Really need help, stabbing pains & green vomit??!!

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lil-momma
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   Posted 9/10/2008 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Sorry for being graphic and I'm sorry that I have been posting in awhile, I have been reading when I can. 
It has been a long summer with no progress.  The Dr's say Sierra needs surgery as prednisone is the only thing that keeps her at bay.  As soon as she goes off, she goes back into a flare and each time is worse.  They say they need to remove a little over a foot at the illeum that is strictured.  They won't schedule surgery since we don't have insurance.  Her Dr told me when she gets bad to take her to the ER as they can't refuse surgery in an emergency regardless of payment.  I don't know where you draw the line?  How do you know it's an "emergency" situation?  I certainly don't want it to go to far either!  I have placed a call to her Dr and am waiting for him to call me back, GRRR -waiting stinks!  She has been having excessive diarreah, some blood and pains but I had to pick her up from school this morning because she says the pains feels like she is being staabbed in the lower abdomen and bentyl is not helping.  She is vomiting and it is green, which started at school.  She doesn't have a fever.  I know you all can't tell me medical advice but it seems as if you all offer more information than the Dr's!!!!! 

Dx w/UC in 2001 - controlled by diet.
Mother to 15 yr old daughter dx w/CD 9/07-  she had surgery for abcesses 11/07.  She is taking multi-vit, iron for anemia, bentyl prn, prilosec 20mg-x2, pentasa  500mg-x5, prednisone 10mg-x6, 6 mp 50mg-x3, Flagyl 250mg-x3


Roxette
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   Posted 9/10/2008 9:23 AM (GMT -7)   
sorry for being ignorant here but im from ireland and dont know too much about how your health system works.
Do you have to have medical insurance to have surgery done over there? i know thats not much help to your problem sorry i was just curious as to how it works over there.
Ill say a prayer for your daughter xx

lil-momma
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   Posted 9/10/2008 9:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Our health care system stinks, in my opinion. You have to have insurance or means to pay a good portion up front and we have neither. We already owe $22,000.00 in medical bills which I make monthly payments on. Of course that doen't include her meds. Thank you for your prayers Roxette!
Dx w/UC in 2001 - controlled by diet.
Mother to 15 yr old daughter dx w/CD 9/07-  she had surgery for abcesses 11/07.  She is taking multi-vit, iron for anemia, bentyl prn, prilosec 20mg-x2, pentasa  500mg-x5, prednisone 10mg-x6, 6 mp 50mg-x3, Flagyl 250mg-x3


Gracie Girl
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   Posted 9/10/2008 10:20 AM (GMT -7)   
You are in a position that no mother should ever in.  I do not know where you live however here in Connecticut all school aged children without health issurance are offered coverage at the beginning of the school year.  I do not know what it exactly covers but it may be a start.  I am sure that you have already asked all of these questions but have you discussed your situation with the school social worker?  She/he may be able to direct you to state run medical programs that may be able to assist you.  Here in Connecticut we have the Husky program which provides health insurance to children of working families pretty much regardless of income.  My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. 

Zanne
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   Posted 9/10/2008 12:40 PM (GMT -7)   
If she is vomitting green, that is probably bile and could be indicitive of a blockage. Especially if her pain has increased.  I hope by now you have gotten a call back from her doctor and he has recommended you take her to the ER.  I can't imagine trying to sit through classes feeling what she must be feeling.  I will be keeping you both in my thoughts and prayers.  I hope she gets some relief soon!!!!!!

Suzanne

CD 19 years offically, 29 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Symptoms constantly but all tests show only minor ulcerations. Currently having multiple episodes of gastritis with no known cause.


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


Nanners
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   Posted 9/10/2008 1:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Zanne it sounds as if she has a least a partial obstruction going on. I think she needs to get to the ER and soon. God Bless and do keep us posted. (((HUGS TO YOU BOTH)))

God Bless,
Gail *Nanners*
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


lil-momma
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   Posted 9/10/2008 1:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, the Dr. called me back.....He said start her on 60mg of prednisone and a clear liquid diet, call him in the morning. He said to call him back if she gets worse or go to the ER. He said the vomit is most likely bile caused from a blockage or the onset of one. She does NOT want to take the prednisone! She just got off it 2 1/2 weeks ago. I don't really know what to do?! Do I follow his instruction or just take my chances by going to the ER? Are they going to do anything different?
Dx w/UC in 2001 - controlled by diet.
Mother to 15 yr old daughter dx w/CD 9/07-  she had surgery for abcesses 11/07.  She is taking multi-vit, iron for anemia, bentyl prn, prilosec 20mg-x2, pentasa  500mg-x5, prednisone 10mg-x6, 6 mp 50mg-x3, Flagyl 250mg-x3


Nanners
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   Posted 9/10/2008 1:29 PM (GMT -7)   
I think you should take her to the ER. If her pain is extreme and she can't hold anything down I really think she needs to go. They will give her pain meds and IV fluids and run tests to see if she is obstructing. If she is then they will make the decision to try to clear it or if necessary do surgery. I will definetly keep you both in my prayers.

The other thought is to try the Pred and see if it gives her any relief. How does she describe the pains? If it comes in waves like labor pains, then more than likely she is obstructing. You can have some D with obstructions. Its the only thing thin enough to pass a obstruction or was already in the bowel past the block.

Good luck!
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


gachrons
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   Posted 9/10/2008 5:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi your daughter is not that old and blockages are very painful . I would be on my way to emerg. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


MAG102886
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   Posted 9/10/2008 5:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Id say you need to be on your way to the ER now. It sounds like my exact story when I first found out I had crohns.  I was sick for so long, and then I started throwing up the stomach bile, and couldnt hold anything down whatsoever. They admitted me into the hospital and 2 days later I had surgery.  Also, about worrying about the insurance issue...I dont know what goes on where you live, but I was recently put in the hospital because of a flare, I had no medical insurance at all, but the hospital had a "free care fund" that they helped me with, and I also got some insurance through welfare, my bills that were well over 60k where completely covered by them, and they gave me free medical insurance for 6 months. Perhaphs look into something like that? I'm not sure what all the guidelines are because your daughter is under age, but it doesnt hurt to look.  And my docotors told me not to worry about money, health is the most important thing....easy for them to say...but I guess it is indeed true.
Dianogsed with Crohns at 16, 21 yrs old now.
Surgeries:1 Bowel Resection, Gallbladder Removed. Another Resection Scheduled for September.
Current Meds: Humira (weekly), 65mg Pred, Levbid, Nexium.


Zanne
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   Posted 9/10/2008 5:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I can't believe a doctor would suspect a blockage in a child and not order you to take her to the ER. I hope you are on your way, or already there. And that you are considering getting a new doctor ASAP. A 60mg dose of prednisone is not going to clear a blockage in a matter of hours or days, and we are talking about a young girl. I've been there and can only imagine the pain she is in. (((((hugs)))))) To you both, and please let us know how she is doing.
Suzanne

CD 19 years offically, 29 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Symptoms constantly but all tests show only minor ulcerations. Currently having multiple episodes of gastritis with no known cause.


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


sammies
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   Posted 9/10/2008 8:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been thinking of you and your daughter. the green bile scares me. Please tell her to take the prednisone to at least begin the relief. Good luck with the ER. She is in my prayers. Keep us updated.
23 years with moderate Crohn's/colitis; fistulizing crohn's; pentasa, just started humira


eva124
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 246
   Posted 9/10/2008 8:10 PM (GMT -7)   
guess we are lucky in nz we dont have to pay for public hospital,its just not very nice there lol
dx 17 aug 2007
21 yrs old
23 dec 2007 resection/temp illeostomy 14 feb 2008 temp illeostomy reversed 
150mg azamun
3000mg pentasa


eva124
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 246
   Posted 9/10/2008 8:12 PM (GMT -7)   
i also think you should take her to the er just in case she gets worse,and puking greeen stuff is wat i did wen i had a blockage
dx 17 aug 2007
21 yrs old
23 dec 2007 resection/temp illeostomy 14 feb 2008 temp illeostomy reversed 
150mg azamun
3000mg pentasa

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