10 month old with gluten intolerance? or could it be leading to crohns.

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Chronicallyill
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   Posted 1/8/2009 6:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I started to introduce my daughter to wheat at around 7 months old. It seemed to be ok for a little bit, but then she started having really green wet poops. Not firm at all which she was previously regular and no problems. This went on for 2 months so I stopped it all together. She went from gaining 2 lbs a month down to 1 lb in 2 months. Hers and my doctor said that it was probably because she was moving around more. She wasnt really. She only just started crawling as of january 1st.
 
This past Sunday i gave her some cake at her cousins cake party. . . Early birthday. :) the next day she had diarhea half the day. It worried me a lot. I dont know what to do about it an am hoping that it isnt a problem. I am going to wait another couple weeks and try it out again and see what happens.
 
If anyone had an y suggestions that would be great. I'm so stressed right now. I am in a huge flare and cant really even leave the house. :( I dont want her to have crohns or anything related. I dont want her to have to go what i go through everyday. smhair
Age:22/6"1'/146lb - Diagnosed: 2001 @ age 15 now 22
First time mom as of March 8th 2008
Past drugs: Pentasa, Flagyl, Budesonide, Prednisone, tons of Antibiotics, Didrocal, 6mp
Past herbal remedies and vitamins:Probiotics, Omega 3&6, Prenatal vitamins, B12, Calcium, iron, vit C, vit D, vit E, Selenium, mineral drops
Current drugs: Valtrex, Methotrexate as of October 2008
Problems:Fissure and Tags on rectum, blood clots, Chronic UTI's, Osteopenia, Ulcers in my decending Colon
No surgeries....yet. Gone through 5 G.I.'s found a 6th G.I. crossing my fingers
Procedures: 4 colonoscopies, 1 upper endoscopy, 2 barium swallows, 1 biopsy of the fissure and tag (chron's affected)


gachrons
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   Posted 1/8/2009 6:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi When you stopped the wheat did things improve for her? How were her BM's after stopping the wheat? Perhaps she is allergic to it I am just guessing about that. Does she have any blood or mucus issues or seem to be in pain when having a BM? I would keep a journal of when you notice any food changes or problem BM's and that might help some down the road. If she is eating and drinking good then she might have a spurt later in a month or two I noticed that kids seem to have spurts where they will eat more and gain alot at certain times. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


EMom
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   Posted 1/8/2009 7:12 PM (GMT -7)   
This is ironic. I was just reading a bit about this for a friend who is about to have her first baby. Here is what Sally Fallon, a well known nutritionist/author says in her section on babies:

"An unfortunate practice in industrial societies is the feeding of cereal grains to infants. Babies produce only small amounts of amylase needed for the digestion of grains, and are not fully equipped to handle cereals, especially wheat, before the age of one year. (Some experts prohibit all grains before the age of two.) Baby's small intestine mostly produces one enzyme for carbohydrates--lactase, for the digestion of lactose. (Raw milk also contains lactase.) Many doctors have warned that feeding cereal grains too early can lead to grain allergies later on."

I had heard this several years ago, so it didn't surprise me to read it again. She goes on to say animal protein followed by fruits and veggies are the first things to introduced at about 10 months. Just wanted to share. According to this, I fed my kids grains way too early.sad

Don't fret! Your little one may just be teething and it all may all be a coincidence. But you also might want to consider limiting or eliminating grains for some time.
Mom to 16 year old son diagnosed in June, 2007.
Omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, vit. C, calcium w/D3, a good multivitamin and SCD legal yogurt
Started The Maker's Diet in Sept. '07. Incorporate Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) recipes, too.


patientspiders
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   Posted 1/8/2009 7:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Take a deep breath, chronic... or you're going to make YOURSELF worse, and that's not good for you or for baby.

I've only been trying the gluten-free thing for a few months, but I can tell you ONE possible thing that might be going on. When I went gluten free, it took over a month to notice any improvement.

If you introduced your baby to wheat/gluten with such terrible results, I would alleviate your suspicions by going gluten free with baby again and most importantly - give it time. If your baby does have a sensitivity or allergy, it will take time for her little intestines to heal from the damage, so it may be a while before her poop goes back to normal. In the mean time, you're going to tear your hair out trying to figure out what ingredient did what, and all for nothing... Give her a few solid months without - like you did until she was 7months - and then start off with something simple and identifiable like pasta, or bread. Just choose one thing, give her a little bit, and see what happens. With cake it could be the flour, it could be the preservatives, it could be any number of things, so try to isolate it more next time.

I don't even have a baby yet and I worry the same worries you do about my future kids having crohn's, etc. There's a few things that people on this forum remind parents of all the time...

1 - look how much research and money is being put into finding solutions for our problems... in the last ten years the gastrointestinal universe has rapidly expanded, abandoned, adopted, and changed SOOOO much. It only follows that such research and awareness will continue, giving our kids a way better shot than we had/have.

2- Worst case scenario? Even on my worst of worst days I'm still glad that I'm alive. I know it kills my mother to see me go through rough spells, but... if I didn't have crohn's it could have been something just as bad or worse.

You'll figure out what's going on with your baby. Keep good notes. In the mean time, ((((hugs)))).
27f, dx'd CD July '05 after 6 fistula/abscess surgeries
(miscarried at 13 weeks, now waiting to heal before trying again)
Stopped Humira August 22nd, 2008.
Went Gluten-Free, noticing some definite improvement.
Started LDN October 27th, and already LOVING IT.

"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure."


kim123
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   Posted 1/8/2009 7:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Just wondering, has your baby ever been on antibiotics?

Chronicallyill
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   Posted 1/9/2009 10:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Well kim123 as of recently like last week she went on antibiotics for the first time, for a chest and ear infection. It hasn't affected her at all. She is having regular poops right now.

Patientspider, thanks. As soon I stopped feeding her gluten everything went back to normal. There definitely has been a lot of progress in the past 10 years and if she does end up with crohns at least I will know what to do for her and would probably catch early. Claire was an ooops baby because we didnt think we could have kids. So now all the worries are running through my head about her getting it and everything. I know I shouldnt worry. I usually don't,but I am in a really bad flare right now and its all I can think about :(.

gacrohns, Yes the her BM's improved right away after i eliminated it from her diet. She doesnt have any pain passing her stools and there is no blood or mucus. Thank goodness. The food journal is a good idea for her, and I should even be doing it for myself. I just dont seem to make them to do it. . . . My bad :)

Emom, thanks for the post. I was determined when I had Claire that I was going to wait till she was 2 to introduce wheat because I had heard the same thing from a friend. I dont know why I didnt wait, at some point I forgot about it and now also regret giving it to her. I think now that I know I will wait till she is 2 to try it again. I will just have to find a cake mix at the health food store made with different types of flour. I dont want her to miss out on a cake for her birthday just because she cant eat regular cake :)
Age:22/6"1'/146lb - Diagnosed: 2001 @ age 15 now 22
First time mom as of March 8th 2008
Past drugs: Pentasa, Flagyl, Budesonide, Prednisone, tons of Antibiotics, Didrocal, 6mp
Past herbal remedies and vitamins:Probiotics, Omega 3&6, Prenatal vitamins, B12, Calcium, iron, vit C, vit D, vit E, Selenium, mineral drops
Current drugs: Valtrex, Methotrexate as of October 2008
Problems:Fissure and Tags on rectum, blood clots, Chronic UTI's, Osteopenia, Ulcers in my decending Colon
No surgeries....yet. Gone through 5 G.I.'s found a 6th G.I. crossing my fingers
Procedures: 4 colonoscopies, 1 upper endoscopy, 2 barium swallows, 1 biopsy of the fissure and tag (chron's affected)


gachrons
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   Posted 1/9/2009 12:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Could be that cold was making her a little sick and I think rice cereal is better to start the wee ones on. You could try googling it .I remember when my teen was small every tooth that came in she would get sick wow was I glad when they were all in .lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


EMom
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   Posted 1/9/2009 1:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Chronicallyill said...
Emom, thanks for the post. I was determined when I had Claire that I was going to wait till she was 2 to introduce wheat because I had heard the same thing from a friend. I dont know why I didnt wait, at some point I forgot about it and now also regret giving it to her. I think now that I know I will wait till she is 2 to try it again. I will just have to find a cake mix at the health food store made with different types of flour. I dont want her to miss out on a cake for her birthday just because she cant eat regular cake :)


Just to clarify... for those who espouse the "no grains until 1 to 2 years" plan, it would include all grains--even rice cereal, which I remember starting mine on around 3-4 months. sad I'm with you, though. Birthdays are definitely special, and fall under the "special occasion clause", when you can break all the rules! smilewinkgrin Glad she's back to normal now! Happy Birthday, Claire!

P.S. I once purchased a wheat-free/gluten-free brownie mix at the health food store made by "Pamela's Products". It was fabulous and I know they have cake mixes, too. FABULOUS!
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