Looking for the best nutritional drink for CD

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redspot321
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   Posted 6/2/2008 5:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Im feeling pretty good right now and have been back to the gym over the past week. I would like to find a nutritional supplement like Boost, Ensure, etc that has protien and calories but is not loaded with sugar. Are there some better than others? I know they all contain some sort of sugar, but i think 1 a day before working out is not terrible if thats the only sugar Im going to have. These drinks are also loaded with vitimans.
29 YO Male
 
-CD diagnosed in 2005 illieum
-63cm bowel resection in Feb 08
-Steroid dependant following surgery
- LDN Naltrexone started May 08 been a happy man since!!


EMom
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   Posted 6/2/2008 6:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Try one of the semi-elemental formulas that are sweetened with fructose... More easily digested. Also lactose/dairy free. My son says it "feels better in his stomach". We used Crohn's Clear Elemental Shake (ordered online, comes in a plastic container like all the powdered protein drinks for body building), but there are others. Writer probably knows some other brands!! Writer are you out there?

Another thought if you're not sensitive to casein (milk protein) is to make the SCD legal yogurt (no lactose) and make smoothies in a blender. We make at least one every day now. Here's the ingredients we use: 1 cup SCD yogurt, 1/4 cup organic orange juice, 2 tbsp. honey, tiny bit of stevia, 1 or 2 bananas, 1/2 tsp. vanilla (sugar/hfcorn syrup free), splash of flax seed oil, ice and sometimes a raw egg. Of course, we vary the recipe with other fruits like strawberries and blueberries.

Good luck! So glad you are doing so well!!!
EMom
Mother to 16 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Weaning off Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September. Gradually learning/using more SCD recipes, too! (cooking challenged)


chroniemomx2
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   Posted 6/2/2008 6:42 AM (GMT -7)   
I like Muscle Milk. They also have a muscle milk light.  I have also used the EAS drinks.  I tolerate both of these well.

EMom
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   Posted 6/2/2008 9:40 AM (GMT -7)   
I found it! I knew I'd written it down somewhere! Someone on the ldn group recommended Metagenics Ultrainflamx recently. They said the chocolate orange was the only flavor they liked. Here's the link:

http://www.metagenics.com/tlc_programs/inflammation.asp

Like the CC that I mentioned before, this has beneficial stuff like L-glutamine, and is designed specifically for folks with IBD. I couldn't find what it's sweetened with. If you can't, call the company and ask. I did that with the CC--that's how I know it's fructose. That info was not on their website or the product label. I also don't see what the protein source is. Some people have issues with whey protein....
EMom
Mother to 16 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Weaning off Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September. Gradually learning/using more SCD recipes, too! (cooking challenged)


redspot321
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   Posted 6/2/2008 10:35 AM (GMT -7)   
EMom said...
I found it! I knew I'd written it down somewhere! Someone on the ldn group recommended Metagenics Ultrainflamx recently. They said the chocolate orange was the only flavor they liked. Here's the link:

http://www.metagenics.com/tlc_programs/inflammation.asp

Like the CC that I mentioned before, this has beneficial stuff like L-glutamine, and is designed specifically for folks with IBD. I couldn't find what it's sweetened with. If you can't, call the company and ask. I did that with the CC--that's how I know it's fructose. That info was not on their website or the product label. I also don't see what the protein source is. Some people have issues with whey protein....

Awesome!
29 YO Male
 
-CD diagnosed in 2005 illieum
-63cm bowel resection in Feb 08
-Steroid dependant following surgery
- LDN Naltrexone started May 08 been a happy man since!!


gumby44
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   Posted 6/2/2008 1:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Watch it with the raw eggs. I had Salmonella and that combined with Crohn's was truly a challenge. It took me about 5 months to recover!!!
49 yr. old female, diagnosed with Crohn's in small intestine and terminal ileum Sept-Oct. 2007. Also have IBS, and had Salmonella Dec. '07
currently taking Pentasa- 8 250mg pills per day, Cipro 1 week/month, Metamucil, probiotics


Veronica Ballerina
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   Posted 6/2/2008 2:08 PM (GMT -7)   
There is also the Glucerna is for Diabetes so is Sugar free. Take a Look at.

http://glucerna.com/product/shakes.aspx
Veronica Nunes - 27 years - Brazil


songstress
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   Posted 6/2/2008 2:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I drink Gochi..its a nutritional drink..no proven effects on Crohns but it does give you energy and has proven studies out to prove it boost the immune system

Anyone can give up, it's the easiest thing in the world to do. But to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart, that's true strength

Diagnosed with severe Crohn's colitis in May 2005. I deal with daily arthritis ALL over my body, cystic acne, & fibromyaglia. Have taken Imuran, Remicade, TPN, Colozal, Entocort, Flagyl, PamineForte, Cipro, Dicyclomine, Prednisone, Asacol, Prevacid, and the list goes on. Currently on Remicade every 4wks, 20mg Pred, Asacol, 75mg Imuran, etc.


redspot321
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   Posted 6/2/2008 2:52 PM (GMT -7)   
What about just plain Whey protein? like the stuff for body builders?


Supplement Facts
Serving Size 1 LEVEL SCOOP
Servings Per Container 76

Amount Per
Serving % Daily
Value

Calories 100 N/A*

Calories From Fat 20 N/A*

Total Fat 2 Gm N/A*

Saturated Fat 1 Gm N/A*

Cholesterol 60 Mg N/A*

Total Carbohydrate 3 Gm N/A*

Dietary Fiber 0.5 Gm N/A*

Sugar 2 Gm N/A*

Protein 18 Gm N/A*

Thiamin (As Thiamin Mononitrate) 1.45 Mg N/A*

Riboflavin 1.72 Mg N/A*

Vitamin B6 (As Pyridoxine) 1.75 Mg 88%

Vitamin B12 (As Cyanocobalamin) 2.38 Mcg N/A*

Pantothenic Acid (As Ca Pantothenate) 8.73 Mg N/A*

CALCIUM (FROM WHEY) 230 Mg N/A*

PHOSPHORUS (FROM WHEY CALCIUM) 154 Mg N/A*

Magnesium (As Mg Aspartate, Oxide) 120 Mg N/A*

Zinc (As Zn Aspartate) 5.6 Mg N/A*

Sodium 75 Mg N/A*

Potassium 170 Mg N/A*

DESIGNER WHEY(R) FULL SPECTRUM WHEY PEPTIDES (DELIVERY PROPRIETARY BLEND 23.29G (WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE, HYDROLYZED WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, L-GLUTAMINE, TAURINE, L-LEUC 0 N/A*
29 YO Male
 
-CD diagnosed in 2005 illieum
-63cm bowel resection in Feb 08
-Steroid dependant following surgery
- LDN Naltrexone started May 08 been a happy man since!!


EMom
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   Posted 6/2/2008 3:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, red, I'm no expert here but here's what Elaine says about whey:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/whey_isolate.htm

That's kinda scary, huh? So if I understand correctly, whey contains lactose, this is why it's not so good for Crohnies....

Soy protein would be against Dr. McCandless' protocol...eyes

Here's the CC list of ingredients. If you decide to get this, it's cheaper on other sites and you don't have to order the supplements along with the drink.

http://www.crohnsclear.biz/crohnsclear-ingredients.cfm

When you read the explanation of why they use the ingredients they do, it sure sounds like a good choice. It doesn't taste that great, but neither do the body builder drinks, in my opinion. You could always try the whey protein and see how it sets, though!
EMom
Mother to 16 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Weaning off Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September. Gradually learning/using more SCD recipes, too! (cooking challenged)


redspot321
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   Posted 6/2/2008 4:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Hmmm ... Doesnt sound good, but dosent sound like its harmful either. Just inferior.

Seems like ALL of the shakes have whey or soy protien...
29 YO Male
 
-CD diagnosed in 2005 illieum
-63cm bowel resection in Feb 08
-Steroid dependant following surgery
- LDN Naltrexone started May 08 been a happy man since!!


ivy6
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   Posted 6/2/2008 10:25 PM (GMT -7)   
EMom, isn't there research that suggests that fructose is bad for Crohn's?
Co-Moderator Crohn's Forum.


EMom
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   Posted 6/3/2008 5:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Fructose in it's natural form is fruit sugar and is "legal" on the SCD. Here's the way Elaine explains it:

"Monosaccharides (single molecules of glucose, fructose, or galactose) require no splitting by digestive enzymes in order to be absorbed by the body. These are the sugars we rely on in the diet. They include those found in fruits, honey, some vegetables, and in yoghurt. Double sugar molecules (disaccharides: lactose, sucrose, maltose and isomaltose) and starches (polysaccharides) are primarily avoided on the diet."

But since you asked, I decided to look it up in their database... Elaine did not trust fructose in its powdered or liquid (processed) form. She said in many cases trisaccharides were added by the manufacturer making it hard to digest and consequently hard on the liver.

Can't win.

Redspot, I have seen egg and rice based protein drinks, but they're not as common.

I'm stickin' with yogurt smoothies...

But I will add that when my son needed it, he tolerated the CC product much, much better than Boost, Ensure or one of the body building drinks. Our pediatric GI agreed it was a far better choice... Maybe these manufactures have figured out a way to use fructose correctly... Hopefully, since they're marketing it specifically for folks with IBD.
EMom
Mother to 16 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Weaning off Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September. Gradually learning/using more SCD recipes, too! (cooking challenged)


medchrt1
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   Posted 6/3/2008 5:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes. as you stated in your original question that some sugar is "not terrible". No doubt glucose is the basic form of molecule from carbs that is passing through the intestine. I think we are over analyzing the double glucose. I think the sugar is getting attention because if you believe in the leaky gut as a result of or related to a yeast problem, then feeding the bad flora with sugar is why sugar should be scorned.

Lammy
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   Posted 6/4/2008 3:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I've been visiting the Crohn's Clear site to order the elemental shake and the keep giving the message that they are out of stock. Any other ideas?

EMom
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   Posted 6/4/2008 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Lammy said...
I've been visiting the Crohn's Clear site to order the elemental shake and the keep giving the message that they are out of stock. Any other ideas?


Hi Lammy, welcome to the forum! Yes, I ordered them from another place before...like maybe evitamins.com? Try googling it and see what distributors come up. Evitamins is what I recall. If all else fails, that other brand looks very similar--Metagenics Ultrainflamx. Good luck!
EMom
Mother to 16 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Weaning off Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September. Gradually learning/using more SCD recipes, too! (cooking challenged)


medchrt1
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   Posted 6/4/2008 4:23 PM (GMT -7)   
of the three food groups protein, carbohydrates (sugar/ starches), lipids (fats)
...each has its fundamental forms: protein has the amino acids, carbs has the glucose, and lipid fat has the triglyceride...a nutritional drink will likely have all of these included, i.e. balanced. the premise of the question has requested low carb: higher in protein and fat and lower in the sugar is the result of the request.
Since the bowel is damaged from crohns there is no single drink that will apply to crohns patients. only you can choose to restrict a particular group and then research tofind the drink that applies:
High glucose sugar such as basic apple juice, or super high sugar something like a monster brand (although monster provides several choices) one being low carb.
A protein drink : (amino acid) based drink, has choices in the types of amino acids, usually the discussion flows towards the tryptophan amino acid because the milk culprit casein, but some as posted are ok with it. There are 10 (essential)amino acids that must be injested so theres a lot of amino acid choices and you need to check which amino acids are included.
And finally a fat drink such as a MGT (medium chain glyceride) has also been recommended for crohns. Nutritional drinks simply mix these 3 types of drinks together. sometimes throwin in fiber. and of course many vitamins and minerals. its your choice to research which food group causes less problems. Keep in mind electrolytes , (salt) K, Ca, Na, influence (as well as minerals) whether the food group will cross the bowel lining.
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