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kimmy2
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   Posted 10/18/2008 1:15 PM (GMT -7)   
I've gotten thrush in my mouth from all the anti biotics,flagyl, and steroids I was on in the hospital.  I came home with Nystatin liquid mouth med, because I'm very allergic to the newer Diflucan medicine.  I can't swallow the Nystatin I just swish and spit it.  My problem is I can't seem to get rid of it.  I've been very sick to my stomach and I guess maybe the trush is in my stomach also.  My dr is out of town until the 21st so I'm just dealing for now.  Does anyone know of any homeopathic cures I might try for this, or any other advice? 
 
Appreciate the help.
love to all
diagnosed CD '03 after suffering for 10 yrs.
 
re-section surgery '05, Chronic Pancreas problems, joint and muscle issues (from Remicade)
 
meds been on-Asacol, Pentasa, Lialda, Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, Methotrexate, Rowasa, Prednisone, to many pain meds to list
 
Currently on-Cimzia, Cymbalta, and Klonopin(RLS)


spookyh
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   Posted 10/18/2008 1:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Do you take any probiotics? Either that or eating yogurt might help.

MAG102886
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   Posted 10/18/2008 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   
When I was in the hospital I got what my doctor called "fuzzy tounge" from the steriods and he gave me these tablets that you let dissolve in your mouth 4 times a day and they actually taste pretty good haha.  Its called Clotimazole.  Im not sure if I had the same thing you have but it was gone within a couple days with the tablets.

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Surgeries:2 Bowel Resections, Gallbladder Removed.
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kimmy2
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   Posted 10/18/2008 1:29 PM (GMT -7)   
I've started taking Culturelle probiotics for gut bacteria, but don't know if that'll work for thrush.
diagnosed CD '03 after suffering for 10 yrs.
 
re-section surgery '05, Chronic Pancreas problems, joint and muscle issues (from Remicade)
 
meds been on-Asacol, Pentasa, Lialda, Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, Methotrexate, Rowasa, Prednisone, to many pain meds to list
 
Currently on-Cimzia, Cymbalta, and Klonopin(RLS)


Keeper
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   Posted 10/18/2008 2:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Three drops of tea tree oil in warm water - use as a gargle. For system candida, the lactobacillus probiotic supplements help as does Saccheromyces boulardii - a non-pathogenic yeast that out-competes candida albicans. All these are available in the health food stores. You should also make sure to take a good lactobacillus supplement. L. reuteri should be one of the species or L. casei GG (note there are several strains of L. casei - make sure it is the GG strain).

EMom
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   Posted 10/18/2008 2:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Kimmy, with all you've been through, consider trying a stronger, multi-strain probiotic. From what I could read about Culturelle, it has just one strain and 10 billion per capsule. There are many brands more potent--Udo's, Theralac, VSL#3--just to name a few. You could also consider taking more than one per day until your thrush clears. Probiotics should help your thrush, but you need way more than you're getting! (during and after my son was on an antibiotic I bumped his up to around 600 billion from capsules and he was getting an additional amount from yogurt)

Oh, and yes, I just saw what Keeper wrote. I'm going to ditto the Saccharomyces boulardii recommendation. Read your probiotic lables carefully. You may be able to find a combo brand with S. boulardii in it. If not just purchase it separately.

Also, home made yogurt is a great way to get more beneficial bacteria each day (one cup = 700 billion beneficial bacteria!). It's cheap medicine! smilewinkgrin
Mom to 16 year old son diagnosed in June, 2007.
Omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, vit. C, calcium w/D3, a good multivitamin and SCD legal yogurt
Started The Maker's Diet in Sept. '07. Gradually learning/using more SCD recipes, too! (cooking challenged)


spookyh
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   Posted 10/18/2008 2:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Keeper's suggestion reminded me of another one: Grapefruit Seed Extract.

kim123
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   Posted 10/18/2008 2:37 PM (GMT -7)   
I would also avoid all grains and sugar, (both processed and foods with high natural sugar content) until you get it under control. As well, olive leaf extract, oregano oil, or caprylic acid are 3 strong "natural" antifungals. Apple cider vinegar is also antifungal. If you want to beat this thing naturally, you have to stop feeding the yeast(fungus) and starve it by avoiding the fungus-feeding foods. No pain, no gain.............

kimmy2
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   Posted 10/18/2008 3:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone for great suggestions, I don't know what to try first. I'll let ya'll know how it goes!
diagnosed CD '03 after suffering for 10 yrs.
 
re-section surgery '05, Chronic Pancreas problems, joint and muscle issues (from Remicade)
 
meds been on-Asacol, Pentasa, Lialda, Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, Methotrexate, Rowasa, Prednisone, to many pain meds to list
 
Currently on-Cimzia, Cymbalta, and Klonopin(RLS)


ivy6
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   Posted 10/18/2008 3:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Gargling with salty water might help your mouth, between Nilstat dosages.
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BuzyBum
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   Posted 10/18/2008 4:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I've just spent 16 days in hospital and I've had thrush in my mouth too from the antibiotics etc (took Nystan) but I didn't realise steroids can make your tongue fuzzy as well? I'm on 40mg a day at the moment. Might ask about that stuff you put on your tongue if it doesn't clear up, because maybe it's not the thrush that's come back or abit of both.

Hope you get yours sorted, it's really annoying isn't it?


Margie11
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   Posted 10/18/2008 9:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Grapefruit seed extract may strip to many good "bugs", so, I'd save it as a last resort. I have used most of these ideas in the past with great success. All I can add is, this may be a good time to use an enteric coated probiotic, in addition to another type, and/ or yogurt. Good luck, I remember this was quite miserable, and I had new dentures as well. Here's hoping and praying you get relief soon.


Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
 
                                              Margie11


Keeper
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   Posted 10/18/2008 9:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Watch out for grapefruit seed extract. It can irritate your mouth and gut in your situation. Same for hydrogen peroxide - another gargle for thrush. The tea tree oil is supposed to be non-irritating (mileage may vary). If you don't have sores in your mouth then the grapefruit seed extract is ok. Just don't swallow it.

gachrons
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   Posted 10/19/2008 5:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Well which cure have you treated yourself with and is it working? lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,and still alive.lol gail


Margie11
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   Posted 10/19/2008 7:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Gail,

Are you always looking for that "cure" LOL. You would be suprised how many symptoms respond to Tea Tree oil, oregano oil, and caprylic acid. If you find that "cure" please let me know, I'll make you a rich woman. yeah
 
Keeper, 
I love the synchronized posts, they look as though we were conspiring. turn

Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
 
                                              Margie11

Post Edited (Margie11) : 10/19/2008 8:06:51 AM (GMT-6)


kimmy2
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   Posted 10/19/2008 12:38 PM (GMT -7)   
I've started with the salt water swishes as I have not been well enough to go out. This is the first time dealing with being sick since the seperation from my husband. He never gave me credit for being able to handle anything on my own, so it's kinda satisfying to prove him wrong. I'm stronger than even I knew, I just have to remember that!! I plan on trying the tea tree oil tomorrow, god willing, and I'll let ya'll know how it goes! Thanks for the well wishes and concern!!

love to all,
kimmy
diagnosed CD '03 after suffering for 10 yrs.
 
re-section surgery '05, Chronic Pancreas problems, joint and muscle issues (from Remicade)
 
meds been on-Asacol, Pentasa, Lialda, Remicade, Humira, 6-MP, Methotrexate, Rowasa, Prednisone, to many pain meds to list
 
Currently on-Cimzia, Cymbalta, and Klonopin(RLS)

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