I fell off the SCD wgon this weekend

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Doc2007
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   Posted 12/15/2008 10:55 AM (GMT -7)   
cry  SOrry guys I fell off the SCD wagon and have had cookies, and pastries, and enchiladas and a 3 musketer...and a breakfast sandwich this mornign for breakfast....Im so pathetic...I need to get back on the SCD diet....immediatley...

Doc2007
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   Posted 12/15/2008 11:42 AM (GMT -7)   
and to add insult to injury I had a holiday part yesterday at my house...and this mornign I am getting emails from people worrying about how thin I am! lol

sulleysullivan
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   Posted 12/15/2008 11:45 AM (GMT -7)   
whats SCD?
"I feel infinite." -the perks of being a wallflower


LMills
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   Posted 12/15/2008 11:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Doc-It's bound to happen every now and again. All you can do is pick yourself up and start it again. Please, don't kick yourself in the teeth. You've spent how many years eating a non-SCD diet? Don't expect to be able to be 100% vigilant against mistakes concerning food. You're only human...I have faith you can stick to it if you want to.
I'd be tempted be all of the things you ate as well...or severely grumpy if I somehow resisted.

And Sulley-SCD is the specific carbohydrate diet said to help many people reach remission. There are many websites available with information on it and a book written by its creator Elaine Gotschall.
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone(down to 10 mg), pentasa, bentyl as needed, prilosec, tandem plus, humira, and good probiotics
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.

"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


aoccc
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   Posted 12/15/2008 11:53 AM (GMT -7)   
haha..well get all the eating out of your system for the holidays and start all over again after new years :)
SCD since 01, remission since 01, occasional Arby's breaks :)


Osprey101
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   Posted 12/15/2008 12:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Sulley> SCD and other forms of carbohydrate restriction may work as much as 85% of the time in management of Crohn's. See "Breaking the Vicious Cycle," (as above), "Life Without Bread" by Lutz, and even Atkins- who noted restricting carbs can work to put people with Crohn's into remission. The important thing is to get the starch out of your diet.

sulleysullivan
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   Posted 12/15/2008 6:58 PM (GMT -7)   
jeeze looeeze i looked up some stuff on SCD no wonder you fell off the wagon it sounds pretty hard! i wouldnt be to hard on yourself! you'll get back on when your ready its hard especially around the holidays good luck! :)
"I feel infinite." -the perks of being a wallflower


Stef17
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   Posted 12/15/2008 7:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Ha ha ha! Ok, sorry that I'm laughing, but I have sooooo been there. All you can do is start again. AND... hope that what you ate doesn't tear you up! I hope you enjoyed every tasty bite. Now get back to those almond flour muffins and eat some honey if you're craving sweets!!!

spookyh
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   Posted 12/15/2008 9:10 PM (GMT -7)   
sulleysullivan said...
jeeze looeeze i looked up some stuff on SCD no wonder you fell off the wagon it sounds pretty hard! i wouldnt be to hard on yourself! you'll get back on when your ready its hard especially around the holidays good luck! :)


Overall, it's not that bad. When I first read about it a few years back, I thought there was no way I could stick to something so strict. A couple months back, I dug a little deeper and found out it's not as bad as it initially seems. When you focus on what you CAN eat and not on what you can't, it isn't so daunting. People have created some really great recipes that rival those of the standard american diet, even baked goods. Look at some of the goodies on the following sites:

http://milkforthemorningcake.blogspot.com/2008/07/low-salicylate-scd-birthday-and-lemon.html (lots of pictures of the finished products)

http://bethsblog.typepad.com/bethsblog/turtle_soup_the_recipes/

http://www.scdrecipe.com/recipes/

http://nomorecrohns.com/desserts.aspx

Good luck on getting back on the wagon Doc!

spookyh
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   Posted 12/31/2008 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
So did you get back on the wagon Doc?

LMills
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   Posted 1/4/2009 6:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, I 'fell off the wagon' today. The SCD is, unfortunately, so expensive and filled with foods even in the beginner's diet that I can't afford or tolerate it right now...From being stressed about the money situation to starving(I just keep losing weight for lack of food to eat) I will have to continue it later...I did find a good alternative since there is an Earth Fare market in Knoxville though. They have foods with healthier alternatives of certain flours, sugars, and a lot of gluten free stuff. So, I guess for now since I can't seem to tolerate ANY fruits or vegetables this will have to do. I hate to be uninspiring to anyone attempting to stay on the diet, but I am STARVING and tired of 2-4 BM's every hour at night when the prednisone wears off. Oh boy...
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone 30 mg, pentasa 2 pills 4x a day, bentyl as needed, prilosec in the morning, tandem plus, humira every other week, and good probiotics.
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
Attempting the specific carbohydrate diet. Cheated once for Christmas.

"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


spookyh
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   Posted 1/4/2009 9:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry to hear that. I haven't had a problem with extra expenses yet, but I haven't started eating nut flour yet. That will we be the worst expense. Did you tolerate the yogurt? That's one of my favorite parts of the diet! If you make it with half and half, it will give you a good amount of calories. Throw in a teaspoon or so of virgin coconut oil, and it makes it even more high cal. Can you eat avocado? That would be another good source for gaining weight. Also, eggs. I love scrambled eggs with cheese. Bone broths can be good too. I just had a mini flare from trying some red wine on New Year's Eve (I'm thinking it might have been the sulfites). Broth was surprisingly filling. All I had to eat yesterday was yogurt, gelatin (made with Welch's grape juice), tea, and broth, yet somehow I didn't get overly hungry.

I hope you find success with another diet! My mini-flare reminded me how much it sucks to have crohn's.

LMills
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   Posted 1/4/2009 9:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Yogurt seems to be all right...avocado nearly made me vomit unfortunately. I'd like to make homemade yogurt but don't have the money for even a cheap container from the thrift shop hah. I definitely plan on going back on this diet once money isn't as much of an issue, but with rent, car payments/insurance, medical bills etc. well, I'm pretty sure you already know how it goes!!
BUT, please keep us posted on how you're doing with the diet. I'm glad to hear that you're able to eat the things that you are, and I really hope it helps you reach remission. Even if it can't help me right now, it's really nice to hear it work for others :) You're a great inspiration!
I'm off to make tea now(it's always soothing at least) to go along with illegal yet healthy cinnamon muffins...and an ultracet :/
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone 30 mg, pentasa 2 pills 4x a day, bentyl as needed, prilosec in the morning, tandem plus, humira every other week, and good probiotics.
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
Attempting the specific carbohydrate diet. Cheated once for Christmas.

"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


spookyh
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   Posted 1/4/2009 10:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for caring LMills! It would be great if we could all find something, ANYTHING, that would help us get healthy and stay healthy.

After my wine setback the other day, I was a bit depressed. I was getting stomach pains similar to those that ultimately signify a blockage, except that the pain never increased in strength and frequency. I was hoping I had seen the last of symptoms like those. Then I got to thinking about how the wine said it contained sulfites, and the last time I had a couple of dried apricots with sulfite on them, I ended up in the ER. Even though the cause of my flair could have been sugar in the wine (you never know when a company adds extra), the alcohol, the sulfites, or something totally unrelated, I know I won't be trying wine again anytime soon. I just really hope it was something in the wine and not something else simmering inside my intestines shakehead.

If you want to try the homemade yogurt sometime, you can do it without any fancy equipment. All you need is some glass jars, a thermometer, a light (for your heat source) and a place to keep your yogurt at a constant temp. Some people use their ovens, a cupboard, or a box. Here's a video of how to do it:

http://www.cookingforceliacscolitiscrohnsandibs.com/cooking_for/content/how_to_make_yogurt.html

I'm off to have tea as well! I was never a hot tea fan in the past, but now try to drink a glass of green or mint tea each night. Cinnamon muffins sound delicious! I can't wait until I'm ready to eat something similar turn.

LMills
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   Posted 1/5/2009 6:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Just from wine? That's terrible!! I'm so sorry that happened...I cannot believe how little of something can affect us so greatly sometimes.

Thanks for the link by the way! It's going in my bookmarks immediately. I've been eating Greek and organic yogurts with added probiotics as of late but there is just something about homemade..

Yeah, I think cinnamon muffins based on the SCD guidelines would be delicious...
I wouldn't be drinking peppermint tea if you hadn't said anything so thank you! It's so soothing...
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone 30 mg, pentasa 2 pills 4x a day, bentyl as needed, prilosec in the morning, tandem plus, humira every other week, and good probiotics.
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
Attempting the specific carbohydrate diet. Cheated once for Christmas.

"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


xraygrrl
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   Posted 1/5/2009 7:39 AM (GMT -7)   
At least you got a lot of food in while off the wagon, Doc! If you're going to fall off, you might as well make it worth it! I'm in my second week on SCD & it does seem pretty expensive but I'm thinking that might not be the case once you get the pantry stocked.

spookyh
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   Posted 1/5/2009 8:43 AM (GMT -7)   
It can be more expensive to eat healthy. I try to keep an eye on the sales and stock up when the prices are low. I just got a little freezer last month, so I now have the space for buying in bulk. I wish I could afford stuff like free range meat and eggs, but that's waaayyyy out of my budget.

I wanted to add peaches to my diet, and found it was almost $8 for a tiny bag of the frozen generic brand! You can bet I'll be freezing extra next summer when they're in peak season and reasonably priced.

EMom
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   Posted 1/5/2009 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   
spookyhurst said...
I wish I could afford stuff like free range meat and eggs, but that's waaayyyy out of my budget.


This may not be of any help but I thought I'd throw it out there. I buy my meat (beef) from a *very* small-time farmer who raises only a few head a year. They are hormone/antibiotic-free and primarily grass-fed (they have to supplement w/corn through part of the winter). I don't know where you live, but if you can find someone like this, it actually turns out to be cheaper than buying the not-as-high-quality beef at the grocery store. It's great that you have a little freezer because this is tough to do without one. First time I purchased from these folks I bought only 1/3 of a side. This last time I purchased an entire side. It completely filled my chest freezer!

They also have free-range eggs much cheaper than my local grocery store, but unfortunately they're not close enough for me to run there just for eggs. They're an impressive little operation, though. I found out about them through word-of-mouth. If I were to search for someone like this I guess I'd start asking at small-time health food stores and then rural churches.
Mom to 16 year old son diagnosed in June, 2007.
Omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, vit. C, calcium w/D3, a good multivitamin and SCD legal yogurt
Started The Maker's Diet in Sept. '07. Gradually learning/using more Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) recipes, too! (cooking challenged)

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