Pain and bubbling almost always on the LEFT side? Why?

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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 6/12/2008 8:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi all,

I’m just wondering whether anyone knows which part of the intestine/bowel is located specifically on the LEFT hand side of your abdomen. Whenever I get into the shower and my stomach goes under the hot water, I get a strong pain in my left side. And I also experience intense burning and pain which is almost unbearable in the early mornings and at night after getting up to go to the toilet. The pain is like an intense acid burn and cramping, but almost always graduates to the left. Also, my stomach is constantly bubbling and gurgling, but always on the LEFT side.

Just wondering why it is always on that side and if anyone knows which part of the bowel/intestine is located there because I think mine is having some serious issues at the moment! Hope you are all doing well!

Cheers

Phoebeskye86

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   Posted 6/12/2008 9:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey phoebe, this must be confusing, I have almost always had the right lower quad. However when I first got diagnosed it was in the centre right around the belly button. As Crohns is from the Mouth to Anus, you could have something there. I am on Humira and it is almost symptomatic free. You should go have it checked out. Why stress yourself over something that could be fixed. Take care, hope you get well fast!

bektold
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   Posted 6/12/2008 12:22 PM (GMT -7)   
The far left side would be your descending colon.  My Crohn's effects my large intestine more than my small intestine, and that is frequently where I experience my pain and gurgling.  I'd talk to the doctor about the burning sensation. 

Lady G
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   Posted 6/12/2008 5:31 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm not sure about the shower part, but as for pain, well I have crohns in my ileum which is left sided, but my pain is ALWAYS left sided, same with my dad...sometimes I guess it just happens that way even if your crohns isn't there...and gurgling was something I got just before I got SUPER sick and a bit flaring, and needed a major change of meds. You might wnat to get it checked out if you can, gurgling can lead to bad things sometimes.
27 year old, married. Diagnosed with Crohns at 17, suspected of having for at least a year or so before that.  Alot of Crohns in my family history.  No surgeries yet. Imuran treatment with Prednisone tapering at moment.  Possible Fistula.


Robert P
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   Posted 6/12/2008 6:03 PM (GMT -7)   
While not as good as I was hoping for this is the best of the first dozen or so links that I looked at regarding a picture of the anatomy of the gut:

http://www.surgery.wisc.edu/general/patients/pouch1.shtml

So, bektold is correct in that the descending colon is definitely on the left side. The ileum is actually more on the right side but closer to the mid line of the body than the descending colon. Hope this helps.
Robert

Dx Crohn's 1999; Started Flagyl 6/8/08 (500mg 3/day) in an effort to eliminate a persistent perianal fistula.  Aside from that have been drug free for a long time thanks to a number of lifestyle changes, much of which was learned from the Listen to Your Gut book.

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Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success."
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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 6/12/2008 6:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Phoebe, do you know where your Crohn's is located? Mine is confined to my small intestine. However, the pains and the gurgling, bubbling feeling I've been getting have all been on the left side as well. BUT, I know why.

As Bektold stated, the descending colon pretty much runs up the left side of your body. You have to think of your digestive system from the top down, i.e. from mouth to anus. So the colon STARTS in the lower right quadrant at the ileocecal valve w/the cecum, then the ascending colon running up the right side, the transverse colon running across the body below the stomach, the descending colon running down the left side of the body, the sigmoid colon running across to the center of the body, the rectum running down the center of the body to the anus.

The intestine is kind of like a slinky. That's why and how we can have 20 feet of small intestine packed into our abdominal area. The last 3 feet of the small intestine is what is referred to as the terminal ileum. It is 3 feet if it is stretched out, but of course, it isn't, remember the small intestine is like a slinky.

When my Crohn's first struck, unlike the majority of us, it struck me at the proximal (top) end of the terminal ileum, rather than at or near the ileocecal valve which is the bottom end of the small intestine. I had to have 18 inches of my small intestine resected at and above that area where it first struck. And it is that area that has narrowed since the resection and is causing the pain, gurgling and bubbling sensation on my left side.

Now my narrowing after all these years is almost all scar tissue so I'm not too far away from another resection. You might say I am running out of borrowed time until my next (second) resection. But, hey! I've had a good run ... 20 year remission after that resection and then 10 years of pretty well controlled by medication symptomatic remission. Until just this past year of minor symptoms.

In your case, you most likely have a narrowing in the area on the left where you are experiencing your symptoms, but most likely, depending how long you've had Crohn's and how well its been treated up to now, your narrowing there is inflammation and should respond to an increase or change of meds. Certainly you need to discuss this w/your gastro.

Good luck and God bless!
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.


ivy6
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   Posted 6/12/2008 7:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Phoebe,

I think you have some pretty good advice here, so I won't add more medical chatter.

It sounds as if you're not doing to well there. How are you feeling? Did you manage to get through your exams, and are you coping with your daily life? What are you up to these days?

It's nice to see you again,

I.
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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 6/12/2008 8:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey everyone thanks so much for the replies, I had been trying to research this via the net and the answers you provided with me were a thousand times more useful and accurate!

My Crohn’s is located throughout my whole bowel and intestines, I am 22 and was diagnosed three years ago, and have not had another colonoscopy since … I would be interested to see how the disease has progressed if at all, and how things are standing down there… it’s such a mystery to me, and the disease seems to change so rapidly from week to week! Sometimes the burning is so intense I cannot speak whilst it’s happening and have to just sit it out, at other times the bubbling and gurgling is the most embarrassing thing, and it’s so loud it’s like there is an alien inside my stomach… I am forever wondering what’s happening during these burnings and gurglings… seems it must be mostly affecting my large intestine…

Those diagrams were very useful ChronnieToo; it helps to visualize precisely where things are happening!

ivy6
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   Posted 6/12/2008 8:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Could the burning be related to what you're eating, Phoebe? Are you eating anything spicy?
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*Phoebe*
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   Posted 6/12/2008 9:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Ivy!!!
I managed to get through my final exams and graduated!! Felt very accomplished considering crohn’s decided to appear in my life in my first semester of uni! I was even offered to do an honors degree, but decided I would get into the workforce for a bit before deciding whether or not to write a dissertation… I would really like to go back one day though I miss studying…

I have been working since the start of the year at a law firm as a marketing comms person … but am now looking for a new job. My crohn’s has been pretty good but is unpredictable as always, so I never really know what its going to do. I don’t eat any spicy foods so I don’t know what the burning could be, apart from perhaps an over production of acid? My dad thinks I should go on a low carbohydrate diet because apparently when you eat carbs, your body produced more acid than is necessary, however when you eat protein it only produces the amount necessary to digest the food. And apparently there are studies proving the success of low carb diets on treating crohn’s.I don’t know, it’s all pretty complicated and a big step to go onto a protein based diet!

How have you been Ivy?

CrohnieToo
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   Posted 6/12/2008 10:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Those gurgling sounds are called borborygmi. Interesting word. Its a gurgling, splashing sound normally heard over the large intestine; it is caused by passage of gas thru the liquid contents of the intestine.

Or - where there is extreme narrowing and partial obstruction it can be the gas and liquid trying to pass thru that narrow little opening in the small intestine as well. I've had it so loud you could hear it across the room. And not just one or two short bouts but on many, prolonged occasions!!!!
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.


lilturbo
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   Posted 6/12/2008 11:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Phoebe,

Whenever I'm having a bad flare (or a flare at all for that matter), my lower left side hurts the most. I hope you feel better soon!

-Emma
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jlove71
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   Posted 6/13/2008 9:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Phoebe, Your description of your pain sounds exactly like mine. The majority of my ulcers are in my descending colon and this seems to be where the centre of most of my pain radiates from. During my fistulotmy( a double no less!!!), the surgeon discovered what he described to be an "ulcer the size of a baseball" right smack dab in the centre of my descending colon, which explained the area of my pain and the prefered path of my fistulas. I have resisted having any further surgeries as I have heard from many of my fellow remecaders that once they start cutting, it's the beggining of the end, as it leads to more surgeries. I live with the pain and fistulas and am banking on humira at this point. I have found that a lower temperature bath helps with the burning(maybe a mental thing, but it seems to help me), and my diet has everything to do with my pain level, unless I'm on a flare through which I grin and bare. The spicier the food, the longer the suffering for me. Dairy also reeks havoc on me, even a nibble of chocolait. As for the gurgling...laying down on my stomache seems to make it go away faster. Hope you find what works best for you, and that your feeling better soon.

First major symptoms in '96, horseshoe fistula's and severe abdominal pain with BD shortly after. Diagnosed with Crohn's in 2001. Double fistulectomy in '02. Too many cut, drain and packs to mention.
Began Remecade in late '02, 5 vials every 4 weeks. 500mg Cipro twice daily, and 250mg Flagyl 3 times daily.


CrohnieToo
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   Posted 6/13/2008 11:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Gas pain stretching the width of the intestine can often be relief by laying on your elbows and knees w/your butt up in the air for a while, then laying on your side, one leg stretch out, the other curled up, then back w/your butt in the air and maybe some time on your other side, and back to butt up in the air.
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.


tangreen33
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   Posted 8/26/2012 6:43 PM (GMT -7)   
All of your symptoms sound like mine. I have not went through all the testing yet just in the very beginning of stages for this. Could anything be found just by doing an ultra sound? That was the first step suggested by my doctor.

nawlinscate
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   Posted 8/26/2012 9:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Like you, all of my pain, gurgling, etc., is always in the lower left quadrant. My disease is in the terminal ileum, and technically I'm in remission. But I still have symptoms almost exactly like yours, as a result of my shortened intestine and removal of my gallbladder. The discomfort is pretty constant, and it's never ever occurred on the lower right side.

Singingsupernurse
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   Posted 8/27/2012 1:59 AM (GMT -7)   
The left sided pain is new for me too. I try NOT to eat if I can help it.The pain was so bad over the weekend all I could do was cry...couldn't breathe. My husband is worried about a bowel obstruction b/c I take 6 to 8 immodium a day. I have to, I work as a nurse in a busy clinic, no time for bathroom breaks or accidents. I really hate this.....
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