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MAG102886
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   Posted 10/7/2008 4:50 PM (GMT -7)   
I had my 2nd resection on Sept 19th, and I spent 7 days in the hospital, where I developed a c diff infection, I was treated for it there with IV flagyl and also 5 days at home in pill form.  But, while I was in the hospital all of my BMs were completely liquid because I was on a liquid diet but from the c diff infection they were yellowish green and had a very bad smell...Since being home for a little over a week now and eating my BMs are no longer liquid but its always D and its yellowish green colored, and when I have a BM its always small, and has the same smell as in the hospital when I had the C diff infection.  So now Im starting to wonder if the C diff infection isnt gone? Or are my bowels still getting used to food?  How long does it take your bowels to adjust after having surgery?  Im going to see my GI on Monday, I just have a really weird feeling that the C diff infection is still there, and I cant remember what my BMs were like after my first surgery because it was like 6 yrs ago, anyone have any suggestions, opinions, advice?
Dianogsed with Crohns at 16, 21 yrs old now.
Surgeries:2 Bowel Resections, Gallbladder Removed.
Current Meds: Humira (bi-weekly), 50mg Pred, Levbid, Nexium, B12 injections.
 

PV
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   Posted 10/7/2008 5:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi. My husband has had a horrifying experience with crohn's and c-diff. C-diff is an extremely difficult infection to beat really. My husband has been on vancomycin since March, 250mgs 4 times a day. He was in the hospital for 2 months fighting crohns and c-diff, and is now down to 5mgs of prednisone. A couple of weeks ago, his docs thought it was safe enough to stop the vancomycin, and within 2 weeks, his infection came back. So, he's on the vancomycin again.

The reason why c-diff is so hard to eradicate is because it is a spore forming bacteria. So, when you start taking the vancomycin, the bacteria hybernates in spore form, which the vancomycin can't kill - the vancomycin can only kill the active bacteria. When you stop taking the vancomycin, the spores become bacteria again, and start multiplying until you end up with enough c-diff bacteria to start causing symptoms.

You should definitely get your stool tested asap. The very loose stool, and the very foul odour is very distinctive of c-diff. Please go right away and get your stool tested, and maybe even start taking vancomycin immediately. Talk to your doctor asap. Or if you go to the ER, they'll test your stool right away, and give you results very quickly.

Also, there are some things that may help you defeat a c-diff infection - the next time you try to wean off the vancomycin, perhaps you can discuss with your doctor a pulsing regimen, whereby you don't stop vancomycin abruptly, you taper (take vanc 5 days a week, then 4 days a week, etc). This pulsing regimen should help fill off the spores as they become bacteria, and hopefully before they produce more spores. Also, a yeast called saccromyces boullardi is thought to help ward off c-diff, and of course probiotics. Also, when you start the pulsing schedule with vanc, it maybe helpful to go to a very low carb diet - since carbs feed bacteria, including the bad bacteria, helping them grow in numbers. Starving them may help kill the bad bacteria.

Good Luck. My husband is still struggling with his c-diff infection. But thankfully so far, c-diff has shown no resistance to vancomycin, and seems pretty gentle on the system overall, since it's mostly absorbed just in the gut. Please see a doc right away and get it tested. I hope it's not c-diff, but if it is, it's important to start treatment right away, before you end up with c-diff colitis.

(((hugs)))
Preetha

gachrons
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   Posted 10/8/2008 4:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Mag was just wandering how things are going for you now? lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


MAG102886
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   Posted 10/8/2008 4:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Everything about the same, but my BMs arent the yellow green color, they are brown now.  I def thing I still have the c diff infection tho.  And my insurance that I was getting through th state just ran out Oct 1st, lovely.  So Im going to wait until Monday when I go see my specialist for my follow up, luckily he doesnt charge for that, but Im sure he'll want me to do some stool samples to get tested which I will be charged for, BLAH.  God Im so happy I at least have prescription coverage through work or else I dunno where Id be right now especially since Im on Humira (800 dollars every other week, I dont even make that much!) haha.

Dianogsed with Crohns at 16, 21 yrs old now.
Surgeries:2 Bowel Resections, Gallbladder Removed.
Current Meds: Humira (bi-weekly), 50mg Pred, Levbid, Nexium, B12 injections.
 

gachrons
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Total Posts : 4527
   Posted 10/8/2008 6:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Mag I think your on to a good thing there getting checked again but hope things aren't the C-diff. Yes you sure are lucky to have the meds covered. So many are not covered for that and are living scarry lives I think. Wishing you luck. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail

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