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Nanners
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   Posted 10/20/2008 6:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Is soy a no no for Crohnies?  Just wondering because I noticed something wierd the other day.  I only eat breakfast at home on Saturday's & Sunday's, because during the workweek I don't eat until I get to work, to avoid any emergency bathroom visits.  But my husband found this oil that has alot Omega's in it, but it is soy based. 
 
I noticed on Saturday that I woke up feeling great, no tummy problems, nothing.  But after I ate breakfast that my husband had cooked using a small amount of this oil, my stomach got really upset. 
 
I should explain that I eat like two breakfasts on the weekends.  When I first get up I eat a small quesadilla and 1/2 banana to put something in my stomach to take my meds.  These foods never upset my stomach.  But after I ate the second breakfast a couple hours later, my stomach has been getting sick.  So yesterday I asked my husband to use another oil (Canola oil) we had in the house, so after eating with this other oil, my stomach was okay.
 
Do soy based products bother any of you?
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


FitzyK23
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   Posted 10/20/2008 8:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Nope, I use a lot of soy to avoid dairy.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


aoccc
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   Posted 10/20/2008 9:13 AM (GMT -7)   
yeah soy doesn't like me either but it likes me more than dairy does :(
SCD since 01, remission since 01, occasional Arby's breaks :)


mj8dokken
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   Posted 10/20/2008 9:43 AM (GMT -7)   
I haven't noticed a problem with soy myself. My cousin has IBS and she can't handle soy. Guess it's another thing that differs from person to person.

Bad flare May '06 resulted in CD diagnosis
 
Asacol: 2400 mg/day; Prednisone: 1.25 mg/day; Entocort: 9mg/day; Metronidazol
Started seeing a Naturopath-Castor Oil Packs, Liquid B Complex, Floragen, Ribes Nigrum, Herbal GI, Chlorella
 
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Dree514
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   Posted 10/20/2008 10:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Soy doesn't seem to give me any problems but I am not really a fan of it.  Dairy on the other hand does but I found a solution...Lactose Free!!! it is awesome.  Land O' Lakes and Deans both make one, I tend to stay away from generic brands just because they don't really ever seem to taste the same

d2parrotperson
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   Posted 10/20/2008 10:45 AM (GMT -7)   
I found a good paper on soy. It has an awful high concentration of estrogen in it. The article is named, "Should we worry about soya in our food?" I found it on google. It seems that most soy is very bad for us. I suggest you type this title into google and read the article. It is several pages long. Maybe it will answer some of your ?'s.

Also, I have read alot of bad things about canola oil. I read it is made from rape seeds, adn according to 2 papers I've read, is actually manufacturing waste. Maybe you should look into that as well.
150mg Azathioprine, Lomotil, Iron, Nexium 2/day, Fentanyl patch, Oxycodone, Baclofin
Crohn's, Fibromyalgia, Several bulging discs, Bone spurs, Osteoarthritis, Osteopenia, Reflux, Stenosis, Strictures, Dengenerating facet joints
2 resections
 
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klsygal
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   Posted 10/20/2008 10:49 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi there:

Soy is important for women but I don't know how much is "too much."  I will do some research and report back to the group.  I suspect that moderation is the key, as usual.

Have a great day in America!

klsygal


 
Concerned friend of a Crohnie.  Trying to support him in his life and treatment.
 
"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt."
Shakespeare - Measure for Measure
 
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yogaprof
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   Posted 10/20/2008 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
it is a common food for intolerance, but I eat it and was tested for allergies for it and had no problem.
49 y/o woman.  Diagnosed 4/06 after colonscopy, SBFT, CT-scan all showed crohns. 3 months later, after pred and remicade, all tests showed no crohns. December '06 had adhesions cut through a laparoscopy. Now taking Glycolax, Ultra Fiber Plus, Florastor, and DHEA. Have become gluten-free diet per naturopath's tests.


Nanners
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   Posted 10/20/2008 11:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks guys for your thoughts. I been talking to my husband about trying extra virgin olive oil instead and think that might be our next step (he's such a cheapskate and thinks it too expensive:). I wonder about the estrogen connection too, I wonder if its too much for me because I take a synthetic estrogen because I had a complete hysterectomy. Or it could just be like one of you said, what works for one doesn't work for all.

I liked the idea of the soy based cooking oil because this one has Omega's in it. But I recently tried a Omega 3, 6, 9 and it gave me bad cramps, so maybe that's the connection, not the soy.

Oh well, who knows, guess its just trial and error. Thanks again for your thoughts.
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 10/20/2008 11:53 AM (GMT -7)   
soy is not a health food. it is the number 1 genetically modified crop. we have been lied to about the benefits of soy. yes it has a bunch of protein in it, but when you consider the negatives it has (i'll only list a few) and that you can get better quality proteins elsewhere, there is no reason to consume it.

soy increases estrogen levels. it is has anti nutrients which rob your body of minerals and the such. to counter that it has to be fermented, which the soy they feed us is not.

asians eat fermented soy in the form of miso and natto, and it is a condiment, not a main part of the meal like it is here. if you do eat soy, eat the fermented forms only and in small portions.

soy milk is the processed waste product from tofu. think about that.

i stay way away from soy.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


Nanners
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   Posted 10/20/2008 12:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Harry!!! I figured that it was the soy in the oil that was bothering me. Because I felt fine until I ate what I always eat on Saturdays/Sundays, that was cooked in the soy based oil.
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


FitzyK23
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   Posted 10/20/2008 4:59 PM (GMT -7)   
My husband just sent me a link today with all the dangers of soy, even though I eat it all the time. I don't know how reliable his sources are though.

http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?q=soy&k=soy


27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.

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