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Curious1
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   Posted 10/11/2008 7:46 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
 Hello Everyone :)
 
Im a little apprehensive to initiate this topic, Im a student studying dental.... I am doing a Project on Crohn's Disease, and was wondering if anyone feels comfortable enough to share some information. I figured here would be the best source... and would really appreciate any sort of help :)... i only have a couple questions that google isn't really helpful on :) , i understand this is a forum for those with the disease to communicate with others in the same situation...aware of this i hope not to offend anyone.
 
Hope to hear from someone soon :)
 
 

LMills
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   Posted 10/11/2008 7:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Depending on the nature of the questions I would be happy to help you.
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone(down to 10 mg), pentasa, bentyl as needed, prilosec, tandem plus, humira, and good probiotics
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
http://weblog.xanga.com/harlequin_garret


gachrons
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Date Joined Mar 2007
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   Posted 10/11/2008 7:56 AM (GMT -7)   
What would you like to know? lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


Curious1
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Date Joined Oct 2008
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   Posted 10/11/2008 8:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you so much...i appreciate the quick responses...

my main question is how it relates to the oral cavity (mouth)...im aware the disease can affect anywhere from the mouth to the anus... is the lack of nutrition what causes the oral manifestations? such as aphthous ulcers?

thanks

Ashlee

dunny2
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   Posted 10/11/2008 9:40 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't think so... I think it's just the nature of the disease.
Vicky

Too many years with CD
Two bowel resections, several obstructions.
Fibromyalgia and recently diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis
B12 Shots bi-weekly

Laughter is the brush that sweeps the cobwebs from our hearts


Rider Fan
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   Posted 10/11/2008 9:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Nope. It's just this darn blasted god forsaken disease. If you ever meet someone with this disease please be kind to them....
Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: 100 mg 6MP. Just finished prednisone taper. Udo's Choice Probiotics (30 billion).
 
Betaine, digestive enzymes, Candicin (oil of oregano capsules), Beta Sitosterol.


Curious1
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   Posted 10/11/2008 9:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much...

so its just a symptom that comes along with the disease?

researching the disease has me feel for all those suffering, and i hope that everyday everyone finds something to make this struggle easier...

Miss3
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   Posted 10/11/2008 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   

My teeth have been realy sensitive lately. I was just diagnosed in June and kept getting worse until I ended up in the hospital for almost two weeks. I noticed the teeth being sensitive while I was in there but not sure if it was before or after the remicade. I've been having so many other issues from remicade it wouldn't surprise me if the teeth problem is from that as well though.

 

Miss


Keeper
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   Posted 10/11/2008 11:48 AM (GMT -7)   
The problem is due to the common mucous membrane immune system. The elevated TNF and IgE levels cause hypersensitivity to a wide array of irritants including common bacteria and allergens. I imagine that nutrient deficiencies resulting from malabsorption also contribute. Oxidative stress is poorly controlled because vitamins E, A and C are commonly deficient as are zinc and iron. Malabsorption also results in calcium deficit and taking calcium carbonate has the effect of reducing stomach acids thus diminishing the ability to absorb other deficient minerals (and carbonate is the least absorbable form of calcium, if also the cheapest). Of course, the teeth reflect the state of the calcium supply in the body, so they suffer as well. Malabsorption is a consequence of inflammation of the ileum and excess mucous secretion and commonly causes B12 and folate deficiency as well.

There are a number of syndromes relating to immune reaction to gut bacteria (the currently accepted view of the process of Crohn's) resulting from the immune cascade (TNF and IgE and a host of immune molecules) and the bacterial response (gut infection, release of endotoxins, diarrhea, fistulas and fissures, increased gut permeability, translocation of gut bacteria to the blood, liver, gallbladder, pancreas and others) and mimicking of body tissues by gut bacteria or their by-products resulting in auto-immunity toward a wide range of body tissues (mostly mucous membranes like the synovia).

To answer your question, throat, mouth and sinus lesions result from chronic inflammation of the gut. Even in well-controlled Crohn's, there is commonly irritation in the throat and sinuses.

pb4
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   Posted 10/11/2008 2:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I've had CD for 17 yrs straight with no full remission, I had issues from time to time with mouth ulcers but when I started taking probiotics daily those issues ended...I've never had throat issues due to my CD or sinus lesions either whether my CD is under better control or not, so it all depends on the CDer.

The main thing is when a crohnie is flaring and they're sitting in the dental chair, when they need to go to the bathroom there is generally no waiting, this is why I inform my dentist of the chance that during visits I may have to urgently use the bathroom regardless of what stage he's at working in my mouth...luckily I have great teeth and the dentist check up is super quick for me, in general so is the teeth cleaning too so long as the hygenist talks and works on my teeth at the same time, nothing more annoying then getting a hygenist that gabs constantly and stops working on cleaning my teeth while gabbing just holding the instruments in their hands going on and on conversating when all I want is for them to do their job and let me go already.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


gachrons
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   Posted 10/11/2008 2:51 PM (GMT -7)   
My teeth have become sensitive at times. Some days are good and some not. Another thing that seems to effect alot of us are cryptic tonsils that dentist should be helping there patients with like how to cleanse those nasty things out properly. That would be a huge help .lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


Erik45
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Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 149
   Posted 10/11/2008 3:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I lost all my teeth i'm pretty sure this dam disease cause it...
Crohns for 13 years
1 surgery so far
2 times in hospital for blockages
MEDS:
Remicade
Imuran
B12 Injections


eva124
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 246
   Posted 10/11/2008 4:00 PM (GMT -7)   
i have never really had ne problems with ulcers in my mouth,most of my life my teeth have been fine,only 2 fillings due to hypo plastic teeth,then recently i needed to have one of my teeth pulled due to the fact it was completly rotten on the inside,no signs of decay on the outside of the tooth,didnt hurt to push on only thing was hurting was the jaw bone.I'm unsure why this happened and the dentist was baffled by it lol.
dx 17 aug 2007
21 yrs old
13 dec 2007 resection/temp illeostomy 14 feb 2008 temp illeostomy reversed 
150mg azamun
3000mg pentasa


Curious1
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Date Joined Oct 2008
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   Posted 10/12/2008 7:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks to everyone for your responses....

I've learned SO much and i appreciate your time :)
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