10/2008 7:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Very interesting.  Wished I hadn't had 5 knee surgeries and still bad knees because it sounds like it's worth a try.  By exploring possibilities we will find the answer.  Thanks for sharing.

belleenstein
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   Posted 5/10/2008 7:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't have any problem eliminating all of my waste products. Just wish I didn't eliminate them so fast.
Belleenstein:

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FitzyK23
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   Posted 5/10/2008 9:11 PM (GMT -7)   
But, did you/we eliminate fully before we got CD?
26 Year old married female law student.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid.  For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn.  I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13.  I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium.  Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I alos take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.
 
 


Sarita
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   Posted 5/10/2008 11:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I have to confess I didn't read the article but I'm guessing it has something to do with encouraging/enabling the Valsalva maneuver to be more "natural." Yes, squatting will make it easier for most people :)
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dunny2
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   Posted 5/11/2008 6:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Sorry, I sit here grinning with a stupid mental picture of us all squatting. I will say, when I've been caught out, and
had to squat, without going into great detail, control of aim, especially with the explosive kind, were some what of an
issue......
Vicky

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pb4
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   Posted 5/11/2008 10:04 AM (GMT -7)   
FitzyK23 said...
But, did you/we eliminate fully before we got CD?

I know I did before I got sick...you never really completely evacuate everything in a day, generally whatever you ate 3 days ago will make it's final appearance by today...of course it can vary from person to person but for a healthy person this is considered the typical time frame of what you eat today will be completely eliminated by about 3 days from now...of course, we eat daily so that's why we basically always have something in us making it's natural way through the digestive tract and out.
 
I miss going only once a day, everyday, with total bowel control (this was "normal" for me)...I would so love to have that back again but don't see it happening for me unless they find an actual cure.
 
 
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broomhilda
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   Posted 5/12/2008 8:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Ditto Dunny! Try it on a rain soaked clay hill in the roadside woods in high hill boots. Was squating so long my legs went numb! Needless to say when I stood up I though I was going to eat dirt among other things! Not a fun experience! Did manage to keep the pant legs clean but the butt was at sub zero!
Dx'd Jan'06, 1st Resection 7/06, Predinsone, Humira, Imuran, B12 injections, Nexium. Secondary conditions: Psorasis, Acne, Fatigue, Joint Pain, Lactose Intolerant, gallstones, fibroid cysts, peri-menopausal.

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