can't eat fruit/vegetables at all???

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sammies
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   Posted 9/27/2008 8:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm stumped. Been on humira for 3 months and have been in a flare since January. For the last 2 months, I can tolerate vegetables--any even cooked come out chewed up and cause serious gas. The only fruit I can tolerate is canned peaches--I can't even do canned pears anymore. Orange juice is ok and I can mix in a little cranberry. And, of all things, I can handle tomatoes and tomato sauce.
My diet is awful--protein, bread, sweets. I have D all the time so I'm not gaining weight.

I've had this disease for 33 years and never dealt with this before for this long.

ideas????
23 years with moderate Crohn's/colitis; fistulizing crohn's; pentasa, just started humira


Roni
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   Posted 9/27/2008 9:26 PM (GMT -7)   
The sweets are aggravating your symptoms. Cut out all sugar. Eat pureed fruits and veggies -- even from baby food jars if you have to.

Just because they aren't digesting well, doesn't mean you aren't absorbing some nutrients and they are still healing foods. Sugar is definitely not a healing food -- especially for us cronies. If you really have to have sweets, try honey on toast. Also, natural sourdough bread is easier to digest and is easier on the tummy than commercial breads.

Have you added a strong multi probiotic to your diet? Also, digestive enzymes help digest food better, but you should try to eat a more natural diet; no preservatives, chemicals, or processed food.

Meat, potatoes, well-cooked pureed veggies with real butter or olive oil or honey, pureed fruit in baby jars if that's all you can handle, natural sourdough breads are all great, easy to digest and nutritious.

Best wishes.

ivy6
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   Posted 9/27/2008 10:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Could you try pureeing the vegetables? Carrots, potatoes or pumpkin cooked in a nourishing chicken stock and then pureed might work for you.

Failing that, could you boil the vegetables (without salt) and then drink the water from the saucepan? There would be *some* nourishment in that, I'd think.

I'm so sorry you're this sick.

Ivy.
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Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 9/28/2008 3:58 AM (GMT -7)   
I couldn't have written the post any better than Roni...I cannot stress how BAD the sugar is for your D!!!

If you cannot/do not want to do the pureed veggies and fruits yourself, go the babyfood root. Get a good brand, but read the ingredients to make sure they are as pure as you want (for example: some might mix apple in with other fruits)...give it a couple days and see how you feel.

FitzyK23
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   Posted 9/28/2008 7:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Sammies - I disagree with the other posters. Yes we know sugar isn't great for us. But the bottom line is we need to eat what makes us feel better. For awhile I didn't eat fruits and veggies either because I knew they were killing me. I ate rice, pasta, lean chicken/turkey, sandwich meat, tuna, bland fishes, smoothies, etc. When I started feeling better I would add in very well cooked carrots or other veggies. Now that I am feeling so much better I can even eat some raw fruit. I don't think there is any point in eating things that you know will make you feel worse. Take a good multi-vitamen and when you start feeling better work back in some of the healthier foods. Healthy is a relative term - what is healthy for some may not be healthy for others. I am not just talking caloric intake and fat content here. I am talking about consequences of eating certain foods.
26 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 9/28/2008 10:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Sammies--I take the original post to mean that you are not feeling well with all the Diahrea you are having...that is why I posted that sugar is bad for D(and can cause more of it)...its understandable that you need calories, but if I was having such a terrible time with D, sugar would be the first thing I would cut out (and have done so on MANY occasions, and eventually introduced it back in in moderation).
 
Fitzy is right that you have to eat what makes you feel better...I hope you can find relief, soon.

MMMNAVY
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   Posted 9/28/2008 11:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Sammies,
The only way I can eat any vegs at all right now is juiced. Even then is a touch and go thing. Sometimes I get get some dill, spinach (both juiced), and put it in mash potatoes. Boiled potatoes are fairly safe for me.
Just FYI sugar may have some negative effect, but for most people with crohns sugar substitutes are even worse.
Honey I think works best and is a natural aid to healing if you need something that makes something sweet.
I agree with fitzy eat whatever the heck makes you feel better.
TC,
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sammies
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   Posted 9/28/2008 2:32 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks for the responses--I appreciate any and all advice. I feel like the lack of fruits and vegetables is really making me irritable. It's been a long time since I've done the smoothie route--so just bought some juices and bananas. Am reassured that others have had or are having the same experience. I do feel like I'm taking in too much sugar and, yet, am having a hard time taking in enough calories. My weight is stablish--but that's b/c I'm allowing myself some high caloric stuff. I can't do dairy at all right now either---this after using lactaid pills for over 7 years. sigh . . .

I will try the probiotics soon--but I can't take anymore gas. Right now, I feel like a walking gas bubble and gurgle factory from the immodium (which really doesn't seem to be working unless I take a lot), cipro and humira.

keep those helpful hints coming. THANK YOU!!!
23 years with moderate Crohn's/colitis; fistulizing crohn's; pentasa, just started humira


FitzyK23
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   Posted 9/28/2008 2:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Are you taking the advanced immodium that has the anti-gas in it? If not, get an over the counter anti-gas pill. I like the one with the generic name brand simethicone or something like that.
26 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


Keeper
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   Posted 9/28/2008 3:02 PM (GMT -7)   
If you are getting that much gas, it is a fairly certain bet that there are bad bacteria at work in your gut. Normally, fiber is not such a problem, but it is fermented by gut bacteria and if you are suffering from an overabundance of the bad ones, they can generate lots of gas and waste products that irritate the gut. The best way to eliminate them is probiotics. I see you mention cipro, so that would explain the bad bugs. You need to be taking a good probiotic at least two hours after the cipro, since cipro will kill probiotics more easily than some undesirable gut inhabitants. You should also try some lactose-free milk (lactaid treated milk) if you can tolerate it. It will feed the probiotics and help them to displace the bad guys.
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