'Great Taste, No Pain' Diet.. has anyone tried it or heard of it?

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Aussiegirl2008
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   Posted 10/15/2008 3:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I found this diet 'Great Taste No Pain' online

It is meant to use food combining to help digestion and says it can 'cure' digestive disorders such as Crohn's.
Has anyone heard of it or tried it? Of course it costs $49.95 to purchase online, which is why I was wondering if anyone has had any success?

Thanks!
Saz :)

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SydneyJo
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   Posted 10/15/2008 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Saz,
I had'nt heard of this, but had a quick scan through it. She has said that you can get your money back if not satisifed within 3 months and that you should see results within days, so I guess you could try it and then send it back if you dont see any results. Let us know if you do try it and how it goes.
Jo

Margie11
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   Posted 10/15/2008 9:45 PM (GMT -6)   

 

Hello,

   A less expensive way to see what this diet may have to offer you would be to check out the following book from the library. I have had customers tell me this was helpful for their IBD's

Proper Food Combining Works: Living Testimony by Lee DuBelle


Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
 
                                              Margie11


Osprey101
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   Posted 10/15/2008 9:48 PM (GMT -6)   
It's probably one of those deals where they're happy to send your money back- provided you have a notarized letter from your doctor that you're no better, of course.

It sounds like it's just carbohydrate restriction. They make it clear you can still eat pasta and bread "in moderation," of course, but that may mean an once or two as a serving.

Aussiegirl2008
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   Posted 10/16/2008 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, I was wondering if i was a bit dodgy thats why I asked. Plus, if no one has heard of it, it can't be that great!!
Has anyone had any luck with food combining? Margie, I think I will check out that book if I can find it :)
Thanks again guys!
saz

Margie11
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   Posted 10/16/2008 7:33 PM (GMT -6)   

Aussie,
   Some of my customers have used it for various reasons. It is an supposed to build enzymes, a good idea for us. I think it would take a long time to build enough enzymes to handle Carbs easily, but could in theory be helpful. One of my co-workers is very sold on the method in the book I referred to before, and feels I would have done as well on combining as I have on the SCD, in terms of staying in remission without meds(my personal goal). I am guessing this is the same combining idea, as the web site.  My biggest concern is that while I have talked with many people who have had great success with the SCD, as I myself have, I have only limited third person knowledge of combining diets being helpful for those of us with serious IBD's. My other major concern is combining often requires fruit on an empty stomach, and in my personal experience this can bring on symptoms, and also is in direct opposition to SCD principals that have served me well. I would suggest that you also read Breaking The Vicious Cycle by E. Gottschall, not necessarily for the purpose of following the diet, but because it contains many sound ideas in a form that is easy to wrap your mind around, and would give you information that may help you weigh the issues. I also wonder if you have checked out the CD resource center on this site? There is great info there, placed there by Crohnies with experence in various diets. 

                                                                                      Mary (Margie11)


Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
 
                                              Margie11


Aussiegirl2008
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   Posted 10/17/2008 12:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I just had a look at the SCD... wow, it seems really difficult. The thing is, I find I can eat refined carbs (dry crackers, bread etc) really easily, they are one of the few foods I can eat without feeling sick. Before I was diagnosed I just existed on dry crackers.lol.
Ahh... it is all very confusing, I suppose I should do a little more research.. it is just hard to know where to begin!
Thanks :)

Aussiegirl2008
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   Posted 10/17/2008 12:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh, and may I add, that food combining book is available on Amazon for about $1.15! Now that is better than $50! lol :)

Roxette
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   Posted 11/4/2008 11:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Is Crohns really a digestive problem?
i didnt think it was. While i believe that diet can help with symptoms etc of Crohns i dont believe that diet can cure it completely.
Maybe im wrong; feel free to correct me.

Keeper
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   Posted 11/4/2008 4:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Diet is a trigger for Crohn's symptoms like D and C and pain. Many people have experienced improvements by controlling diet, but it is not the only trigger and diet certainly does not cure Crohn's. The likely way it works is by controlling the stuff reaching the gut that feeds certain bacteria that the gut immune system reacts to.

Squattie
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   Posted 11/4/2008 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Years ago I did food combining and felt great doing it. Then I gave it up for no good reason and never considered it again. I do know there is a lot to be said re acid/alkaline. I know that protein is important for us, but so much of the protein we eat is acidic. The old time meat and potato eaters made sure there was plenty of veggies to balance the proteins during a meal. I know the more veggies I eat (however I can prepare them) the better I feel. If I'm overbalanced with the proteins I don't do so well. And I always felt better eating the carbs without protein, if I'm doing carbs outside of what carbs are in the veggies.
.....Squattie


TeacherBetsy
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   Posted 11/4/2008 8:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Aussie, I have never heard of it... you sound a lot like me, though. I have much less trouble with refined carbs than anything else... can't tolerate high fiber foods or overdo it on veggies and whole grains at all, or I get very sick. Frankly, my approach to diet and Crohn's is to figure out what I can eat and eat it... if something bothers me, I avoid it... if not, I eat it. I like to keep it simple!

Hope you figure out what works best for you.

Betsy (-:
Dx Crohn's Disease 1996
Have taken Prednisone, Pentasa, Rowasa, and Asacol
Currently on Asacol 2400 mg daily to manage remission
 
 


hspenser
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   Posted 2/2/2009 11:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I just can't even begin to pay attention anymore to people or programs that claim they can stop or cure  UC and/or crohns......it even has become a pet peeve for me.
 
Millions and millions of $'s spent on research....and yet no except the foks trying to sell a supplement or a diet have found "the cure".  At the very least it tells me that the person offering this diet really doesn't know anything about the diseases they say they can cure...and at the worst they are insulting our inteligence, taking advatage of our suffering, lying to us and possibly making things worse for us health wise.   If it really worked wouldn't folks be scrweaming it from the mountain tops?????
 
This disease is so different for each of us that I fear there may never be a cure....most med's like Humira or tysabri don't cure as much as they treat the symptoms....quick taking them and look what happens....go off that "special" diet and see how long we stay symptom free. 
 
if these drugs and diets really cured the diseases wouldn't we...shouldn't we be able to stop taking the drugs or quit the diet?
 
At best this diet may work for you or provide relief (a small or maybe great amount) but I really doubt it will cure it and any claim along those lines is IMO mis-leading
dx IBS 1999   UC 2000   CD 2001
Tested BIOGEN TYSABRI (gave me 2 years of remission)
tried Naltrexone Jan. 19, 2007 Stopped the Naltrexone July 28th...started Humira Aug 31st, 2007...current dose one shot every week. Also nightly dose of mesalamine.
Surgery Nov 4th, 2008 removed 30 inches of small bowel.
 Crohns is currently active and has been since April of 2005
52 yrs old


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 2/3/2009 12:33 AM (GMT -6)   
squattie -

you may not tolerate proteins well because you are a "carb type" in regards to metabolic type (ie carb, protein, mixed). the basic macronutrient recommendations are as follows:

TYPE Protein Fat Carbs
carb: 25% 15% 60%
protein: 40% 30% 30%
mixed: 30% 20% 50%

this has been around for quite while, like the 60s or earlier. check out "the metabolic typing diet" by wiliam wolcott. this makes more sense to me (and has quite a bit of science and research to back it up) than something gimmicky like acid/alkaline diet (which does have its merits - just eat more veggies and you should be fine) and blood type diet (which is silly imho). i found the makers diet way easier to do than food combining. now that makes planning your meals difficult!

until i did the makers diet i relied on processed/refined foods and carbs and stayed away from veggies and high fiber foods cos of the pain. the makers diet now lets me eat the exact opposite. very very strange, but i'll take it cos i know it is healthier.

so here is a whole 'nother can of worms for you all to digest (didnt mean to hijack the thread)
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


workedforme
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   Posted 2/14/2009 4:17 AM (GMT -6)   
hspencer,
 
Hi, i would just like to make a comment on the Cure or non Cure of Crohn's.  There might not be a cure but i do believe we as individual's can make sure we don't suffer from the agonising affects of this horrid disease.  I've had crohns for over 12 years and only last year did i finally discover a way of relieving sypmtoms.  One of them being, food combining.  I really do believe it works, it certainly did for me, not on it's own mind.  I read in my research that around 90% of crohn's sufferers actually had a food intolorence.  I found a nutritional therapist who had a special interest in Crohn's.  I travelled a fair way to see her, that was the day my life took a turn for the better.  She tested my intolerances using Kinnesiology and found i was intolerant to wheat, diary, sugar and mushrooms.  She also highly recommended that i cut meat out of my diet and if i really felt the need to eat meet, limit it to white meat, once a week. I cut these foods out of my diet and followed the diet idea's she provided me with and within 3 days i was pain free.  I slacked a little as time went by and the pains came back.  I got back into it straight away and again the pains left.  I use food combining on a daily basis and it really does benefit, of course you have to eat the right foods too.  My diet consists of only natural foods, lots of fruit, vegetables and salad, fish, organic brown rice, oats, rye ,nuts and seeds etc.  It might sound boring which it did to me at first but there are lots of ways of making meals and making them tasty.  I have found that Sherry's great taste no pain recipes are very tasty and easy too.  So maybe there isn't a cure but i for one found a way to live pain free, if i slip, the pain will start to return so i just get back to it.  If people want to beat crohn's Disease then their lifestyle needs to change, it's hard to begin with for some people but once you have felt the benefits you can really start to enjoy the food you eat and have 'no pain'.  I must add that i've read a book called The Hay Diet made Easy and it that the author recommends that you shouldn't make drastic changes to your diet but do it bit by bit so not to have side affects.  I mentioned this as when i first changed over i did do it drastically and suffered with blood sugar levels for a couple of days, this being that i wasn't replacing the large amounts of wheat that my body was used with enough alternatives like organice brown rice, rye and oats.  I soon learnt my lesson though.  Good luck to you and every other sufferer.         turn

donnaeil
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   Posted 2/14/2009 1:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Am I the only one who detects advertising here? I am not discussing the sharing of info but am wary of folks who post for the first time and mention a product and are backed up by other first timers.

Sorry, I apologize if I am wrong.


Donnaeil

hspenser
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   Posted 2/14/2009 2:20 PM (GMT -6)   

worked for me:  Certainly not eating foods you know or find out are irritants to your body....or that you are allergic too is just common sense and IMO doesn't require a special diet to tell you that....so just by using common sense people can save money.

Your experiences as posted point this out....you found out what was bothering you...you stopped eating them and you feel better.  You eat them again and you get sick....pretty clear to me....now (and I do not mean to sound like a smart A or to be mean)...but if you know thses things hurt you why do you pay extra to have a diet tell you this?  Of course since when you do eat things bad for you and you get sick....this should prove that your diet is not a cure....yet that seemed to be the claim....and that is the point I was making....at the very most these diets provide relief....and only relief.

I grew up inthe food business....trained as a chef at the top culinary school in the country (some say the world) and have remained in the business all my life....the last 20 years I have worked to provide nutrition to the very old and the very young of this country.  I have worked with the UN to supply food to starving and war torn nations.  I have worked with governments to provide nutrition to areas affected by natural and man made disasters.....and all of that honestly tells me that good nutrition ...except in cases of malabsorption are taken care of with commonsense diets and do not require an how to book on mixing your foods.  It especially doesn't need someone making claims of curing major diseases....as I said ...for me this shows a real lack of respect for those suffering with the disease.

 

Donnaeil:  You have a sharp eye and your post makes great sense...even if you are wrong...there is nothing wrong with being wary.


dx IBS 1999   UC 2000   CD 2001
Tested BIOGEN TYSABRI (gave me 2 years of remission)
tried Naltrexone Jan. 19, 2007 Stopped the Naltrexone July 28th...started Humira Aug 31st, 2007...current dose one shot every week. Also nightly dose of mesalamine.
Surgery Nov 4th, 2008 removed 30 inches of small bowel.
 Crohns is currently active and has been since April of 2005
52 yrs old


belleenstein
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   Posted 2/14/2009 3:19 PM (GMT -6)   
The problem with all these "diet cures" is that none has so far been shown to effectively change the course of the disease in double blind research studies. The testimonials are great, and I have no doubt that, for some people and some types of crohn's, dietary alterations can make a big difference in the level of suffering. But when couched in terms of "cure" it is just overstating the case and creating false hope.

For those newly diagnosed such false hope can contribute to a lengthening of the grieving process that we all go through, encouraging many to stay stuck in the "denial" and "bargaining" stage, instead of moving forward towards the peace that comes from acceptance.

For those old-timers like me, these claims of cure can have a tendency to induce self-loathing. We blame ourselves for not having the self-discipline, motivation, time, money perseverance etc to stick to the program, often forgetting how many times and how many versions of "the cure" we tried back when we too were in denial and desperate.

All of this would be fine, accept that for some the cost of perpetuating this denial results in them minimizing and ignoring symptoms of the disease's pernicious march until the bowel has started to shut down.By then it is sometimes too late for medical intervention (drugs) and they require surgery for strictures.

I'm all for individuals playing around with their diets to figure out what helps them live their most healthy life. But until these diets' results can be replicated in double blind studies, which to date none have been able to do, it remains a matter of symptom control and is entirely individual.

If it works for you, great. But please do not suggest that it WILL work for anyone else. It may be useful for someone else to try it, but there are no guarantees.

And a good rule of thumb is, if you have to pay big bucks for mysterious elixers, the bull$$$$$ detection monitors should be going off in spades.
Belleenstein:

30+ years living with Crohn's.


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 2/14/2009 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I am wondering about advertising myself here.
That being said I think diet cannot cure, but it make one's symptoms worse... for example if I eat hot peppers then about 2 hours later after alot of pain I am going to have the acid poopies...but mash potatoes are a safe food for me...
Please make sure you use your common sense folks...
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workedforme
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   Posted 2/14/2009 6:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Apologies if a message similar arrives/d.  The message i just spent forever writing doesn't appear to have sent.  Anyway, let me begin.  I am raging right now as the comments i recieved from my last post appeared to make out like i was advertising a particular plan/diet/book.  I see why someone may think that but let me tell you that is SO NOT the case.  I am an ordinary 32 year old who has suffered this terrible disease for 12 plus years, been through one resection and may i never go through another.  My message was simply to tell those who suffer how i have become to control the disease rather that it control me as it did for so long.  I never once said that this was i cure, i actually stated, cure or NO CURE, there is a way that you can help yourself.  For the sceptics out there, if you suffer and you want help i am willing to pass on any information that might be of help to you and all the non sceptics too.  My message was only put on in the hope that if only one person was helped then someone was helped.  I wish i had known such information 12 years ago.  I may add that the only reason that a particular book was mentioned was as that said book was were i read that changing diet drastically can have side effects.  After suffering such side affects after i DID change diet drastically, i wanted others to know, not to do what i did, yes i got over the side affects within a few days, i would have preferred not to go through them at all.  The comment that was to rage me was about not having respect for people with the disease.  I have suffered the effects so long, not only the horrific pain but ALL the other affects this disease can have on you, your family, your lifestyle etc, how could i not respect anyone going through what i went through.  You can choose to believe there is a way or you can choose to believe there isn't a way but please don't knock me for trying to help someone else. That's all my original post was aimed at doin.

MMMNAVY
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   Posted 2/14/2009 9:20 PM (GMT -6)   
worked for me,
Please understand it is not you. We just get hit with alot of spambots over the weekends.
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workedforme
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   Posted 2/15/2009 5:12 AM (GMT -6)   

MMMNAVY,

Thank you for your comment and having slept on it, i understand more.  I remember through all my intense research, that it was hard to know what site or who to trust and those who weren't out only to make big money.  You know the ones who get you reading pages of info only to get to the end and it says pay 'however much' and we'll give you the secret remedy etc.  I never gave a penny for information only when i bought a couple of books.  But when i found the nutritional therapist, she gave me her phone number, talked to me for almost an hour, giving me lots of information and tips before i even went to see her.  (She has a niece who suffers too and i think that's why she has a special interest in crohn's) Infact she gave me so much information that i really didn't need to go and see her but i chose to go and have the intolerance test.  It cost me £60 and it was the best money i'd spent.  Being incontrol is the best feeling.   turn


Marburg
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   Posted 5/26/2009 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   

I can also voucher for this system.  I only started it 3 months ago.  I have GERD and some mild IBS and the only time I've had trouble with either is when I went off the plan.  It also recommends limiting or eliminating sugary or refined foods.

Marburg

HDViolist said...
To the skeptics of the value of "food combining", I would like to give my testimony that it absolutely works. The Sherry Brescia web site, materials, and daily newsletters are of tremendous benefit to sufferers of acid reflux, GERD, IBD (irritable bowel syndrome), diverticulitis, and other digestion problems, and the $39.95 or $49.95 cost of the materials is a great value when considered against a life of pain, discomfort, lack of sleep, lack of energy, over-medication, etc. From the basis of an endoscopy since I have had a burning throat after meals and difficulty swallowing sometimes, I was diagnosed with severe acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. My doctor prescribed PROTONIX but I did not want to take a stomach acid inhibitor, so I searched the web for a natural solution. I found Sherry Brescia's site, ordered the materials, and changed my eating habits. I've lost 20 pounds,
have had no burning throat except when I "went off the wagon" and did not follow the prescribed food combinations, had more energy, slept better than ever (my wife says that I don't snore now), and just feel better about myself and my health.
In a nutshell, what Sherry recommends, is to 1. Limit or eliminate processed foods 2. Limit the consumption of meat 3. Eat fruits by themselves and especially not at meals with meat 4. Eat mostly fruits and vegetables (I try to eat most of them raw) 5. Combine foods at meals so that digestion is healthy instead of over-producing stomach acid caused by eating proteins with carbohydrates and other improper combinations.
The intent of the program is to get our bodies to be pH ALKALINE instead of ACID. Alkalinity promotes good health, while acidity in our bodies is very unhealthy for many reasons. I don't know Sherry, receive nothing for this testimonial, but I strongly believe in it.
http://www.greattastenopain.com The free trial is a good introduction to the benefits that are possible from the program.
Best wishes for better digestion and no more pain,
HDViolist

Hellokitty
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   Posted 8/22/2009 11:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi ya,

Just saw this thread. I have bought that great taste no pain book. I t really does help and does help reduce the D. but as for being perfect we can never expect that. Im now trying raw foods but it is dumb to think there is a cure for this. there is no actual cure we will have this forever. all we can do is help to improve our symptoms. and you can do this with diet. but its not a cure you will always have to be careful.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication-  500mg pentasa,  250 mg  asacol (every evening)
Diet- Back on the raw foods.
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity
 

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I have deleted all the one only posts and only left those of legitimate members.
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Crohn's Disease for over 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium  w/Vit D, and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
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