Are there any complications to the kidneys from Crohn's?

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Illy
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   Posted 5/22/2008 11:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Not side effects of medicine, but from the inflammation?
 
I get pains in the kidney area, and wonder if something's going on.  My doctor gave me kidney fn blood tests and it seems normal.

georgialady
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   Posted 5/22/2008 11:21 PM (GMT -7)   
crohns can go to any organ i have been told''but'' the only time i hurt in the kidney area the doctor
put me on an antobic a strong one for 2 weeks--things then got okay--hope you feel better real soon-

Jess333
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   Posted 5/22/2008 11:31 PM (GMT -7)   
I get a burning sensation in my kidney, like a hot fire-poker. Told my Dr. and he said it was probably related to the CD but he did not seem worried about it at all.
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Illini
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   Posted 5/23/2008 5:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Sometimes people with Crohn's can get amyloidosis in the kidney. Also the 5-ASA's can cause kidney damage. Did you also have a urinalysis with a urine culture to make sure you don't have an infection?


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   Posted 5/23/2008 6:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Kidney stones are relatively common in people with Crohn's, so I guess that's another possibility.

Illy
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   Posted 5/23/2008 7:58 AM (GMT -7)   

Illini,  that's a good idea.  I didn't have a test for an infection, but I've had burning down there that comes and goes for years and I usually tested neg. for a uti, so I just stopped getting the tests.  they just figure it's the cd. So now, the burning comes and goes the same as before, but now I get these pains where my kidneys are.  the same kind of sharp come and go pains I get in my ileum.

I paused the 5asa until I can get to a dr who will regularly test me for any neg. side effects.  it wasn't that helpful anyway.

now I'm worried that because I'm not taking it, damage could be building up in my kidneys from the inflammation.

I hope it's not kidney stones, I had a friend with them and they were excessively painful.  my pain is worse on days when I don't drink enough water.  I guess it could be the beginning of some tiny stones?


Illini
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   Posted 5/23/2008 8:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Kidney stones are a reasonable explanation, because when you expel them in the urine it can be painful. In terms of the bladder pain, another possibility is interstitial cystitis, which does sometimes show up in people with Crohn's. Do you have a primary doc that might get you a consulation with a specialist or order additional tests? At least to calm whatever fears you might have. I think if there was significant damage going on, you ought to see something in the urine tests, whether blood, white blood cells, or protein. Good luck figuring it out.


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Illy
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   Posted 5/23/2008 12:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I have an appt to see a new gp next week.  I'll get a full workup.  thanks for the advice!

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   Posted 5/29/2008 4:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Pain or burning sensation in the kidneys could be a sign of something really serious. Tell your doctor to get a proper examination at a hospital.
Those were the two signs I had last year and I needed a surgery and lost a kidney.

Illy
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   Posted 5/29/2008 5:01 AM (GMT -7)   
OMG!  Sorry to hear that!  the pain has either gone or is so overshadowed by abdominal pain I don't feel it.  But I went to get a urinalysis and an ultrasound.  what other tests did they do at the hospital?

teaspoon
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   Posted 5/29/2008 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   
First they did an ultrasound. Then some urinanalysis. So a cat scan and an MR. They found the tumor by doing the ultrasound. The other tests were just follow-ups to confirm the ultrasound. I had RCC, and had a surgery in april last year. I've then had a terrible immune system for 10 years, due to Crohns. So now remember that some burning sensation often is felt when we have acid problems, pain in the abdominal area, ulcus in the intestines and so on. Don't worry now. What I ment to say in the last post was: if anyone has burning sensations and or pain in their kidney area, don't accept it, or deny it, go to a specialist, get an examination exact as you did. Better safe than sorry. Good luck, I am sure you don't have to worry.

Illy
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   Posted 5/29/2008 11:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the info.  I have no kidney pain today, but you scared me enough to get the doctor to do his GP best.

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   Posted 5/29/2008 1:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Illy,

Jumped over here from the UC forum......I got kidney disease from taking 5ASA's, one way you can tell if you have Minimal Change Disease is that your urine is frothy and you have swelling in your feet/ankles. Sounds like they are going to check for proteins in your urine anyway.

hoping for the best for you!
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Prednisone 5mg 1xday (tapered from 60 = ), Simvastatin 20mg 1xday, Diovan 160mg 2xday. Enalapril 20mg 1xday, Fosomax 70mg 1xweek. MCD may be from hypersensitivty to 5ASA drugs.  Do you have edema? If so, check your blood protien level!
 


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   Posted 5/29/2008 1:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Urinary Tract Infections are easy to get, particularly for females and particularly for females who have Crohn's with D. If left untreated, the UTI will spread to the bladder causing a Bladder Infection. If that, too, is left untreated the infection will spread to the kidneys causing Kidney Infection. I would go have a Urinalysis to check about a possible infection.
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Illy
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   Posted 5/29/2008 1:49 PM (GMT -7)   

Beth75, thanks for the warning.  I know it's not likely but I have to be aware of all possibilities.

I have to call the doctor's office to get results from yesterday's urinalysis.  OMG, now there's MCD!  I already have very low blood albumin, though from what I've read that's an early Crohn's symptom.  One that my other GP shrugged off for years.

When you get MCD from 5ASA, how is it usually found?  Urinalysis?  I don't want to start the 5ASA with regularity until I get a baseline test for my kidneys and liver, but no one will do it until I find a new GI.  So I guess I need regular urinalysis to make sure the 5ASA is not damaging my kidneys?

In the meantime, everyone's saying I should just take the 5ASA asap.  But with the hair loss, the lack of monitoring, the risks, the general ickiness of it and the fact that it didn't help in the short term, I am just hanging in with dietary changes for now.

 

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