Any of you had a hemmie operation?

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gachrons
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   Posted 12/11/2008 6:43 AM (GMT -7)   
devil  Since you all pretty well have gone threw evertything have you had a hemmie operation or when the overcounter meds don't work what is your next step ? Now this little problem is most internal or at least I think it is but slides out at times. Sorry about all the gore. So DR. thinks I should have a scope or has asked me it I want a operation on it. So can you give me some info and help here. thanks .lol gail
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spookyh
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   Posted 12/11/2008 8:19 AM (GMT -7)   
I haven't, but would like too. My doctor says no because it's harder for crohn's people to heal. However, I think the internal ones can often be "banded". It seems like that method wouldn't be tough on a crohn's person.

Osprey101
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   Posted 12/11/2008 8:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Infrared photocoagulation- no blood, no blades, no downtime, very little pain!

pb4
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   Posted 12/11/2008 11:54 AM (GMT -7)   
I had hemmie surgery although after the fact I found out it wasn't hemmies but instead perianal crohn's skin tags, they banded them while in a flare (large, hard and painful), this was 17 yrs ago, it was actually where my CD started and after the so called "hemmie surgery" they've since stayed in a flare (large, hard and painful) and shortly after that surgery was when CD hit me hard internally...I know the CD would have hit me internally regardless but having those skin tags mistaken for hemmies and getting them banded just caused me extra and irreversable problems so do make sure a good colon/rectom surgeon takes a look and confirms they are infact hemmies and not perianal crohn's skin tags (aka; elephant ears).

Just my warning from my own horrid experinace.

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bektold
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   Posted 12/11/2008 12:25 PM (GMT -7)   

I was diagnosed with Crohn's as a result of hemmie surgery.  A month after the surgery my incisions hadn't healed at all, and I ended up in a terrible flare.  One thing you should know is that the traditional surgery is very painful.  You don't realize it, but you use the muscles around the anus constantly.  The pelvic floor stablizes you, so any movement just about anywhere in your body will jostle the incisions, and that hurts.  It was a solid six weeks before I could stand to sit properly on my butt.

I will say, the one positive of this surgery was that even with the incisions, it was immediately less painful to have a bm than it had been with the hemmies.  Mine were really bad, I'd had them for a year, and they weren't responding to the hydrocortisone suppositories anymore.  Definitely talk to an experienced colon-rectal surgeon.  I had mine done by a general surgeon, and that was a big, big mistake.


gachrons
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   Posted 12/11/2008 3:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Well I went out and bought some wich hazel to try and I'am not even sure they have half the stuff mentioned here like a colon rectal surgoen or photocoagulation. Will see how things go and no one has mentioned having banding. So keep them coming if you have more info. The more the better .Has anyone used witch hazel I am going to goggle it .lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


pb4
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   Posted 12/11/2008 4:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I mentioned banding, but as I said above it was perianal crohn's skin tags they banded not realizing they were not hemmies they banded.
 
I've posted this link a few times here regarding the differences between hemmies and perianal crohn's skin tags...
 


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   Posted 12/11/2008 4:15 PM (GMT -7)   
I have an internal 'roid that is trying its hardest to stay external. I have really bad bronchitis and have been coughing like crazy lately. Woke at 4:30 this AM coughing and needing to P. While doing my P business I cough really hard and hear a loud SNAP from the vicinity of my rear deck. My internal-wanting-to-be-external roid BLEW its gasket. Took over 30 minutes to control the bleeding. This is the third time I have had a large, long bleed from this 'roid. I am FED up!!!
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andorable
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   Posted 12/11/2008 5:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Yep had hemmie surgery a few years back and all went ok. Mind you as i remember it was a bit painful afterwards, had to sit on cushions for a few days but with wonderful crohns I have hemmies again as Im sure we all do. So I wouldnt bother to get rid of them again since they keep springing up.
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gachrons
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   Posted 12/11/2008 5:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Ides I didn't know they could bleed like that but thanks for the heads up. Sounds like your in worse shape then me. I did try some witch hazel tonight which It says on the bottle good for bites and bruises and swellings too, is supposed to reduce inflamation was kind of weary that it would burn but it did give a nice warm feeling. What did you do to get the bleeding stopped apply some pressure? So with it busted like that would that be considered a fissure? Have you tried buckley's for that cough?Been thinking of you lately and let us know how your MRI went. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


spookyh
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   Posted 12/11/2008 11:17 PM (GMT -7)   
After finding some pictures of "elephant ears," I think I may have those instead of hemmies. Glad I learned that before doing anything drastic. Is there anyway to get rid of those suckers?

Nitroglycerin cream and 0.2% can be helpful for hemmies. I used to have some, and it really helped. Also burns, makes your heart pound, and your head throb for a few minutes after applying. It gets better after using it for a few days though.

I have HC Praxomine 2.5% right now. It also helps a bit, especially when my fissure acts up.

EDIT: I want my hemmies atomized. It says it vaporizes them smhair.

http://www.proctology.us/atomizing.php

pb4
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   Posted 12/11/2008 11:27 PM (GMT -7)   
spookyhurst, did you look at the link I provided above to see those pics of elephant ears? From what I was told (after it was too late of course) a script of cortifoam steroid enema can usually do the trick in shrinking them back down and then they can simply be snipped off in the docs office with no issues. But they must be shrunk down enough before getting them snipped off. And this process does not guarantee that new ones won't develop at some point so it can be an ongoing issue.

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spookyh
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   Posted 12/12/2008 12:17 AM (GMT -7)   
pb4, glad to hear it. I'm getting a new GI soon (been waiting since last May), so I'll ask her about it. I'm pretty sure my biggest hunk of tissue looks like an elephant ear. If I could just get that one thing gone, I'd be a happy camper.

I actually saw a dude once about getting my hemmies removed. He was the one who discovered my fistulas. Somehow my GI doctor failed to ever see them.

gachrons
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   Posted 12/12/2008 4:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi I don't know about you girls but I have a issue with Dr.'s poking around down there I just dislike it .Will see how this witch hazel thing goes for now it might take a witch to get this all begone.There does seem to be a few things they can do for them but hard to say what is available around here. Will let you know if I find any good coming from it . lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


bektold
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   Posted 12/12/2008 10:06 AM (GMT -7)   
At this point I've pretty much lost all sense of dignity and personal privacy in a medical setting.  It feels like I've dropped trow for every doctor in Houston, usually with an audience of nurses and sometimes doctors in training.  I will say, my new GI was the first woman to give me a rectal exam, and it was more pleasant (or at least, less unpleasant) than previous experiences.  Small fingers.

gachrons
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   Posted 12/12/2008 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi bektold you must have a mighty fine looking butt to have all that exposure in no way would I go for all them being so noisy. Do you have to be exposed to all that ? lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


pb4
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   Posted 12/12/2008 11:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I agree with becktold, besides I kinda lost that dignity thing after giving birth to my first born LOL.

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