Anyone for a Toilet Tax?

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Mormor Vicky
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   Posted 11/20/2008 12:33 PM (GMT -7)   
 
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24670784-2,00.html
Vicky / 48 years old
DX'd with Crohn's during a resection August 2006
DX'd with Steriod induced Diabetes November 2006
Considered in Clinical remission but have minor signs of disease activity
 
Daughter (27) also has Crohn's since she was 12.
 
Currently on 4000mg of Pentasa only for Crohn's
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ivy6
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   Posted 11/20/2008 2:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Makes sense to me, given the water shortage we have in Australia.

However, I think the separating toilet would only work for "normal" people who do solid bms. I can't see how they could separate the average IBDers liquid poos from urine, and we really do need water to rinse the stuff out of the toilet bowl.

Maybe there could be compassionate exemptions for people like us.

In the mean-time, we have an ultra water efficient toilet *and* we have a rainwater tank to supply the water to flush it.

Ivy.
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LMills
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   Posted 11/20/2008 8:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with ivy. I think it's a good idea, BUT there are some people like with IBD/IBS who can't just use the bathroom and not flush. Nor can their BM's be separated from urine and/or blood.
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone(down to 10 mg), pentasa, bentyl as needed, prilosec, tandem plus, humira, and good probiotics
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
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broomhilda
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   Posted 11/20/2008 9:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I like the rainwater idea, that's useful and maybe using grey water such is wasted when the washing machine empties, however, I can guarantee you everyone in this house EXPECTS me to flush the toilet. I also think a lot of people will use the great outdoors to relieve themselves to avoid this tax just like they dump trash to avoid having to pay to have it removed. So they need to address people relieving themselves outside to avoid unsanitary conditions that would further promote disease. Not an easy solution is it?
Dx'd Jan'06, 1st Resection 7/06, Humira, Imuran, B12 injections, Nexium, Lexapro, Nulev, Glucosamine, Multi-Vitamin, Calcium Citrate, Ultracet. Secondary conditions: Psorasis, Osteoarthritis, Fibromyalgia, Lactose Intolerant, gallstones, kidney stones & peri-menopausal.


Sniper
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   Posted 11/20/2008 10:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Bring back the outhouse. Pooh all you want tax free...
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randynoguts
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   Posted 11/21/2008 10:12 PM (GMT -7)   
im all for taxing the government every time i use the toilet. i could be rich! ;-)
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LMills
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   Posted 11/21/2008 11:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Never a shortage on water but very possible to run short on water we can actually use...
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone(down to 10 mg), pentasa, bentyl as needed, prilosec, tandem plus, humira, and good probiotics
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
http://weblog.xanga.com/harlequin_garret


randynoguts
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   Posted 11/22/2008 2:42 AM (GMT -7)   
see, thats been my theory all along... instead of fighting global warming we should be directing the money to devlope giant desalinization systems.. suck up the ocean water and make it into drinking water. it could be pumped to all the desert etc.. and grow food! plus would keep the ocean levels in check.. what a concept. ... and i can continue to flush my toidy!
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FitzyK23
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   Posted 11/22/2008 7:20 AM (GMT -7)   
I didn't read the article yet but my brother's college has a neat system. The flusher can be pushed down or up to flush. If you have a number 1 you push down and it flushes with minimal water. If you have a number 2 you flush up and it flushes with full power.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 11/22/2008 7:30 AM (GMT -7)   
My family farm still has an outhouse that is useable...
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ivy6
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   Posted 11/22/2008 3:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Kasper, you're joking. Come to Australia and visit and see for yourself. Believe me. There is a critical water shortage right NOW. There are towns not far from where I live who are a couple of months away from running out of water completely, and they have * absolutely no idea* what they're going to do if we don't get decent rain soon. It's not as if they can get water from anywhere else nearby, because we're all running short... hence all these ideas on how to save as much water as possible.

Fitzy, the toilets you mentioned are standard here already. As far as I know, they're also compulsory in all new buildings. I'm surprised they're not standard there - they save heaps of water.

I really worry about this idea of a toilet tax. I think it would be really cruel if they didn't give people like us exemptions. And it's not just the toilet, either: we often need extra or longer showers to clean ourselves up, do more laundry because we soil our clothes, etc etc etc. And those of us who are quite sick tend to be too unwell to cart buckets of water around the house and garden to reuse our grey water, which is what many healthier people here (and me, when I am strong enough) are doing already... so we end up using more water everywhere, not just in the toilet...

*sigh*

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FitzyK23
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   Posted 11/23/2008 9:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I agree Ivy - I would hope there would be some kind of medical exemption.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.

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