What products have Probiotics in them?

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WorrywartNana
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   Posted 12/27/2008 12:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Can anyone tell me what products have Probiotics in them?  Is "Activia" yogert the only way to get them?  Do they really help Crohn's/Colitis suffers?  What is the best source?
 
 

pb4
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   Posted 12/27/2008 12:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Activia is a good source but you're still better off taking a probiotic supplement (pill or powder form) daily and indefintiely, I use both Activia and Primadophilus Reuteri made by natures way (google it).

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EMom
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   Posted 12/27/2008 12:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Though I know some here have had success with Activia, others have reported adverse reactions. It has one strain only of a beneficial bifidobacteria.

The very, very best way to get probiotics is through fermented foods you can make yourself! The Specific Carbohydrate Diet website gives instructions on how to make yogurt yourself, fermenting for 24 hours so that nearly all lactose is gone (commercial yogurts are higher in lactose, and many folks with CD are intolerant). Here's a link:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/yoghurt/yoghurt.htm

Nothing store-bought can hold a candle to the probiotic content of foods you make and ferment yourself! I'm going to take my first crack at home made, fermented sauerkraut after the holidays!

Another choice might be a high quality, organic, plain yogurt, like Stonyfield Farm. This type of yogurt has up to 6 beneficial strains of probiotics. They have a great website if you care to check them out.

And as pb4 said, a probiotic supplement is great, too! We do both the supplement and home made yogurt. Good luck!
Mom to 16 year old son diagnosed in June, 2007.
Omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, vit. C, calcium w/D3, a good multivitamin and SCD legal yogurt
Started The Maker's Diet in Sept. '07. Gradually learning/using more Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) recipes, too! (cooking challenged)


WorrywartNana
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   Posted 12/27/2008 12:48 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks pb4:

I hope the probiotics help my grandson to absorb more nutition.  Over the last 4 week he has gone from 145 lbs to 110 and is still losing.  He looks emanciated and malnutritioned.  The Prednisone appears to have gotten his inflammation under control and is definitely giving him an appetite.  Does it take a long time to recoup the weight loss?  Or do you ever really get it back?


Rider Fan
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   Posted 12/27/2008 1:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes it can come back but it could take some time.
Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: 25mg Methotrexate. 12.5mg prednisone. Udo's Choice Probiotics (30 billion).

Tried SCD, didn't work, now avoiding gluten and dairy.


pb4
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   Posted 12/27/2008 1:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, I ditto what Rider Fan says, the weight can come back mind you it took until my mid 30's and for females that's often when our metabolism changes and weight gain naturally likes to happen due to hormones, age and such, now I have to actually work at keepin my weight lower where I want it LOL.

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WorrywartNana
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   Posted 12/27/2008 4:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Can you take too many Probiotics? I just picked up capsules containing 5 billion probiotics each. The pharmacist said to start by taking one a day. Do you know if taking Probiotics does anything to increase the white blood cells? My grandson's white blood cell count is still elevated which I know is not a good thing. Thanks for reassuring me that he will eventually get some weight back on. He wants to go back to work but I'm afraid he will get too fatigued. The Prednisone makes him a little hyperactive, and I'm not sure if that is just "false energy".

EMom
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   Posted 12/27/2008 6:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Experts say a good probiotic should have multiple strains and have at LEAST 10 to 15 billion cfu. Some brands have much more than that, though. One brand that some people here use has 250 billion cfu per capsule! Also, one cup of home made yogurt has 700 billion friendly bacteria in it, and Elaine Gottschall said you could eat up to 3 cups a day! Based on this, it would seem pretty tough to take too much in capsule form!

Definitely follow the pharmacist's advice and start with 1 a day for the first several days, though. Tell your grandson he may initially notice increased gas and/or bloating. This can be normal at first, but if it continues, he may want to experiment with another brand. Health food stores are usually your best source for high quality probiotics.

I don't know if anyone can definitively answer your question about whether probiotics will help his white blood count. Were you asking if the probiotics could make it worse? If so, then I would think not. Lactobaccilli is recognized as on of the friendly species that inhabit normal, healthy intestines, and has also been proven to help reduce inflammation there. Seems to me that if a person can achieve "normal" in their intestines then their overall health will follow as well. Here's a great link with FAQs about probiotics:

http://www.usprobiotics.org/basics.asp#human

My mom takes them for her IBS and it completely went away... yeah She told her family practitioner who said, "Oh yes, I have my parents take them for their general health, too!" (As we age our intestines' natural flora declines, so the thinking is that just about everyone can benefit from them in one way or another! I've even seen them in dog food now!)

What a sweet Nana you are to look into this for your grandson!:-) Many people with Crohn's experience positive results from taking probiotics, so you should pat yourself on the back for doing this for him! wink
Mom to 16 year old son diagnosed in June, 2007.
Omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, vit. C, calcium w/D3, a good multivitamin and SCD legal yogurt
Started The Maker's Diet in Sept. '07. Gradually learning/using more Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) recipes, too! (cooking challenged)


WorrywartNana
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   Posted 12/27/2008 7:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks EMom! You must be a mind-reader.... You've answered all my questions and even the ones I didn't quite know how to ask. Loving, caring and worrying are things a "grandmother" does best! My heart goes out to you and your son; hope he is well on his way to remission.

I'm going to go look up that probiotic link you mentioned right now!

I'll be back with more questions, no doubt about it.

mkl11
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   Posted 12/27/2008 8:33 PM (GMT -7)   
My aunt, an alternative medicine guru, sent me Garden of Life's HSO Probiotic Formula (in powder form). The label does not list the number of cfu but does list 12 species of probiotics. Anyone else use this product??

I'm a bit hesitant since Activia made me awfully sick, but I'm going to start slowly with just a pinch to begin.
20 y/o, diagnosed 6/2007. On Humira, no wheat or corn syrup, low sugar, low dairy.

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