fruits and veggies...tips please!

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closure
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   Posted 9/1/2008 1:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I haven't posted in a while in here. I'm still without a diagnosis so I feel kind of silly posting somewhere for a condition I probably don't even have, but you guys are always so helpful and are usually going through the same symptoms I am.
 
Here's my question now...
 
How do you guys handle fruits and vegetables? They could be fresh, raw, canned, cooked, any way you can think of lol. I have a horrible time with raw fruits and veggies and I'm even having trouble with some cooked veggies. I don't know what to do. I definitely need a multivitamin I've realized because I know I'm not getting the nutrients I need by avoiding most fruits and veggies and then the usual diarrhea I have. Do any of you have this problem or have had this problem? What did you guys do to be able to eat these things if they were a problem for you. I'm looking for any tips or suggestions! I'm even considering trying baby food. Are there "safe" fruits and veggies I could try that maybe I haven't thought of?
 
Help!
 
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27 female
 
Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, and in the process of being diagnosed with either crohns, colitis, or even lupus...who knows really! the docs sure don't lol. Now possibly even celiacs disease!Lots of tests coming up so hopefully I'll know more soon. Too many meds to list!


sjkly
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   Posted 9/1/2008 2:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't have a problem with cooked veges so others will be of more help there.
I eat bananas, berries and canned fruit with no problems. Apples and sometimes pears are sometimes complicated for me.

CrohnnieMan
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   Posted 9/1/2008 2:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I would like to hear what everyone has to say as well.

I have never really been one to eat any vegetables (besides green beans) and have the occasional orange, apple or cantaloupe. None of those seem to bother me too much at least when I'm not having a flare.

I just recently started vitamins back up earlier this week. I take one Centrum Performance with my breakfast. The performance stands means it has Ginseng, Ginkgo and five B vitamins. Which I can definitely use when feeling a bit tired during the day. (didn't mean to make it sound like a commercial, lol).

Keeper
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   Posted 9/1/2008 2:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Have a look at the sequence of permissible foods on the SCD plan. It shows which foods can be tolerated best and which ones can be gradually introduced. See: http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#beyond and scroll down to the charts.

lilturbo
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   Posted 9/1/2008 3:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Closure!

I steam all of my veggies but have found that I still can't really tolerate steamed spinach. I totally can't handle raw lettuce or spinach.

I also juice veggies and fruits so I can try and get all of their nutritional benefits. Juicing ginger helps when you feel a cold coming on =)

When I'm in remission I eat strawberries, cantaloupe, and watermelon but totally stay away from them when flaring. I don't really eat anything from the fruit family raw besides those three things. Actually I stay away from all forms of fruits and veggies when flaring.

Take care of yourself and keep us updated!!

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LMills
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   Posted 9/1/2008 5:21 PM (GMT -7)   
So far I've been able to handle peaches with the skin peeled. That's about as much as I've ventured concerning fruit. As for vegetables, I can eat them if they're mush like ones that come in cans--green beans, peas, etc. and then vegetables that come in canned soup.
I'm still trying to figure what I can and cannot have as well to be honest. But basically, mush.
20 years old, Diagnosed with severe Crohn's and colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone, pentasa, alinia, bentyl, prilosec, tandem plus, and the occasional ultracet
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy(very possibly due to Crohn's inflammation) in July of 2008.
Due to start Imuran September 17 depending on blood results.


kcgh03
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   Posted 9/1/2008 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Veggies bother me more than fruit....my biggest no no is corn on the cob. Regular frozen corn doesnt hit me to bad but if I eat it off the cob I am in trouble! LOL Oh and onions....big no no on onions!!!!!

I juice my veggies. I have come up with some GREAT juice combinations! A friend of mine got me into juicing and now we both swear by it, it defiantely gives me a boost of energy when I need it most!

gachrons
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   Posted 9/1/2008 5:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi I eat bananas mostly
apple sauce
cooked apple pie and cherry
veggies: cooked to soft, carrots
carrots and peas canned ,potatoes well cooked or microwaved
spinach, swiss chard. frozen cauliflower broc. mix with carrots well cooked
The list is not long but it doesn't bother me to eat them. I do not eat them hard or raw and I make sure they are cooked to soft .I also take a multi vitamin and calcium and vit. D plus B-12 shots.I hope you find what works for you I go for the easy to chew easy to digest diet. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


closure
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   Posted 9/1/2008 6:30 PM (GMT -7)   
well I'm glad, but feel bad, that I'm not alone in this lol.

here's what I can handle sometimes...

mashed potatoes, sometimes baked potatoes or baked fries/tater tots, I don't fry those. potatoes are almost always a "safe" food for me
veggies in like vegetable beef soup, not always chicken noodle though because in some kinds they're kind of big
canned green beans
bananas
applesauce
sometimes artichoke heart pieces in like pasta or something like that cooked

my list of worst offenders...

broccoli...cooked, steamed, mixed in with things, especially raw
salad/lettuce! oh my! I have to avoid that like the plague!
spinach, raw or cooked any way you can think of...even little pieces mixed in food...bad results!
cauliflower
corn! I don't believe my stomach even knows how to digest it!
sometimes even peas
onions
raw green/red peppers
breads with seeds or fruits with seeds...I love strawberries though :-(

that's all I can think of now. the one thing a lot of you have mentioned...cooked carrots. I hate cooked carrots! lol. I'll eat them in soups, but by themselves...yuck! so unless I start forcing myself to eat them I don't think they're an option even though they seem to work for some of you. raw carrots I love though...but pay for it later. hate sweet potatoes and yams too.

I was thinking about juicing...maybe Jack Lalane or whatever his name is will become my new best friend/idol.

so looking at my list...is there some great, digestable, won't make you run to the bathroom vegetable/fruit I just have to try? oh and one that won't make me gag from taste? lol...maybe I'm asking for too much.
27 female
 
Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, and in the process of being diagnosed with either crohns, colitis, or even lupus...who knows really! the docs sure don't lol. Now possibly even celiacs disease!Lots of tests coming up so hopefully I'll know more soon. Too many meds to list!


ivy6
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   Posted 9/1/2008 6:38 PM (GMT -7)   
If I'm unsure whether something will work for me, I try a *small* amount and then wait a day or two to see what the effects are. In other words, if you want to try raw carrot, just have a bite or two, not the whole carrot!!

The other thing that works for me is to mash / puree the food, or to add a tiny amount to a dish I already know I can tolerate. For instance, savoury mince is one of my safe foods, but I'm not sure if I can cope with beans, so I've added a very few to the latest batch, just to see if I can cope with them.

If soups work for you, why not try making pureed soup? You may not like sweet potato, but you may be able to disguise it by adding a few small pieces to some pureed pumpkin soup. Spinach may make you ill, but you may tolerate it very well if you make a potato and spinach soup and then puree it.

Variety is important if you're to get all the nutrients you need... and if you're not to be bored silly by eating the same thing day after day after day...

Ivy.
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ivy6
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   Posted 9/1/2008 8:39 PM (GMT -7)   
back again with more thoughts.

It sounds to me as if you could benefit from going on a lower-residue diet, just to give your bowel a rest and stop it from hurting so much every time you eat. Here are some tips:

Breakfast
* low fibre breakfast cereal, eg. corn flakes. No museli or rolled oats! Add milk / soy milk / rice milk if desired. Cooked semolina is also good, if you want something hot.
* stewed PEELED apples or pears. Puree them if you're really having gut trouble. No berries or skins or anything that has little hard bits in it. You might be able to tolerate a peeled pear - try a segment and see.
* white toast, topped with margarine and chopped banana (yum)

Snack
* a banana, or a tub of plain yoghurt (no fruity bits), or a plain biscuit

Lunch
* Sandwich made with white bread, lean white meat or cheese or plain spread, eg margarine or Vegemite
* A soup made with root vegetables, pureed
* Steamed root vegetables and white rice
* boiled eggs and white toast

Snack
* perhaps a smoothie made with a banana and some milk and yoghurt

Dinner
* lean grilled / steamed chicken or fish.
* Steamed or mashed PEELED root vegetables (pumpkin, turnip, swede, perhaps some zucchini)
* perhaps a slice of avocado

Dessert / supper snack (if desired)
* stewed fruit (pureed if needed) with some custard, plain yoghurt or ice cream.
* piece of toast spread with avocado or tomato paste. You might even be able to tolerate hummus, and that would give you some legume vitamins - try a small bit and see, but don't do this if you have uncontrollable d or gas pains.

You can also have fun hiding vegies in cakes, muffins and slices, e.g.:
* carrot and / or zucchini cake
* pumpkin pie
* carrot muffins
* pumpkin scones
* chocolate and apple cake
* chocolate and beetroot cake

And avoid the grainy and fruity bread. Just stick to white until your gut settles.

Also, you can try mint tea, ginger tea, things like that (*in moderation*). And there's always juice, as others have said.

I hope this helps,

Ivy.
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closure
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   Posted 9/1/2008 8:54 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks ivy...that last post has some really good ideas! I should print it off for a reference!

on the subject of hiding veggies in cakes, etc...there's some cookbook out, designed more to trick kids into eating veggies and I've been thinking about buying it for a while now. I can't think of the name of the book, but it's by the comic Jerry Seinfeld's wife.

I really like hummus, but don't know how my tummy would react to it...haven't had it in years.
27 female
 
Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, and in the process of being diagnosed with either crohns, colitis, or even lupus...who knows really! the docs sure don't lol. Now possibly even celiacs disease!Lots of tests coming up so hopefully I'll know more soon. Too many meds to list!


Aerosmithkat
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   Posted 9/1/2008 9:56 PM (GMT -7)   
This is my first flare that i'm aware of, since i never had a problem consuming food before. I actually got a list from a nutritionist that listed foods that can cause diarrhea. It's a low residue diet mainly, and i've been doing really well with that. You could probably google it and get the suggestions online. If those are causing you problems, maybe you could try the juicing route to get the nutrients in? I know when i first started adding veggies in my diet for the nutrients, i made sure to get a lot of lean protein as well. It seemed to keep my stools from getting too loose. I have been adding ginger to my diet recently. It seems to calm my stomach tons! I got these bite sized pieces from the health food store and keep them in my purse. I'd seriously consider the low residue diet, like Ivy suggested. I haven't had any problems as long as i stick with it.

Post Edited (Aerosmithkat) : 9/1/2008 11:00:40 PM (GMT-6)


flchurchlady
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   Posted 9/1/2008 10:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Fruits ~
* Canned peaches and pears on top of cottage cheese is really good
* Sliced banana on top of white toast with creamy peanut butter and honey is delicious!

Veggies ~
* Baked or mashed potatoes (no skins)
* Avocado
* Steamed zucchini and squash
* Canned green beans

beartooth
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   Posted 9/1/2008 11:26 PM (GMT -7)   
I've never been one to eat many fruits or vegetables. One day I stumbled across a V8 juice called Fusion, and they claim that it contains 2.5 servings of fruits AND 2.5 servings of veggies in every bottle. I tried it, and it didn't upset my stomach like I thought it would. Usually raw fruits or veggies cause some sort of negative reaction in me. I began drinking a bottle of that juice a day. One day someone suggested I get a juicer and make my own juice at home. I've been doing that for a month now, and the homemade juice is much better than the V8. Plus, I put in it what I like (fruits and veggies alike!), and I've been able to find all sorts of great combinations. I'm not suggesting everyone run out and get a juicer, but I do suggest giving f & v juices a try. It might be placebo effect, but I really feel healthier since including f & v in my diet regularly. It hasn't cured any of my ills where my colitis is concerned, but I'm all for anything that helps my general well being.
Brandon
 
Diagnosed w/ moderate UC in May '06, had symptoms for years prior to dx - currently flaring
Suffered from depression since I was 19
Taking Asacol, Florastor, VSL#3, Wellbutrin XL, Prozac, multi-vitamin, and fexofenadine for allergies


ivy6
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   Posted 9/2/2008 1:56 AM (GMT -7)   
For everyone who drinks juice, it might be a good idea to be mindful that there was some Canadian research released a few weeks ago that showed that juices (especially orange, apple and grapefruit) can interfere with the action of certain medications; interfere severely enough that you may as well not have taken the medication at all.

Cipro was one of the drugs named, as were a number of other antibiotics and heart / blood-pressure medications, and a few others. Google "Canadian research juice medications" and you should find more info. Or you could try searching this site: I posted a link to the research a few weeks ago.

Ivy
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ivy6
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   Posted 9/2/2008 1:58 AM (GMT -7)   
ps. Closure, you can also grate up various vegetables and put them in rissoles, meatloaf, things like that.

Another thing I do is grate a half a peeled apple and mix it with my breakfast semolina / porridge. The apple means I don't need to use honey or sugar as a sweetener, and it gives me a serve of fruit as well. And because it's grated into tiny pieces and then mixed with a warm cereal, the fruit is easier to digest.
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athensgirl
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   Posted 9/2/2008 5:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Safe foods for me:
 
- Steamed/baked potatoes
- Steamed zuccini and carrots
- Rice
- White bread
- Steamed/grilled chicken or beef
- Pasta
- White bread
- Cheese
- Eggs
- Bananas
- coffee (only decaf)
- tea
- Ice cream (except chocolate flavour)
 
Forbitten foods:
 
- Fish (except grilled salmon)
- Sausages
- various sauces (ketchup, mustard, mayonnaise etc)
- Lettuce and spinach (could send me to the hospital right away!)
- Corn (comes out undigested)
- Oranges, apples, pears
- Nuts (pop corn will have me in pain for days)
- Tomatoes
- Generally anything with seeds, peals, raw vegetables will give me pain and diarrea
- Soda
- Alcohol
- Milk & Yoghurt
 
Now there are some foods that may not bother me one day, and kill me the next day, e.g.:
 
- Pizza
- Fried food
- Souvlaki (greek food maybe you don't know it)
- cookies
- Chips etc.
- Chocolate
 
Hope that helps.  It's all a matter of trial and error I guess.
 
Christina

beartooth
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   Posted 9/2/2008 7:25 AM (GMT -7)   

Ivy,

Sorry that I forgot to mention that.  I read the article with great interest, and sure enough my fexofenadine is one of the medicines that loses much of its potency when taken with citrus juices.  Because of that, I take the pill first thing when I wake up, and I won't go for the juice for at least an hour.  Something else to be careful of is that fruit juices can also amplify the effects of other drugs.

Thanks for putting the info out there again. 
Brandon
 
Diagnosed w/ moderate UC in May '06, had symptoms for years prior to dx - currently flaring
Suffered from depression since I was 19
Taking Asacol, Florastor, VSL#3, Wellbutrin XL, Prozac, multi-vitamin, and fexofenadine for allergies


petittarte
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   Posted 9/2/2008 10:17 AM (GMT -7)   
I can eat all fruits and veggies without a problem.  I eat apples (skin on), berries, grapes, peaches, nectarines, mellons, cherries, pears, plums, bananas, citrus.  For veggies - leafy greens, cucumbers, peppers, carrots, tomato, onions, celery, mushrooms, heart of palm all eaten raw.  I steam broccoli and cauliflower so it is easier to chew.  I also eat corn, potatoes, squash, brussel sprouts. 

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closure
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   Posted 9/2/2008 2:34 PM (GMT -7)   
well petitarte...just rub it in our faces lol! totally kidding.

athensgirl...your lists sound a lot like mine.
27 female
 
Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, and in the process of being diagnosed with either crohns, colitis, or even lupus...who knows really! the docs sure don't lol. Now possibly even celiacs disease!Lots of tests coming up so hopefully I'll know more soon. Too many meds to list!


bektold
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   Posted 9/2/2008 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   
One caution about juices- they can have a lot of sugar in them, which can increase d.  Start slow.
 
I love mushrooms, and add them to just about everything.  Watermellon and bananas work well for me, but I get tired of bananas fast.  If I'm afraid that my potassium is low I'll have toaster waffles for breakfast and top them with half a banana.  It's a quick work day meal, and I don't get so bored with the banana.  I also make sugar-free jello and add canned fruit to it.  Peaches, fruit cocktail, and mandarin oranges all work for me, but I limit the oranges if I've been feeling rough.
 
I don't like cooked carrots, either, but I've found if I mix them into something else I don't notice them as much.  I buy the bags of shredded carrots in the grocery store, and then pre-cook them a little bit before mixing into a tuna casserole or meat loaf.  Green beans and zuchinni are my stand-bys.

closure
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   Posted 9/2/2008 6:43 PM (GMT -7)   
shredded cooked carrots might not be bad when mixed with stuff...glad I'm hearing some other options from everyone. I also do well with mushrooms...actually just had some tonight mixed in with rice...yummy.
27 female
 
Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, and in the process of being diagnosed with either crohns, colitis, or even lupus...who knows really! the docs sure don't lol. Now possibly even celiacs disease!Lots of tests coming up so hopefully I'll know more soon. Too many meds to list!


LMills
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   Posted 9/3/2008 6:07 AM (GMT -7)   
I was just going to add there's a really great recipe for zucchini pancakes I have lying around somewhere. I think I can post it later..there are a few things you have to substitute of course but the concept itself is absolutely delicious and it makes enough to last a few days. Anyway, off to school off to school..don't want to be late :(
20 years old, Diagnosed with severe Crohn's and colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone, pentasa, alinia, bentyl, prilosec, tandem plus, and the occasional ultracet
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy(very possibly due to Crohn's inflammation) in July of 2008.
Due to start Imuran September 17 depending on blood results.


closure
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   Posted 9/3/2008 1:14 PM (GMT -7)   
can't wait to hear the zucchini pancake recipe. I've recently discovered how much I like zucchini so I'm always looking for new ways to make it.
27 female
 
Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, and in the process of being diagnosed with either crohns, colitis, or even lupus...who knows really! the docs sure don't lol. Now possibly even celiacs disease!Lots of tests coming up so hopefully I'll know more soon. Too many meds to list!

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