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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 12/13/2008 8:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, the Mayo Clinic Nicotine Dependence Center's 8 Day In-House Smoking Cessation Program (dry out tank for smokers) was a great success! Unbelievable easy! I haven't had a cigarette since 4:35 PM on 24 October 2008. And really haven't suffered at all.
 
HOWEVER, I stepped on the scale today. I was 113 lbs on 24 October 2008. 121.8 lbs today. H*ll I couldn't gain that fast when I was on TPN "and" eating to gain weight!!!
 
I'm giving it one more week and then I'm buying a carton of cigarettes and going back to smoking. At least w/the TPN and eating I was putting on evenly distributed weight. This 8 1/2 lbs is all right in the "apple" area. Its been too easy to put it on and its too d*mn hard to take it off. Either I stabilize at the 122 lbs mark or I'm going back to enjoying my ciggies!
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.


pb4
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   Posted 12/13/2008 8:35 PM (GMT -7)   
What about exercising regularly? portion control and what you eat is key along with exercising regularly, even if it's long walks daily, or aquasizing or pilates with some form of cardio, stationary bike, mini trampoline, jump-rope ect.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


FitzyK23
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   Posted 12/13/2008 9:47 PM (GMT -7)   
How tall are you?? I bet your bodies "normal" weight is more and you are just finally getting there for the first time. Its ok to put on a little extra for your next flare. I understand what you mean though. I gained about 10 pounds in water weight from a birth control that didn't agree with me and it was right in my stomach. I hated it. Don't throw away your experience over some weight gain. You have gained just a little over 10 pounds in a month and a half.

Nicotine doesn't keep you skinny - it keeps you busy so you eat less. You might be eating more to substitute another hand to mouth activity. Try brushing your teeth when you feel the need to munch. "Smoke" a straw or coffee twirler. Munch on carrot sticks or celery if your crohns can handle it. Chew ice chips. Chew gum. Eat a cough drop.

Congrats on quitting smoking and I really hope you stick with it. PS: I am 5'7" and used to weigh 115 or so in high school, 120 in college 130 now. I have very many close guy friends who have told me I look a lot hotter since I have gained weight (and have boobs and a butt - plus now thighs and a gut) then I did rail thin. We like being thin to impress other women, not men. I bet most guys on here like a little meat on their babes.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


Sniper
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   Posted 12/13/2008 10:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Thats just more of you to love C2....
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


pb4
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   Posted 12/14/2008 12:42 AM (GMT -7)   
They say that nicotine acts like an appetite suppressant, but I have seen plenty of over-weight smokers LOL!

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


gachrons
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   Posted 12/14/2008 5:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi I am so impressed that you have quit.Wow and wow,the first few months a person gains sometimes but I find that it levels out and the extra energy I got really helped me I also found my brain wasn't in such a fog. So very glad you did it. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 12/14/2008 7:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Congrats on quiting smoking.

Your body is readjusting to the lack of toxins.

C2 I have a different perspective on this weight gain thing. I am a former model and marathon runner and never wore less then a 10/12 in my adult life (I was actually smaller in the military then I was in high school because of the amount of PT and OPSTEMPO).  
 But of course I embrace my Gabriella Reese athletisism and my Anna Nicole curves.  Even though I may look like a train wreck now...LOL  It isn't because I do not care, it is because I know that health is the focus, and getting healthy is the most important thing. 
 
Now I am a size 24/26. I gained weight (150 lbs, litterly doubled my body weight) because I was unable to exercise (broken verts, leg, ankle, and foot) and I still have a very hard time moving. Obviously I am not going to be modeling again, but I do want to be healthy again.  So I know I will get sidelined from time to time, but I am like the turtle it might take me years to do it, but I will be healthy and in shape again. 
 
I am so jealous that you have only ten pounds to lose (and I also have to agree with fitzy here how tall are you and you know that a size zero is not something to aspire too), but I also know that is some of the toughest weight to lose. But really that is something you can fix in a month or two if you can commit to it and you can do it because hello you just quit one of the more addictive substances. Now I would like you to get addicted to the feeling of wellbeing that exercise can give you. It is going to suck for the first couple of weeks (3-6) because you will be sore, but it will get better. Please do the work to make yourself better, and as someone who's mother is dying of cancer to volenteer for such a thing, especially since you just kicked it, seems kinda crazy. I mean no offense I just want to make sure your focus is on the right thing. And that means replacing an old behavior (smoking) with a new behavior (exercising).

You can do this... and you do not need ciggs to do it.

P.S.  Thanks sniper! LOL


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Post Edited (MMMNAVY) : 12/14/2008 8:05:06 AM (GMT-7)


Nanners
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   Posted 12/14/2008 8:13 AM (GMT -7)   
C2 I quit smoking 9 years ago (my anniversary is 12-31) I gained some weight after I first stopped, but it stopped after a short while. Please do not go back to smoking. Believe me I smoked for over 29 years, I am sure that things will level out. Why go thru all those withdrawals etc for nothing. Do you want to always smell like a ashtray while you think you look good slimmer. You have things worse than I did though as you already have a confirmed diagnosis of COPD. Believe me within months you are going to feel so good. Please just be patient, things will be okay. Hugs!!!
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis. Currently my Crohns is in remission.


CrohnieToo
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   Posted 12/14/2008 10:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone. It is NOT a matter of controling portions. THAT is NOT the problem. Nicotine addiction wasn't a problem for me. It was and is THE HABIT.

The Mayo program is GREAT! It really is a "dry out tank" for smokers. The very first day a blood draw for nicotine and cotinine levels to determine the amount of nicotine support you need. They use the entire arsenal availabe for smoking cessation that yuo want and can tolerate. Patches are the main stay, depending on your blood draw results what dosage you are given. (Don't have to take any nicotine supplement you don't want to take). Then they also offer Chantix or Wellbutrin (Zyban) and any other mixture you want: gum, lozenges, puffer, nasal spray ... I forget what all is available.

You are kept busy from 6:30 AM to 5:30 PM. (Only 10 people at a time). Breakfast, counseling, classes on nutrition, lunch, exercise, history of tobacco, group sessions, private sessions, supper. Breathalyzer 3 x a day for the nicotine level and after any trip outside once you graduate to that privilege. The first 3 days no release from the in-house program, then an outside walk W/a staff memeber, then some free time to leave the facitlity for set time periods w/non-smoking friends or family. And finally graduation.

I am 5' 4". I'm 66 years old. I have a small bone structure. 120 lbs is about the limit that I feel good.

The problem is that I find myself grazing constantly and I'm not even realizing it until the stuff is sliding down my throat. I'm thinking I'm hungry almost constantly altho we all know I'm not. It isn't just the hand to mouth bit because I'm using the puffer constantly unless I'm in public (it looks like you are sucking on a tampax!!!). It isn't nicotine addiction 'cause I'm getting the nicotine and not craving a cigarette.

It IS an attitude adjustment. I resent depriving myself of a cigarette which I enjoy and having to fight this food craving. And especially sweets. I've not been fond of sweets in YEARS! One or the other I was and am willing to tackle - but not both.

And there is the matter of self-comfort and self-image. I'd rather smoke and be satisfied w/my appearance and comfort level. And be rest assurred I am NOT hung up on looking like a skinny cadaver. I HATE that the couple of times Crohn's put me there. But neither will I tolerate looking like an apple rolling down the street. I WILL maintain a physical image "I" am satisfied with. I could care less about other people's physical "image" of me.

Thanks, all of you, for caring!
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 12/14/2008 10:15 AM (GMT -7)   
You are going to laugh, but the VA has a study going on that uses those kid's suckers for mouth sensation.
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Osprey101
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   Posted 12/14/2008 12:47 PM (GMT -7)   
C2> If you find yourself "grazing," aim for high-fat, high-protein foods- cheese is good. Carbohydrates and sugars offer little satiety, and people will eat and eat without feeling full- emptying a bag of potato chips or popcorn or whatever. There's no "off switch" for consuming carbs.

But the body *does* respond to fats and proteins. Prisoners used in diet experiments in the 1970s could consume 10,000 food calories per day as mostly carbohydrates and STILL manage to feel hungry. Fat and protein, however, cause the dieter to feel full more quickly, and stop eating.

FitzyK23
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   Posted 12/14/2008 6:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Tis the season to suck on candy canes!!!
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


FitzyK23
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   Posted 12/14/2008 6:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Ps: I had now idea you were in your 60's C2. Not that you are old but I "pictured you" in your 30's for some reason.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


Joie1
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   Posted 12/14/2008 6:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Don't go back. You're my hero! I haven't quit. Try chewing ice when you get a craving. Or candy canes or something. The weight gain could be a bit of the oral fixation. Get some straws and chew them. Those all worked for my mom when she quit and all my aunts and whatnot. It works and they ALL stabilized their weight at some point. The stress is hard too.
27/f/CD. 4 CD related surgeries: 2 resections, 2 JP drains, 3 NG tubes, many absesses (including the one my most recent surgery scraped off my ovary) and fistulas.
Currently trying to figure out hip and knee joint pain.
Have lost in these surgeries: appendix, 8 in. intestine, R fallopian tube, gallbladder, 10 in. intestine
Crohns Dx'd: February 2008.
Pentasa (and much mental screaming)

Trying to hang in there until January so I'll have some insurance and can visit a rheumy, neuro, GI, primary, pain control, and possibly a shrink so I could stop crying and living in my own lil pity party. :-P


Sniper
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   Posted 12/14/2008 10:32 PM (GMT -7)   
C2, dont give up all that hard work. I made it through and am starting to lose the weight . I used baby carrots when I got the urge to eat or smoke or whatever my body was doing at the time. They are not fattening, taste good and mostly put something in your mouth besides a filter..
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


Courtney L.
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   Posted 12/15/2008 10:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi there! I quit 2 1/2 years ago.... i did gain about 10lbs quick - but that's been it.... and it's been really hard to come off... I'm "normal sized" - about size 8 - and my husband just kept telling me how good I smelled, how happy he was, and so on.... I did go on Wellbutrin recently for depression and have noticed all the cig weight is gone.... I know it's really hard to quit. I feel really really bad for those who still smoke b/c I remember the days of going outside in the cold to have a ciggie or just dying til you could have your next one.... if you stay a "quitter" - you'll look back on this and remember what a grip that awful nicotine had on you.... and you are strong because you beat it!!! if you can do that - you will certainly be able to lose the 10lbs.

I really really feel for you!! I remember the days!! I wouldn't quit for so long I was afraid of weight gain....

take care
Married, 1 daughter

Currently on Remicade, Azathioprine, Wellbutrin and occasionally Xanax or Hydrocodone... have had 3 Crohns surgeries, many hospitalizations! Sometimes this disease really gets in the way of what I need to do during the day!!!


mj8dokken
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   Posted 12/15/2008 10:48 AM (GMT -7)   

Sorry if someone already posted this info, but I didn't have time to read all the lengthy responses (I'm at work) hehe devil

When I quit this fall, the counselor told me that smoking a pack a day burns an extra 150 calories (since it quickens your metabolism, etc.) so she said weight gain is common for that reason. Maybe cut a few calories and exercise a little more? I'm struggling the same as you, so I definitely don't want to make it sound like it's easy, because it's not. I too have gained weight and am trying to deal, though prednisone is partially to blame in my case too.


Bad flare May '06 resulted in CD diagnosis
 
Asacol: 4800 mg/day; Entocort: 9mg/day; Metronidazol
Started seeing a Naturopath-Castor Oil Packs, Liquid B Complex, Floragen, Ribes Nigrum, Herbal GI, Chlorella
 
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CrohnieToo
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   Posted 12/15/2008 8:05 PM (GMT -7)   
When I was on TPN to gain weight it was a GOOD weight gain, evenly distributed, arms, face, legs, body. This weight gain is all right smack dab in the middle, the ole apple weight distribution. (Ha! If you can call that distribution!)

I would do all right IF I COULD eat raw celery stalks, raw broccoli, raw cauliflower. H*ell, I LOVE them and crave them the way so many crave chocolate. But the ole gut isn't gonna allow them.

This puffer looks like you are sucking on a tampax but I'm chewing on the darn thing or sucking on it almost every waking minute. I don't even care if it has any nicotine left in the capsule or not. I don't even notice. I am building up a HUGE RESENTMENT and getting really b*tchy.
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.


randynoguts
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   Posted 12/16/2008 5:02 PM (GMT -7)   
good luck C2.. i hope you can endure... maybe this would be a good time to come out of retirement? a b1tchy attitude at Xmas always works for the mail!
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