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stephx
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   Posted 11/22/2008 2:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello everyone. For about two days now I have been having little bowel movements of D. It didn't really concernec me at first but, now I am wondering what I should do? I just had my bowel resection surgery about 2 1/2 weeks ago. Of course my bowel movement started out as D at first due to surgery. My surgeon had me on flagyl an antibitotic for thirty days, but I have stop taking it for about a week now, I was just unsure of taking it for that long. When I was taking it as perscribed my stools were coming out very dark and had  an awkward smell, and were the consistency of soft served ice cream. Now that I haven't been taking it my stools were gradually becoming formed again, and Thursday afternoon they were fully formed. Thursday for dinner also I had some spaghetti and garlic bread. about two hours later I had a cramping pushing feeling down in my stomach, that was the start of my D. smhair Yesterday I had went to the bathroom twice with light brownish D, and today I have gone three times since this morning. My bum is getting sore, and everytime the urge comes to have a bowel movement its that same awkard cramping pushy feeling. I was wondering should I take some immodium anit-D medicine and see how that helps or just go ahead and start back on my antibiotic, because I'm getting kind of worried and I don't want to end up with a c-diff infection. I was also considering getting me some yogurt that contains the live cultures (good bacteria) to try and offset  the bad in my gut. Oh yeah I also got a little constipated at the beginning of the week and had to take one dulcolax laxative, and I was able to go a few hours later, I don't think the D is from that though because I had taken that on Monday. So should I try some immodium and yogurt and see how that works or should I start back my antibiotic, I am really against them because of the damage that comes from taking them. I just really need some advice on what I should do? All advice is appreciated, THANKS. smilewinkgrin

Zanne
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   Posted 11/22/2008 2:21 PM (GMT -7)   
C-Diff is not something you want to mess around with. I have had it twice and it was not pleasant. Both times it cleared up quickly once Dx, but there are others here who suffered with it for months, even with treatment. Personally, I would start the antibiotic back up. If that doesn't help I would call my doctors office and see if they have an on call doc for the weekend to get advice. You have just had major surgery and you don't want to go messing around with your intestines. They are still healing and you don't want to take a chance that something could slow down that process.
Suzanne

CD 19 years offically, 29 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Symptoms constantly but all tests show only minor ulcerations. Currently having multiple episodes of gastritis with no known cause.


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gachrons
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   Posted 11/22/2008 2:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Steph I really don't know but if you were ok on the anti ,maybe you should continue. What was the reason your Dr. put you on them? lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


stephx
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   Posted 11/22/2008 2:36 PM (GMT -7)   
My surgeon had me on it in the hospital. I don't know if it was a precautionary step or what, but that is what had me thinking. When I was in the hospital they were alos giving me a med called tervacet and IVmed that was an anti-inflammatory med. I got a shot of that like every couple of hours through my IV, it burned when they shot it in. Well when the newbie nurse did it it burned, felt like my arm was on fire. However my night nurse had said he diluted it with saline so it didn't burned as much when he did it. My newbie nurse shot it in concentrated and then flushed saline behind it. Honestly , I really don't know why he put me on the flagyl for thirty days, but I think it was just a precautionary thing.

gachrons
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   Posted 11/22/2008 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Steph maybe give it some time. I find if I eat a banana it helps keep me solid I still have D sometimes but a few times a day sometimes .You could call your Dr. Mon. and ask what you should do if you do try the probiotics just go slow. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


stephx
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   Posted 11/22/2008 4:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Okay Ga. I didn,t thought about bananas, I was constantly eating them when I first got out the hospital, and was at home my first week. Maybe the bananas helped me, i'll start them back right away, matter of fact I'm going to the store to get me some now. Oh yeah, I am still gaining weight pretty fast too. I go back to my surgeon on monday for a final check up I'll mention some of these symptoms to him also.

MMMNAVY
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   Posted 11/22/2008 4:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Go back on the antibodic. Please follow your doctors orders, furthermore that antibodic is also used as a treatment for crohns.
 
Do not eat yogert until at least 3 months after a resection, my GI says that since they contain active cultures it is not good for your guts until it is healed.
 
 


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Post Edited (MMMNAVY) : 11/22/2008 5:19:47 PM (GMT-7)


dunny2
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   Posted 11/22/2008 5:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Stephen,
Just to add to the above advice, I would not take imodium at this point. It is important that doctors know exactly how your bowel is
functioning, by stopping the diarrhea you may cover up some symptoms that the docs need to be aware of....
Vicky

Too many years with CD
Two bowel resections, several obstructions.
Fibromyalgia and recently diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis
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ski bum
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   Posted 11/22/2008 7:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Stephx, I agree that you should go back on the antibiotic, and call your doctor on Monday. Diarrhea was my biggest problem after my resection. My doctor had me take fiber pills (1 pill 3x/day) and imodium 1/2 hour before meals. I tried that for about 5 weeks (with some success, but I didn't like taking the imodium every day), and then he prescribed Questran, which binds with the bile salts (that would normally be absorbed by the terminal ileum, part of which was resected). Questran did the trick - I take 1/2 packet (powder) mixed with water every morning. If you had part of your terminal ileum removed, ask your surgeon about Questran. It's been a life saver for me. I also take 1/2 to 1 imodium before dinner if I'm going out for dinner so I don't have to worry about poop issues when I'm out socially. Also, watch what you eat. I overdid it after my surgery, wanting to eat everything I had been deprived of for so many months. I found if I stuck to simple foods like cheese and crackers, chicken, yogurt (didn't know about the problem with the active cultures), ground beef, rice, bananas, apple sauce, peanut butter and toast, I felt better. Be patient. My doctor told me it takes 6 - 9 months for you body to adjust to its missing part and that turneds. I'm 7 months out from surgery and feel great (finally).

For your sore bum, I found that taking a sitz bath after each BM real helpful. A sitz bath is a plastic tub thing that I bought at Walmart. You fill a bag (looks like an IV bag) with warm-hot water and sit in the tub while the warm water flows in to keep the water at a warm temperature. It's good for healing, pain relief and keeping clean. You can try using tucks wipes after each BM and use an over the counter ointment like Desitin. Also, your doctor can prescribe a steroid ointment or suppository if necessary.

I hope you feel better!
50 y/o F. CD dx'd Aug 05. Initially on Pentasa, then Imuran 125 mg. Started Humira (very reluctantly) on 10/24/07. Ileocolectomy 4/08. Back on Pentasa as maintenance.


stephx
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   Posted 11/22/2008 9:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Okay I guess i'll go back on the antibitotic and see if it clears up. I have gone a total of five times today, I am getting nervous but I hope that it clears up when I start back on the antibiotic.

gachrons
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   Posted 11/23/2008 2:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Steph how are you doing today? I was on pred. after my operation for a couple of months to wean off it so I didn't do the antibotics .At least you can talk to your Dr. about how things are going . I just did as my Dr.'s had advised. My surgeon said to try Imuran but it gave me a rash so I had to go off it. Don't stress about it too much . lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


stephx
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   Posted 11/23/2008 12:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Last night I had to wake up and go to the bathroom, my bum is really sore. I am starting to use something called calmoseptine down below to try and help with the soreness. My rectum seems like its swollen at the opening, probably just from the irritation of the D. I'm really getting tired of it, aggravating. I'm supposed to take three flagyl in a twenty-four hour period, but I was trying to hold off until this morning but I couldn't so I when I woke up like 4 last night I had to take one, because I was miserable. It seems like its kicking in now a little only went twice so far today. I've tooken another antibiotic this morning with my breakfast, in which I had some sausage, bacon, and homemade french toast. I was sitting for a while looking at television and soon as I walked around the house some the second attack came, that wasn't to long ago. It seems when I am sitting everything is fine, but after eating and walking it comes. Right now I am going to fix me some lunch, probably eat a pb & J and a banana. I was thinking about taking at least one teaspoon of immodium to try and offset the D a little so my bum can rest. I am still taking my antibiotic though, do ya'll think that would be okay. Becuase I swear it seems like my rectum wants to turn inside out when I go, hurts like crazy. When I am not going however I am just fine.

spookyh
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   Posted 11/23/2008 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi stephx,

Have you thought about doing a diet change? Maybe there's something you've been eating that isn't agreeing with you. Maybe try gluten-free or lactose-free. Some people on the board have had good results with that. I'm about to venture onto the specific-carbohydrate diet myself. Processed meats like sausage don't agree with everyone (I love deli meats, but they seem to aggravate my crohn's). You could try keeping a food diary to see if your symptoms are worse after eating certain foods.

I sure hope this is just a temporary setback, and the flagyl straightens things out for you again!

gachrons
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   Posted 11/23/2008 4:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Steph I avoid things like bacon and still go low roughage. Be sure to tell your Dr. about these problems. Hope things improve. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


LiLa
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   Posted 11/24/2008 6:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Stephx

Sorry to hear you are going through this. The same thing happened to me after surgery but you should read ski bum's post again. As soon as i started taking Questran/Cholestyramine the D stopped. It's because i had the ileocecal valve removed and my surgery was in the terminal ileum. It gave me a new lwase of life and i have been in remission for nearly 10 yrs now. No pains either - it seemed to stop the pain also for me.

Best of luck,
Lila

stephx
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   Posted 11/24/2008 8:45 AM (GMT -7)   
My surgery took place in the exact same area the ileocolic area, my surgeon said he took out about 8 inches. I started back tacking my antibiotic and it seems that it really didn't help, maybe because antibiotics only prevent and treat infections, but I also was researching and I found out that my antibiotic is used to treat crohn's disease and anal fistures due to crohn's. I do have a little hemmroid down there, maybe this is why he pescribed me it. It seems that down there is a little irritated and swollen now from the diarrhea. I'm just really tired now, everything was going great and my stools were even completely formed last week, but the following movement was the start of the diarrhea. I have gone a total of about 15 times since friday and my bum is killing me. I go see my surgeon today at 2:30, I've called the nurse this morning in the office and asked if it was okay to take some immodium and she said that it was okay to take a half tablet at a time. She also said that he would see whats what when I get there, I am not letting him shove that little plastic tool up my rectum either. That is out of the picture, if he needs a stool sample then I will get it myself, I'll be glad to step into the restroom and get him one. Right now I'm on my way to Wal-Mart to get some immodium and go from there. I would gladly appreciate some more advice. THANKS

gachrons
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   Posted 11/24/2008 2:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Steph Hope all is well and let us know how your visit went. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail

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