how to get enough protein in diet?

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kyle Nelson
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   Posted 10/20/2008 4:19 PM (GMT -7)   
i am severely lactose intolerant, have a gluten allergy, i dont digest any meats very well, and generally, high fiber foods do not do well with me either. i really dont know what i could do. any thoughts?

ivy6
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   Posted 10/20/2008 4:30 PM (GMT -7)   
* drink a supplement / complete food. Fresubin might work for you, as it contains no milk products
* use soy or rice milk. Perhaps make a smoothie with milk, peanut butter, and a banana.
* breakfast - try semolina cooked in soy milk
* other meals - try boiled or poached eggs
* boil bones and drink the resulting stock
* If you can find a copy of Mrs Beeton, the book has a very good chapter on invalid cooking. There are ways of preparing meat that enable you to get the protein without actually eating the meat. You might be able to find similar information in another old cooking book.
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ivy6
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   Posted 10/20/2008 4:32 PM (GMT -7)   
* I forgot to add baked custard!
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ivy6
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   Posted 10/20/2008 4:33 PM (GMT -7)   
ps. Here's the recipe for beef tea - classic invalid food - to get you started.
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spookyh
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   Posted 10/20/2008 4:38 PM (GMT -7)   
I drink Boost with high protein. It's gluten and lactose free. One 8 ounce bottle has 15g of protein, which is 30% of the recommended daily value. The bad side is that it's loaded with sugar, which is the reason I'm going to quit drinking it soon.

ivy6
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   Posted 10/20/2008 4:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Here are Mrs Beeton's invalid recipes. I knew I'd find them online if I looked hard enough!

Hope they help,

Ivy.
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Keeper
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   Posted 10/20/2008 4:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I can't tolerate peanut butter - it causes inflammation. I use almond butter instead. You might be able to use Lactaid milk (comes pretreated with lactaid enzymes so there's no lactose). It has more protein than the veggie versions of milk. You might want to try adding variety to your diet as you are able to tolerate it. There is a description of a diet plan called the Specific Carbohydrate Diet here. It has a set of tables about halfway down the page listing acceptable foods for different levels of tolerance. It lets you add foods as you feel that you are able to tolerate them. It addresses your restrictions of no gluten and no lactose and has a recipe page as well. It has a detailed discussion of what foods are ok for those restrictions.

kyle Nelson
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   Posted 10/20/2008 4:54 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks! ya i dont know what it is but lactaid does it to me too. i do drink soy milk. eggs are sort of touch and go, i can usually eat one and be fine, but two or more sets me off. i only get about 20 grams of protein in my diet as it is, and i know that i cant function/attempt to gain weight back until i get 50-60g per day in me. ill check this stuff out though, again, thank you.

Riss
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   Posted 10/20/2008 8:56 PM (GMT -7)   
You can add quinoa to your diet.  It's a grain kinda like couscous but is wheat/gluten free and has 5g per serving (serving size is only 1/4 cup).  You can get it at Trader Joes.  It's great to add to main dishes.

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   Posted 10/20/2008 9:35 PM (GMT -7)   
kyle Nelson said...
i am severely lactose intolerant, have a gluten allergy, i dont digest any meats very well, and generally, high fiber foods do not do well with me either. i really dont know what i could do. any thoughts?



I too was severely lactose intolerant, I found using lactaid products worked well then I found a great probiotic that I take daily called primadophilus reuteri made by natures way which happens to aid with lactose intolerance and now I no longer have to use any lactaid products plus the probiotics have been beneficial with my IBS and crohn's symptoms, you should really look into it.

My GI told me to take fibre supplements daily and indefinitely, those to have helped lots with my symptoms and I'm even able to tolerate eating fibreous foods...it takes the system time to adjust to fibre via food or supplements, the supplements caused me excess bloating and gas which I already had tons of so it just added to it BUT after 3 months no more bloating and very little gas so it was well worth it...it's normal for fibre to cause issues even for healthy people it's just until your system adjusts, so it's important to start with a small amount and increase only if necessary after your system has adjusted to the initial amount...and drink lots of water with it too.

You'd actually be very surprised at how many items you'd never imagine has lactose in it, like certain nacho chips, itchiban beef flavored soup, the list goes on, you really have to read lables or try the primadophilus.

Good sources of protein are chicken and fish which I eat on a regular basis, you could also try protein shakes as well.

BTW, lactose is already broken down in yogurt, plus just like probiotics, yogurt has live bacterial cultures (good/friendly bacteria) to help with gut flora...the good thing about the primadophilus that I mentioned above is it has guaranteed intestinal release which is likely why it aids well with lactose issues and IBS and my crohn's.

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spookyh
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   Posted 10/20/2008 9:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Homemade yogurt is even better, because you can ferment it 24 hours to really whack the lactose out of it. Commercial yogurt is only fermented for 4 hours I think.

pb4
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   Posted 10/20/2008 9:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Previous studies have shown that people who have lactase deficiency are better able to digest the lactose present in yogurt than the lactose in milk. This is because yogurt contains bacteria (used in the fermentation process) that make an enzyme called beta-galactosidase (beta-gal) that can digest lactose. To evaluate the ability of beta-gal to digest lactose present in yogurt and lactose from other sources, 22 people with lactase deficiency were examined. Each subject consumed 10 different test meals containing yogurt, milk and different amounts of added lactose. Since the amount of hydrogen present in a person's breath increases when lactose is eaten and not digested, lactose digestion was evaluated by measuring breath hydrogen as well as by assessing symptoms. The test meals containing yogurt were better tolerated (produced fewer and less severe symptoms of gas and diarrhea) than those containing milk. When additional lactose was included along with the yogurt, the beta-gal enzyme in the yogurt did not improve the digestion of the added lactose. It is concluded that symptoms of lactase deficiency are minimal when yogurt is eaten by itself or with a meal. However, when additional lactose from other food sources is present, symptoms of lactase deficiency will increase and are related to the amount of lactose consumed.

A lot of people swear by Kefir it's a cultured, enzyme-rich food filled with friendly micro-organisms that help balance your "inner ecosystem." More nutritious and therapeutic than yogurt, it supplies complete protein, essential minerals, and valuable B vitamins.

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Post Edited (pb4) : 10/20/2008 11:02:01 PM (GMT-6)

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