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LMills
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   Posted 9/16/2008 8:25 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been pretty careful as far as diet goes, but lately have been slipping up here and there eating 'just one' swedish fish because oh, it has invert sugar OR that sandwich from the restaurant because it's just chicken(it's never just chicken is it..).
Anyway, I am sitting beside a bag of doritos with some sort of spice on it(cool ranch? Whatever it is they think that is but it definitely isn't ranch).

How often is it that you find yourself slipping up so to speak?
I'm sitting here worried that I've just designated tomorrow as a sick day all for the sake of consumption of a few chips that have no nutritional value and MSG.
I want to reach remission or at least stay on this path to improvement and recovery, but sometimes the feeling normal makes me forget that I need to be careful and so I make the mistake of eating like a normal person.
Just wondering how often this happens to the rest of you or if my will power is just weak at the moment.
I'm blaming part of it on the prednisone..but mostly on my inability to say no to food that I do not need.
20 years old, Diagnosed with severe Crohn's and colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone, pentasa, alinia, bentyl, prilosec, tandem plus, and the occasional ultracet
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy(very possibly due to Crohn's inflammation) in July of 2008.
Due to start Imuran September 17 depending on blood results.


MAG102886
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   Posted 9/16/2008 8:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I do it all the time.  Especially being on such a high does of Prednisone, I find myself waking up at 2am, and saying "Oh, I'll just have one oreo", then one turns into 3, and 3 turns into half the bag.  I like to blame my 30 pound weight gain on the Prednisone, but really, its my own fault...I could be eating healthy...but somehow I justify it in my head as I want to be "normal" and eat what "normal" people eat....well normal people dont eat half a bag of oreos in 15 mins, and still want more.  Blah, its so depressing.

Dianogsed with Crohns at 16, 21 yrs old now.
Surgeries:1 Bowel Resection, Gallbladder Removed. Another Resection Scheduled for September.
Current Meds: Humira (weekly), 60mg Pred, Levbid, Nexium.
 

FitzyK23
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   Posted 9/16/2008 8:45 PM (GMT -7)   
L - I think you need to cut yourself some slack. I don't know how ill you are right now but usually a couple chips wouldn't be enough to throw your whole GI system into a whirl. If you worry too much about it than you surely will be sick. Its ok to have a non-nutritous treat once and awhile. Nobody knows for sure what diet is best for people with crohns. Even on here some found remission with SCD, some with all carb no meat, some with raw foods only, some with low roughage only... there is no "right" way to do it. One could argue that healthier foods are obviously better but I don't think it is always so. I try in general to eat healthy but when I am at my lowest, sometime some nice processed saltines and canned soup settle best. And those healthy organic crackers give me d. So you find what makes YOU feel best. And we have days we feel like crap for no rhyme or reason. Eat one more chip than dump the bag in the trash. I bet even with the pred you won't pick them out of there lol.
26 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


kam#7
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   Posted 9/16/2008 8:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Don't be so hard on yourself! I cannot even begin to count the times that I have eaten things that I KNOW are not good for me. This disease is tough - we need to cut ourselves some slack :-)
35 year old female - Diagnosed w/Crohn's 2002 - Surgery 2004

Currently taking: Pentasa, Entocort, Imuran, Immodium, Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Seroquel


SydneyJo
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   Posted 9/16/2008 9:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Im with Fitzy and Kam a few chips really shouldnt hurt. Im one for not denying myself the food I crave as it really makes no difference to my symptoms anyway. Jo

pb4
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   Posted 9/16/2008 10:55 PM (GMT -7)   
A few chips could hurt if you're lactose intolerant (besides having crohn's) and you're not aware of it...you'd be very surprised at the items out there that contain lactose, many chips (like the doritos), Ichiban soup (the beef flavor for sure) and many many others...read your lables, better yet, get a lactose intolerance test done just to be sure because when you have IBD and/or IBS you very well could be lactose intolerant but the symptoms are easily masked by IBS/IBD...it happend to me...I found out I was severely lactose intolerant and was totally amazed by using lactaid pills before I ate Ichiban soup, chips (when I used to eat that kind of stuff) that it did not bother my gut (cause symptoms) compared to not taking the lactaid pills before hand...it can take the smallest amount of lactose to cause upset if your intolerance is severe enough...

BTW, I no longer have to use lactaid products because ever since starting the Primadophilus Reuteri probiotic every day I no longer have lactose intolerance issues (it states on the packaging that this particular probiotic aid with lactose issues, high cholesterol and for women vaginal health.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


athensgirl
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   Posted 9/17/2008 12:32 AM (GMT -7)   
I ate some doritos myself last Saturday, I went to the cinema with my children, and they were eating doritos, and offered me some, so I ate them.  They were delicious.  Did I pay for it?  Yes!  (big D all night long).  Did I regret it? NO!  I enjoyed every single bite.  I'm human, I desrve to enjoy myself from time to time, I just try not to over-do it!
 
Christina

lamb61
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   Posted 9/17/2008 4:04 AM (GMT -7)   
L.
I was diagnosed 26 years ago and I stil have no will power when it comes to food! My DH will look at me and say "you know you're going to pay for that" and I just grin and say "but it's sooooo good".
 


LMills
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   Posted 9/17/2008 5:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Okay first of all, you guys are great haha..thank you so much for your responses.
I really probably should chill a little bit when it comes to that. Last night was just not a good night because I also happened to have my hospital bills that the insurance WON'T cover lying around, and the dealership my fiance and I just bought a car from(albeit with monthly payments thank god) said something about not accepting some credit or something other. I'm not really sure. So I was just thinking I couldn't really control those other bills, and I'm fine with paying $20/month for the rest of my life on the pregnancy bill, but I know that, to a degree I CAN control certain Crohn's symptoms so that I don't another $13,000 to my debt. I suppose I'm just afraid of ending up at the hospital again too so..
Anyway, I will definitely take what you guys said to heart. They're sentiments I definitely and very strongly already have, but you're like the good conscience on the shoulder. There really is nothing like comfort food sometimes.
And I think I'd really like to ask about the lactose intolerance at the doctor today just to make absolutely sure...and then hunt down that probiotic :)
20 years old, Diagnosed with severe Crohn's and colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone, pentasa, alinia, bentyl, prilosec, tandem plus, and the occasional ultracet
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy(very possibly due to Crohn's inflammation) in July of 2008.
Due to start Imuran September 17 depending on blood results.


Nanners
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   Posted 9/17/2008 6:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I use to cheat way more than I do now, but after alot of bad days becuz of my poor food choices, I do it alot less now. I still do cheat ocasionally, but not like I did before. LMills just fyi, there really isn't a test for lactose intolerance. I found out thru trial and error and some posts from PB4 that I was lactose intolerant. Got that out of my diet and things have improved alot.
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


Persephone767
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   Posted 9/17/2008 8:40 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm with Lamb. We're only human. I've eaten stuff that I know will hurt, but I miss it sooooo much! Popcorn. I avoid the spikey shell, but I can't avoid all of it. I'm not sure how much longer I'll be able to avoid corn on the cob. I live in the midwest, I'm surrounded by corn fields and veggie stands and signs screaming FRESH CORN! Every now and then I'll eat something that accidently sets off my stomach, but usually it's self-induced. And I enjoy every minute of my cheating.
25 years old
Diagonsed in Jan 1997 with Crohn's Disease
Sick since Nov 1995
Diagnosed in June 2005 with Osteoporosis
Current Meds: Humira pen every other week
                    Methotrexate 25mg every week
                    Folic acid, multivitamin, calcium daily
Previous Meds...so many!


Kaycie
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   Posted 9/17/2008 8:57 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm usually pretty good when I'm not on Prednisone, but when I'm on Prednisone, it is SO much harder!  When I start to wean and I have a bad day, I realize and give myself a few days to readjust before I call the doc back to consider not weaning so fast. 
 
I find it hardest when I'm at the bowling alley.  Not much I can eat there and I'm there a LOT because I'm an active bowler AND volunteer quite a bit.

Try not to beat yourself up.  In the beginning, i was fast and hard about NOT slipping up... on anything.  As it progressed, I learned that once I was in remission, a french fry here and there was okay or now I can drink soda, but couldn't before.  I notice that with each flare, my ability to eat certain things changes yet again.
 
GL and just take it day by day..... it IS hard!
Kaycie - Age: 26
Crohn's - Dx Nov 05
Remicade - Next infusion - July 10th - new dose - 10mg/kg
IVF #1 (In-Vitro Fertilization) - Failed
IVF #2 - IVIg, Heparin, Baby Aspirin - TWIN GIRLS!!!
Reagan Dawn - 8/2/07 - Lived 1 hour 27 minutes due to Cloaca, NOT affiliated with my Crohn's
Addison Maria - 8/2/07 - 11 months old


ZenaWP
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   Posted 9/17/2008 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   
I did this just last night and was extremely sorry afterwards (and thought why in the world did I do that?).  I guess being in remission for over a year gave me a false sense of security, as I was able to eat things I had never been able to eat before.  I think I'm in a flare up now and decided for some reason last night that I wanted pasta sauce to dip bread in.  My husband commented on it, but I just kept eating (maybe about a cup of sauce by the end of it).  Let's just say that I really regretted it afterwards and really wondered why I'd been so stupid...I knew better.  At least I finally stopped hurting enough to be able to sleep.  =)

Crohn's Disease, Acid Reflux/Gastritis, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Endometriosis, Arthritis, Depression/Anxiety.  Too many meds to list them all.  =) 


beartooth
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   Posted 9/17/2008 10:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Prednisone becomes a major downfall for me as well. I just get the munchies, and it seems uncontrollable. The rest of the time, I do really well on days I'm working, but on my days off I make up for the missed time. Someone suggested to me that I try to include a little something to satisfy the craving everyday, that would make me less inclined to over do the next time I really give in. I don't do very well with tempting foods laying around the house either. I know it is wasteful, but what I've been doing is buying a single slice of cake from the store, eating a couple bites and then pitching the rest. Seems to help out, but I still ended up with some ice cream at home last night, and there was heck to pay this morning!
Brandon
 
36 y.o. male
Diagnosed w/ moderate UC in May '06 - currently flaring
Asacol, Florastor, VSL#3, Wellbutrin XL, Prozac, multi-vitamin, Allegra, Lialda, Prednisone 30mg


pb4
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   Posted 9/17/2008 10:14 AM (GMT -7)   

Oh but there is 2 test for lactose intolerance, one is a breath test, not near as effective as the test I took though which is where they have you drink a little cup of this really sweet milky stuff (no, it's not actual milk) it's the lactase which is the natural sugar in milk products and then every 1/2 hour they take blood from you...for me I started having pure D (and my BM's were semi formed for the most part before I drank this stuff) and I was late getting my second blood withdrawn (and apparently accuracy, being every 1/2 hour on the dot) makes is key, by the time I was suppose to get my 3rd blood drawn I was sooooooo sick with D the lab tech was so angry at the doc for putting me through this test as she stated it was sooo obviouse that I was severely lactose intolerant so she said just go home when you feel safe to leave and I'll mark the test as you being severely lactose intolerant.

The Primadophilus Reuteri has completely aided me with this issue thank goodness.

 

:)

Nanners said...
I use to cheat way more than I do now, but after alot of bad days becuz of my poor food choices, I do it alot less now. I still do cheat ocasionally, but not like I did before. LMills just fyi, there really isn't a test for lactose intolerance. I found out thru trial and error and some posts from PB4 that I was lactose intolerant. Got that out of my diet and things have improved alot.


My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


RedAdmin
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   Posted 9/17/2008 10:20 AM (GMT -7)   
about the lactose intolerance, my mother thought she was for a couple of years and it turns our she is type 2 not lactose intolerance. so be careful about self diganoses.
Red (Lee Ann)
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pb4
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   Posted 9/17/2008 10:24 AM (GMT -7)   
I know it's really hard guys...I used to be a junk-food junky and completely altering my diet was one of the hardest things I ever had to do but so well worth it in the end. The cravings you get from those unhealthy foods do completely go away, your taste buds among other chemical balances in the brain really do adjust and change and once you've stopped eating/drinking all junky stuff it does get out of your system...when I see people eating some of my favorite junky stuff that I used to severely induldge in it actually makes me shutter because it grosses me out it doesn't make me want it...the mind is a powerful thing that's for sure but we have more control then we give ourselves credit for...

It took alot of will-power and some creativeness on my part to get off of all the junky stuff...I'd convince myself it no longer exsisted so in the grocery store I would just bypass particular (actually many isles), and when I got really tempted (which happend less the more days I went without putting junky stuff in) then I'd just convince myself if I ate it I would get e-coli or something...lots of will-power but it can definitely be done...when I craved something sweet which was usually my biggest downfall then I'd eat a bunch of sweet fruit/juices, and when I craved salty out came a cucumber with a little salt sprinkled on.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


Jen77
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   Posted 9/17/2008 12:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh I slip up all the time! For the most part food won't send me in to a flare. It may give me a few bad bathroom trips, or aggravate a flare that's already in progress though. There is very little that I've given up food wise completely. I may not eat it all the time, but I will allow myself to splurge when I feel the need to. I just make sure I do so when I can be around the bathroom afterwards!
~Jennifer
 
Diagnosed with Crohn's Disease 2/06 after sever GI bleed. Has been suffering since 1998. History of rectal fistula and gallbladder removal. Taking Asacol, Questran, Toprol XL (for high blood pressure). Tapered off prednisone a month ago!


Matthew
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   Posted 9/17/2008 12:38 PM (GMT -7)   
LOL! This brings back both good & BAD memories! When I was on Pred I was complete chocoholic! I was very sick then, too. But it didn't matter! I had to have my pudding cake or cupcake. Well, I survived & got better..
Yeah, cut yourself some slack! Especially when you start feeling better, you may be astonished at what you can get away with.. Every now & then, that is..

Matthew

pb4
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   Posted 9/17/2008 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Count me as a chocoholic too, that I didn't give up completely, I've just adjusted, instead I'm particular about the chocolate I eat, must be at least 80% cocoa and I don't eat it every single day like I used to (or 2-3 times a day either)...moderation and go for the good/better for you stuff.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


MAG102886
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   Posted 9/17/2008 3:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Haha, stop talking about chocolate!  I work in a high end candy store...I make truffles and fudge, and caramels, and my favorite rice crispy treats covered in chocolate and then dipped into whatever my little heart desires (usually M&Ms LOL)  I can honestly say, it doesnt matter how sick I am, I always find a way to get a lil bit of chocolate. 60mg of prednisone and working in a candy store makes for a dangerous combination!
Dianogsed with Crohns at 16, 21 yrs old now.
Surgeries:1 Bowel Resection, Gallbladder Removed. Another Resection Scheduled for September.
Current Meds: Humira (weekly), 60mg Pred, Levbid, Nexium.
 

pb4
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   Posted 9/17/2008 4:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Yummmmmmmm....if I didn't have CD that would be my dream job MAG102886...but I'd probably get fired for eating all the product LOL!

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


meowese
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   Posted 9/17/2008 5:00 PM (GMT -7)   
I always blame my weight gain on having to be on prednisone. It's true, it has not been kind to my looks, but frankly I have not lost any of my prednisone weight and I could have been much more careful with my eating while on it. It does upset me, but no sense in beating myself up too much. I've sort of gotten used to being 35 lbs heavier. SOB.

gachrons
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   Posted 9/17/2008 5:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi I do not eat things I know will cause me problems, so I stay with low roughage but I eat sweets and yes chocolate. Small amounts not alot like a bar or something once in awhile. My biggest problem is definately roughage. If I think something is not going to work for me I stay away from it. Just keep trying and you"ll do alright. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


LMills
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   Posted 9/17/2008 5:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Actually, with chocolate I haven't had any for two months now. The sugar itself though god...it really is addictive. I ate three blowpops today :( And a hamburger with..well, things on it. Normally a hamburger is okay if it's just on the bread and with ketchup, but ehhh things have been stressful lately so it's hard not to give in to onions and lettuce. I'll be more careful after this though hah...I can feel some part of my insides hurting. Not sure if it's bloating, inflammation, the possible obstruction, or what but that food was good and it made me feel better so I'm glad I ate it. Just maybe not the sugary food afterward...

I'm amazed at how many people can get away with any amount of chocolate though. I'll have to try it out again sometime.
I am jealous of the candystore job by the way, but that would be so dangerous for me. I'm sure they would start to wonder how they were losing their supply.

I guess giving in can be beneficial in the end anyway though provided it's put into a food diary or something is at least learned from it. Then again, it seems there are a lot of us who have learned but disregard it :) I'll say it again, thank god for comfort food.
20 years old, Diagnosed with severe Crohn's and colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone, pentasa, alinia, bentyl, prilosec, tandem plus, and the occasional ultracet
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy(very possibly due to Crohn's inflammation) in July of 2008.
Due to start Imuran September 17 depending on blood results.

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