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teddybearweiser
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   Posted 10/5/2008 1:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone,
Just a reminder its time for us crohnnies to get a flu shot. Especially if you are on Remicade, Humiria. That puts us in the high risk catagory.

teddybear
Hi, I am teddybearweiser, I am a male.
I was diagnosed with crohns disease when i was admitted to the hospital

in 1992, in Jan of 1993 I was back in the hospital for surgery for my crohns. I had part of my right colon resectioned with ilecolonstomy.

My GI doctor has me on Asacol, Dicyclomine,Imuran,Celebrex and Remicade. B-12 injection once a month.
Also diagnosed with Osteoarthritis and Rheumatoid Arthritis


Texan with Crohn's
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   Posted 10/5/2008 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Flu shots frighten me. My immune system is so bad that I get the flu every time I get the shot! Am I the only one this happens to?? I gave up last year because of it. I literally get EVERYTHING that anyone around me gets... and I mean everything. That reminds me that I need to re-schedule my appointment with the apothecary so that he can make me some custom vitamin formulas.

Having a difficult time right now from nausea and vomiting... the phenegren is not stopping it. Think I have that darn bug that I tried so hard not to catch.


Arrrrr... think I am calling it a day and heading to bed. Don't care that it's only 5:30 pm. I feel horrible.

gachrons
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   Posted 10/5/2008 3:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Texan your not alone with the shot sure hope your feeling better soon. Teddy good luck with your flu shot . lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


sjkly
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   Posted 10/5/2008 3:48 PM (GMT -7)   
My doc told me no flu shots-she doesn't want to activate my immune system-we keep trying to put it to sleep.
I do know though that she advices some of her AI patients to get the shots.
Sj

LisaLee37
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   Posted 10/5/2008 5:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Against all of my doctor's wishes...I have never had a flu shot since I have had Crohn's (8 years). Everyone thinks I am nuts...but I am terrified to add anything else into my body.

By the way, I have worked with children for the past 20 years. Since I have had Crohn's, I have actually been healthier in terms of colds and flu's than I have ever been. Even with being on Remicade and Humira. Go figure?

Sure hope I am not being a smarty pants and that eventually it will catch up with me.

Kaycie
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   Posted 10/5/2008 5:22 PM (GMT -7)   
My docs have advised AGAINST getting the flu shot since being dx. That said, I never had one before being dx and only have gotten the flu 2 or 3 times total in my 26 years, all before my Crohn's.
Kaycie - Age: 26
Crohn's - Dx Nov 05
Failed Remicade, moving onto a Clinical Trial called ABT-874 - Tentative start date - 10/2/08 - 10/16/08  - Infusion, every 4 weeks.
IVF #1 (In-Vitro Fertilization) - Failed
IVF #2 - IVIg, Heparin, Baby Aspirin - TWIN GIRLS!!!
Reagan Dawn - 8/2/07 - Lived 1 hour 27 minutes due to Cloaca, NOT affiliated with my Crohn's
Addison Maria - 8/2/07 - 13 months old


Jen77
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   Posted 10/5/2008 5:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Yep, I'll be getting mine soon. We've got a cold going around our house right now, so kinda waiting for that to clear up before we go. But I got it last year, and plan on getting it this time too. Figure it doesn't hurt, espeically with our crazy immune systems. Seems like every time I do catch any illness I get it worse then everyone else!
~Jennifer
 
Diagnosed with Crohn's Disease 2/06 after sever GI bleed. Has been suffering since 1998. History of rectal fistula and gallbladder removal. Taking Asacol, Questran, Toprol XL (for high blood pressure). Tapered off prednisone a month ago!


LBJ
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   Posted 10/5/2008 8:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Nope not getting the flu shot this year. I didn't get it last year either. And only reason I got it the year before that was because I was pregnant. I don't like putting things in my body if I don't have to. And every time I do get that darn thing, I get sick with the flu. My son and husband both got flu shots last year and both got the flu. I didn't get the shot and I didn't get the flu from them. (knock on wood) So I am staying away from it again this year too. I will get my son the shot because he's so young.
Living with Crohn's Disease since Jan./2000 but had a few years prior
I'm a true Crohnie with IBS and Arthrities too
 
Meds I have tried:  Too many to list- LOL
Meds currently on:  Prednisone-  I am off of it!!   YAAHH!!! :-)   
                           Methotrexate injections once a week 25mg
                           Folic Acid 5mg every day
                           Wellbutrin twice a day
No Surgeries
 


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 10/5/2008 10:08 PM (GMT -7)   
imho you're potentially asking for trouble with a flu shot. here are only 3 reasons:

1) they contain mercury. yes mercury. it isnt listed as mercury (i forget the name) but it has plenty of this heavy metal in it to be toxic to your body. of course they wont tell you this and they will balk at it if you bring it up and play it off, but it is in there.

2) the docs/cdc people dont know what the flu strain(s) are gonna be big any given year. it is a random guess. like picking a name out of a hat. if the flu wipes every one out, like the one that hit last year, it is because it is a new variant that hasnt been seen yet and thus there are no antibodies for it and thus it is not in your flu shot so the flu shot was useless. the stuff in the flu shot is like 2-3 years old. the new mutated flu virus you're most likely to get isnt in the flu shot.

3) you can get the flu from the flu shot as they are injecting you with "dead" flu virus.


the best way to prevent getting sick is to wash your hands and not hang out with sick people (the latter is harder than it sounds). and if you are sick, do all of us a favor and stay home. use a sick day for what it is for (if you are fortunate enough to have sick days). and keep your kids home from school too. chances are they arent learning anything any way and it is just free day care.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


teddybearweiser
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   Posted 10/6/2008 6:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi my doctor told me to take tylenol for 3 days which helps with not getting the flu after getting the flu shot. It works.
Hi, I am teddybearweiser, I am a male.
I was diagnosed with crohns disease when i was admitted to the hospital

in 1992, in Jan of 1993 I was back in the hospital for surgery for my crohns. I had part of my right colon resectioned with ilecolonstomy.

My GI doctor has me on Asacol, Dicyclomine,Imuran,Celebrex and Remicade. B-12 injection once a month.
Also diagnosed with Osteoarthritis and Rheumatoid Arthritis


Sniper
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   Posted 10/6/2008 7:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Maybe they give a live virus shot to you Texan. I get the dead virus and have never had trouble. Of course the mosquitoes suck most of it out of me before I can get home...
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


Miss_82
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   Posted 10/6/2008 8:23 AM (GMT -7)   
I've never gotten it and been fine so far. Got really sick though last year because my co-worker was extremely sick and still came to work :(
26 years old
CD for 20 years
Bowel resection in Dec. 2006
No meds at the moment


jenngrl81
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   Posted 10/6/2008 12:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Just to reitterate: You CANNOT get the flu from the flu shot. It is a DEAD virus, which means the microorganisms have been killed, they can't come back to life and infect you. You can, however, have an allergic reaction to the shot. Check out the CDC (Center for Disease Control) website.
http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/protect/keyfacts.htm

Thanks for the friendly reminder 'teddybear'. I'm getting my shot tomorrow and making my boyfriend get one too. He's terrified of needles so it'll be pretty funny if he gets dizzy and passes out. He can't even look at my arm after a Remicade infusion, makes him nauseous.
Pentasa- 1000mg/2x 1/08; Percocet
Remicade 1st infusion 7/24/08
Ultram ER 200mg; Prilosec 40mg; Xanax-ANXIETY; Cymbalta 60mg
Entocort 9mg
Probiotic
Ferrous Sulfate 325mg/daily for anemia
Azathioprine 150mg
Currently on a Low-residue diet as of 11/26

I'm so tired, when will this get better?


pb4
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   Posted 10/6/2008 12:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I've never gotten one and don't intend to...my mom has UC and whenever she got a flu shot she got really super sick so she stopped getting them and does much better...my hubby just got over a flu and so far it hasn't gotten me, I don't get the flu very often, maybe once every couple of yrs.

:)
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EMom
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   Posted 10/6/2008 12:44 PM (GMT -7)   
my mom just got her flu shot. she immediately had terrible soreness in the shot arm which migrated throughout her shoulder and up into her neck. then it moved to the other side of her neck and the other shoulder. she was quite uncomfortable through all this--she even went for a massage in hopes of alleviating the pain. after about 6 days the soreness finally subsided, but on about day 4 or 5 she started what is now a nasty cold. a reaction....? confused
Mom to 16 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, vit. C, calcium w/D3, a good multivitamin and SCD legal yogurt
Started The Maker's Diet in Sept. '07. Gradually learning/using more SCD recipes, too! (cooking challenged)


ImaKeeper
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   Posted 10/6/2008 1:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Well I went and got mine today...Along with crohns I have asthma and both my GI dr and my Asthma dr recomend it....so far every year Ive got one Ive stayed pretty healthy and thats with 3 kids....
currently taking

pentasa, hyocosamine, zofran, acphix and started Remicade back in May


nenagirl
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   Posted 10/6/2008 11:44 PM (GMT -7)   
It is virtually impossible to get influenza (the real thing) from an influenza vaccination.  The vaccine is made of a DEAD strain of the virus.  A person may feel a bit achy/feverish after a vaccination but that is due to the body's immune reaction (a good thing because the body is busy making antibodies to fight against the type of flu they are being vaccinated against).  It really irks me when people say "I have the flu" when they have a stomach upset.  Believe me, if a person really has the "flu" (influenza), they will have symptoms of an upper respiratory illness/infection.....similar to a very bad cold accompanied by high fever, chills, etc.  I've had Crohn's disease for 30 years and have always had the flu vaccination, as has every member of my household.  Prevention is one form of a cure :).   

Nanners
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   Posted 10/7/2008 6:53 AM (GMT -7)   
As stated before you cannot get the flu from the flu shot because it is dead. If you ended up getting the flu a days after you got the shot, then more than likely you already had been exposed. I get a flu shot every year and other than a sinus infection I had a month or so ago, I have not had a cold or the flu in years. JMHO
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.

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