Surgery: Does Anyone Know ???

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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 10/17/2008 11:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Do they use both a nasogastral tube for the gut AND intubate for your breathing as well?? One down your snozz the other down your throat?? Just curious.
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gachrons
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   Posted 10/17/2008 11:21 AM (GMT -7)   
No not on me anyway seems one was enough I did have a oxygen thing on nose when I woke up and they took that off as soon as I woke up . Is it you that is going for surgery soon been wandering about you . How are you doing?lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


Zanne
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   Posted 10/17/2008 11:31 AM (GMT -7)   
I have had 3 resections. The first 2 I had an N/G tube but not for the last one. All 3 were done by the same surgeon in the same hospital. But standard protocol had changed so he no longer used the N/G tube and would only put it down if you needed it afterward. This was 11 years ago, so maybe things have changed again. I wasn't intubated that I know about, or at least not when I woke up.
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CD 19 years offically, 29 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Symptoms constantly but all tests show only minor ulcerations. Currently having multiple episodes of gastritis with no known cause.


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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 10/17/2008 1:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes and no, Gachrons. I am going to Mayo, I leave Sunday morning. First appointment is at 1 PM on Monday. But I cancelled the surgeries. They are insisting that I go thru the 8 Day In-House Smoking Cessation program BEFORE the surgeries rather than AFTER which is what I requested scheduling for. They are just setting me up for failure to expect me to pay for the 8 Day Smoking Cessation then turn me loose on a Friday afternoon to stew and panic before surgeries on Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, sure, like I'm not gonna smoke up a storm that weekend!!! They are out of their gourds!

So I'm going to consult w/a colorectal surgeon. I already know and LIKE the gyn/onco surgeon A LOT but I haven't found a colorectal surgeon who sees eye to eye w/me on just how carried away he/she is gonna get w/"the knife". Also having a few other things checked out then next Friday, a week from today, its into the smoker's "dry out tank" for 8 days. And then home. Cross your fingers for me! If this in-house smoking cessation program doesn't work .... there "ain't" no hope for me. Its more critical that I quit smoking than that I have the resection and ovaries removed. They can wait. I sure can't afford to go thru the in-house program TWICE. Insurance doesn't pick up much of the tab.
 
I was just curious 'cause I was reading about LAM (laryngeal airway mask) for surgery this morning.


Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Post Edited (CrohnieToo) : 10/17/2008 2:32:56 PM (GMT-6)


Nanners
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   Posted 10/17/2008 1:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I did have a NG tube for both my resections, my last being 3 years ago. And I was intubated while I was out, but they removed it before I woke up. As for the NG I hear alot of doctors are no longer using them. I guess my surgeon is just being safe than sorry.

I quit smoking myself cold turkey about 8 1/2 years ago. It was pretty tough though, I had smoked for 29 years, but I did it. Funny thing is because of the hell I went thru trying to quit, it made me never want to go thru that again, so that helped me to stay quit.

Hopefully this program will do the trick for you. Will definetly keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


chroniemomx2
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   Posted 10/17/2008 2:03 PM (GMT -7)   
My understanding is that if they put you out with general anesthesia, that you have to be intubated. I have always been for my abscess drainages. But it goes in when you are asleep and out before you wake up.

I hope everything goes well for you. I'll be thinking about you. Looking forward to First Wok when you get back. :)

Sniper
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   Posted 10/17/2008 2:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Hope you can beat the smoking habit C2. I know its tough. I agree about the surgeon too. Wish there was a way to have surgery pain free and still awake. I would like to see what they are doing. It would also be helpful, at crucial junctures , to be able to reach out and get a hand full of the surgeons privates and say,,we arn't going to hurt each other,, are we doc ?
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gachrons
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   Posted 10/17/2008 2:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi so glad you gave a update I was wandering about you. You can do it and I never knew they had a dry up tank for smokers I might have gone to one myself .Do they do the patch or gum? Sounds like your covering all your bases . If you quit before then you will have a easier time of it while in the hospital. Wishing you the very best and got the fingers crossed. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


CrohnieToo
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   Posted 10/18/2008 10:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Ah! Sniper! A man after my own heart!!!

Gachrons, check out Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Smoking Cessation. It tells you quite a bit about the program. Its the whole enchilada. Patch or gum or pills or ... private and group counseling, exercise, CO2 checks, etc. etc. they throw everything they have up their sleeve at you as needed.

First Wok???!!!! Yummy! Yes! I'm game. Any time!

Nanners, my first resection I told them no NG tube, that if I woke up w/one I would pull it out myself! Since I'd already done so once locally they believed me. I had a tube out my left side going to the pump. Piece of cake. Not even a tiny scar left from where it was. Its the ONLY way to go in my book! By the way, I've smoked 2 packs a day for 52 years. I've gotten down to 10 or less a day for as much as 18 months w/o "assists" but can never quite give it up completely. Chantix was my BIGGEST MISTAKE. Prior to Chantix it was the habit, not the addiction. Now it is both, thanks to Chantix. My doctor was just saying the other day he's had one other patient who ran into the same thing w/Chantix.
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.


Joie1
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   Posted 10/18/2008 12:29 PM (GMT -7)   
I had the NG in before surgeries: 4, 3, and 2. Woke up after surgery 1 with it in. I still woke up with the oxygen tube in my other nostril.
27/f/CD. 4 CD related surgeries: 2 resections, 2 JP drains, 3 NG tubes, many absesses (including the one my most recent surgery scraped off my ovary) and fistulas.
Currently trying to figure out hip and knee joint pain.
Have lost in these surgeries: appendix, 8 in. intestine, R fallopian tube, gallbladder, 10 in. intestine
Dx'd: February 2007.
Pentasa (and much mental screaming)


randynoguts
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   Posted 10/18/2008 4:48 PM (GMT -7)   
havent had an NG tube in years.. they used to use them all the time for several days after. but it seems that unless your puking up stomach contents it doesnt really matter.. good luck... maybe check your ins. again. i think most FEHBP have to cover stop smoking stuff. i know mine does at 100% as many times as it takes. its an HMO and even gives people not in the plan the chance to get in the programs for free or a small fee.
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pb4
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   Posted 10/18/2008 5:59 PM (GMT -7)   
C2, I just want to wish you the best of luck with everything and let you know you are in my thoughts....((((((((HUGS)))))))

:)
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