Would someone please write an encyclopedia of poop?

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patientspiders
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   Posted 1/10/2009 11:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I will advance order a copy. Meanwhile, consider yourself warned: this is a nitty-gritty nasty poopy post.

I will try to keep it short and sweet.

BM's - 3-5 a day, urgent, always feel like they're going to be huge (chills, sweats, etc) and.... all that leaves my body are little TINY pellets of poo. Very anti-climactic. Since starting the LDN I get a few more "solid" pieces, but they are always proceeded by these stupid tiny pellets.

The little pellets usually float, and are very pale. I have read that this has something to do with "fat absorption", but I do not eat a lot of fat. Mostly cereal, yogurt, and baked potatoes.

Aside from the pellets, there is a lot of white mucus.

Also, I have been having sharp SHARP pains and nausea, NEITHER of which are part of my typical flare line-up.

Nausea - immediately after eating. And, I NEVER have an appetite anymore.

Pain - SHARP, sharp pain, front-top-abdomen - right where my ribs end and my belly starts to poof out. And sharp pains also in the parts of my guts closest to the front of my pelvic bones... both sides. They're sharp enough that they make my knees buckle from time to time. I'm used to sharp pains deep in my gut, but these feel like they're right under my skin.

I've lost about 10 lbs in 2 weeks. Cutting out the gluten again has helped some, but I'm worried that it's not enough and not "in time".

I read somewhere that my poop symptoms can indicate a pancreatic imbalance. Anyone heard of this?

Anyone with any ideas or suggestions?
27f, dx'd CD July '05 after 6 fistula/abscess surgeries
(miscarried at 13 weeks, now waiting to heal before trying again)
Stopped Humira August 22nd, 2008.
Went Gluten-Free, noticing some definite improvement.
Started LDN October 27th, and already LOVING IT.

"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure."


gachrons
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   Posted 1/10/2009 1:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Any chance you are constipated? lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


spookyh
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   Posted 1/10/2009 8:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Your wish is my command tongue:

http://www.smellypoop.com/facts_about_poop.php (sadly, I remember singing a couple of the little songs when I was a kid)

http://www.poopreport.com/

Ahem, but back to your issue. I used to have the same problem. Taking extra magnesium (I was taking 1000MG a day) helped. Milk of Magnesia also helped. If I was really in a fix, I'd take 4 generic dulcolax pills to get back on track. Thankfully, I haven't had constipation problems since going SCD. It was a serious nuisance for years.

patientspiders
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   Posted 1/10/2009 8:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't think I'm constipated... but then, I don't know if I ever have been. I have at LEAST 3 BM's a day. If I take anything with magnesium I'm pretty much glued to the toilet. The pellets are FAR from solid entities.

Can you be constipated AND have diahrrea at the same time? Good grief, I hope not. Enough is enough already.

:-)

I'm going to go learn fun poopy songs now. Thank you!
27f, dx'd CD July '05 after 6 fistula/abscess surgeries
(miscarried at 13 weeks, now waiting to heal before trying again)
Stopped Humira August 22nd, 2008.
Went Gluten-Free, noticing some definite improvement.
Started LDN October 27th, and already LOVING IT.

"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure."


LMills
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   Posted 1/10/2009 8:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I used to have something similar before my Crohn's symptoms got out of hand or rather, manifested themselves more clearly. Does your stool ever feel like it's acidic or just burns in general? I remember feeling painfully bloated and expecting something big but then finding basically pale mucus that burned terrible accompanied by gas.

I agree though...there are so many different kinds of 'stages' so to speak in feces with these diseases(and even without!) that it does get terribly confusing...

I wish I had some advice, but the only thing that stopped it was getting worse Crohn's symptoms and all of the hospital visits that followed afterward..does your yogurt have a lot of fat content maybe?
I know that sugar, fat, carbonated drinks, and dairy really bothered me when my stools were that way.
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone 20 mg, pentasa 2 pills 4x a day, bentyl as needed, omeprazole in the morning, multivitamin, humira every other week, and good probiotics.
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
Attempting a diet without refined sugars, high fat content, bleached or bromated flour, most dairy, red meat, and avoiding anything spicy like the plague. Also refuse to eat anything with trans fat or high fructose/corn syrup.
"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


broomhilda
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   Posted 1/10/2009 9:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Please call your GI and ask for an anti-spasmotic such as Nulev and some phenergran for nausea or freshly ground ginger in a cup of hot tea.  Be warned that the phenergran inhances the effects of any pain killers and/or sleep medications.  Makes me sleep like a baby.  This has helped me throughout some rough pain/passing out spells as you describe.  Meanwhile, go to clear fluids for 24 hrs. followed by 24 hours of bananas, applesauce, rice and toast.  Limit your sugar and fat intake severely and see if this gets you through.  When you do start eating more solid food, start out with soft foods like mashed potatoes, cooked carrots, etc. and make sure none of these foods are gas forming!  A good probiotic may be in order too! Drink water till your eyeballs float! Keep us posted on how you are doing.  Rabbit pellets are normal here to from time to time. rolleyes Post note...Yoplait original yogurt (is gluten free) or homemade yogurt are the only ones I can tolerate. 

randynoguts
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   Posted 1/10/2009 10:27 PM (GMT -7)   
ok, so why are poops tapered at the end?? so your butt wont slam shut! harhar, my contribution to the encyclopedia of poop
randynoguts 



     http://www.geocities.com/randynogutsweb/


spookyh
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   Posted 1/10/2009 10:44 PM (GMT -7)   
patientspiders said...
Can you be constipated AND have diahrrea at the same time? Good grief, I hope not. Enough is enough already.


I did. I kept feeling like I had to go, but only a little liquid or pellets would come out. My colon also felt like it was spasming during those times. A very uncomfortable feeling that I don't want to have again. But once I took constipation remedies, I could finally have one big poop and feel better. SCD has been my long term fix. I'm thinking it might be the elimination of lactose, but it's hard to say.

I didn't have the sharp pains you describe though. How often do the pains come? Maybe you should get an xray to see if you're backed up or have a blockage.

Bananas are supposed to be good for constipation and diarrhea, so that might be a good food to eat once you figure out if it's safe to eat.

And if anyone wants to see the poopy songs (did I live in a weird neighborhood, because I know way too many of them turn), they're towards the bottom of the page of the first link I posted above. I'm sure we could come up with a bunch of new verses wink.

Margie11
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   Posted 1/11/2009 2:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Patient & Spooky,

We should get Sniper and VV right on those new verses right away so they can be included in the first edition!


              Never go faster than your guardian angel can fly!                  
     Be Patient And Tough, Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You 
 
 Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
                                                Margie11

Post Edited (Margie11) : 1/11/2009 8:08:31 AM (GMT-7)


gachrons
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   Posted 1/11/2009 5:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Yes you can be full of it and still have D. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


Margie11
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   Posted 1/11/2009 8:33 AM (GMT -7)   

What No Sniper or VV yet! OK you got me, I'll get started:

Here I sit all broken hearted
Came to read, but then I farted
Didn't need to check the roll
But now I'm stuck here in this hole

Here I sit all broken hearted
Came to read, but then I farted
Didn't have those extra tidies
Going home to wear my nighties

Warning! Now I get serious and gross...
Yes I think you can have D and C at the same time. One day I was cramping all day and must have been in the small room 8-10 times with the last 4 being watery D, then went home and ate a banana and took 600mg of Mag with a quart of water, and in a few hours had watery D followed by straining dry beginning, finishing up  with a huge trophy. The bad cramping stopped 15 minutes later. I think my body was dumping in water trying to work, but didn't have the bulk to keep things going. I wasn't having the banana with out the Mag and extra water to keep things going. If I remember right I had not eaten for about 24 hours due to nausea and cramping. 


              Never go faster than your guardian angel can fly!                  
     Be Patient And Tough, Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You 
 
 Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
                                                Margie11


Margie11
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   Posted 1/11/2009 8:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Spooky,

That looked more like a dictionary, We could start with that and try to add causes and remedy's
to help Crohnies like us!
              Never go faster than your guardian angel can fly!                  
     Be Patient And Tough, Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You 
 
 Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
                                                Margie11


patientspiders
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   Posted 1/11/2009 9:45 AM (GMT -7)   
You guys are awesome. I'm going to go eat a banana, drink some tea, and start writing entries for our manual de poop!
27f, dx'd CD July '05 after 6 fistula/abscess surgeries
(miscarried at 13 weeks, now waiting to heal before trying again)
Stopped Humira August 22nd, 2008.
Went Gluten-Free, noticing some definite improvement.
Started LDN October 27th, and already LOVING IT.

"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure."


hspenser
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   Posted 1/12/2009 6:42 AM (GMT -7)   

been through exactly what you describe...it has been that way on and off for years....sometimes the pellets without pain just pressure and other times I wanted to cut my own stomach out.

Sometimes the pellets would have some blood or clots attached.....the mucus I am told ...while not a good thing, is natuyral given the disease and the obvious problems I am having.  the colon is producing it in large quantities as a protection to the attack being made on the walls of the colon by the disease....much like the sinuses draining to rid itself of irritants or infection.

The only relief in years for me was after my recent resection and then the use of Canasa.

Hope things get better.

As for the Encyclopedia...I would not hold out much hope.  i tried it once and the publisher wrote back that writing stank....it was all a bunch of sh__......and that he would even wipe his bottom with the paper it was written on.  Possibly the scratch and sniff idea was a bit over the top.


dx IBS 1999   UC 2000   CD 2001
Tested BIOGEN TYSABRI (gave me 2 years of remission)
tried Naltrexone Jan. 19, 2007 Stopped the Naltrexone July 28th...started Humira Aug 31st, 2007...current dose one shot every week. Also nightly dose of mesalamine.
Surgery Nov 4th, 2008 removed 30 inches of small bowel.
 Crohns is currently active and has been since April of 2005
52 yrs old


catpower
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   Posted 1/12/2009 3:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I have had those exact symptoms and they usually indicate a flare. I suggest moving to a liquid/soft foods diet for a bit (Ensure, broth, noodles (if you can eat them)), but that only helps sometimes. A quick 4-week treatment of Entocort might help.
Diagnosed with Crohn's Disease; Meds: Entocort & Asacol; female in late 20s.


Margie11
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   Posted 1/12/2009 3:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I would take it slow and easy with the banana's, I have a lot of mucus, but rarely blood. When I had blood issues, I  used Brasco broth or chicken soup from the Maker's Diet Book.


              Never go faster than your guardian angel can fly!                  
     Be Patient And Tough, Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You 
 
 Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
                                                Margie11

Post Edited (Margie11) : 1/12/2009 6:13:51 PM (GMT-7)


gachrons
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   Posted 1/12/2009 6:07 PM (GMT -7)   
poop : nugget,runny or if life is good solid and soft, firm,,comes in a variety of colors and can come easy or hard,mushy ,most often subject discussed by people who have crohn's or colitis.Often people search for a cure for poop problems and is well dicussed , comes in funky shapes ,used as a disposatory,.. need more info let us know.. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail

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