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FitzyK23
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   Posted 1/10/2009 9:02 PM (GMT -7)   
So many of us have gotten mad before when someone has said "you will grow out of it" regarding crohns.  Well my husband said something the other day that really got me thinking.  I had asthma as a child and I grew out of it.  I had some allergies I grew out of too.  So he very politely asked me: "isn't asthma an auto-immune disorder?" And I said yes.  And he said "aren't allergies when your immune system is overactive?" And I said yes.  And he said "didn't you grow out of those?" And I said "more or less."  Then he said, "why do you get so mad when someone says you might grow out of your crohns?" 
 
And it really got me thinking.  If we can grow out of other auto-immune disorders why not crohns?
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


Joie1
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   Posted 1/10/2009 9:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Because you don't always grow out of it. I've had allergies my whole life. They've never gotten better just more "manageable." I did have about 7 years where I never needed an inhaler (asthma related allergies) and could be around dogs. Those years passed and I'm back to avoiding animals like a plague and taking Claritan D when the cold blows out.

As for Crohns. Well, it's a great dream to me, I'm sure to all of us. But, keeping that kind of hope can be more harmful IMHO. It's sort of like how my family always say I "could" get pregnant. Not that I've given up hope...but it is easier to live with if I just say there will be no children. Sure, I could have kids if I tried IVF (which I've no money for...nor will I have the money for it in any foreseeable future) but it can cause more depression with all the disappointment. Maybe when the stem cell stuff happens...
27/f/CD. 4 CD related surgeries: 2 resections, 2 JP drains, 3 NG tubes, many absesses (including the one my most recent surgery scraped off my ovary) and fistulas.
Currently trying to figure out hip and knee joint pain.
Have lost in these surgeries: appendix, 8 in. intestine, R fallopian tube, gallbladder, 10 in. intestine
Crohns Dx'd: February 2008.
Pentasa (and much mental screaming)

Trying to hang in there until January so I'll have some insurance and can visit a rheumy, neuro, GI, primary, pain control, and possibly a shrink so I could stop crying and living in my own lil pity party. :-P


LMills
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   Posted 1/10/2009 9:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Not only this but you can't attribute Crohn's solely to the same reasons you can for other disorders. There are too many factors and possibilities as to what causes and triggers Crohn's to be able to simply say that we'll grow out it. God though, I wish he was right.
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone 20 mg, pentasa 2 pills 4x a day, bentyl as needed, omeprazole in the morning, multivitamin, humira every other week, and good probiotics.
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
Attempting a diet without refined sugars, high fat content, bleached or bromated flour, most dairy, red meat, and avoiding anything spicy like the plague. Also refuse to eat anything with trans fat or high fructose/corn syrup.
"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


FitzyK23
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   Posted 1/10/2009 10:22 PM (GMT -7)   
L, that was my response to him. I think my asthma was caused by documented very poor air quality in my middle school and high school. My middle school basically ended up condemned and torn down. So, it would make sense that once I was out of that nasty air my asthma would get better. Also, my asthma was mostly triggered by exercise which I rarely do now.

Joie: I appreciate your comment. I do not believe I will magically grow out of my crohns. Yeah I may go into remission etc. I have learned to live w/ my disease. But it made me wonder why other illnesses of my past disapeered on their own. Trust me, I don't think it will happen so I won't be disappointed but it made me wonder why we can "get over" other things on our own. You should reply to the post about our bodies 7 year changes since you had a 7 year respite from your allergies. I'm sorry you have pet allergies. I don't know what I would do w/o mine.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night. I also take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.


pb4
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   Posted 1/10/2009 10:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Technically you probably never really "grow out" of your diseases, they can get better or you can go into full remission but unless a disease is cured it's still lingering even when it's in remission...I don't get eczema as severe as I did when I was a kid, but I havn't grown out of it, it's just calmer and I can manange it better because now I know when to take action as soon as it attempts to reappear.

:)
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Margie11
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   Posted 1/11/2009 2:29 AM (GMT -7)   
So many of us suffered allergy, asthma and other related issues as children, I see Crohn's as more of a progression of our immune system responses. Fitzy, I have less asthma now than ever, but feel the repeated exposure to molds, chemicals, and extreme stress triggered a genetic issue, or prevented a healing response at that level leading to active Crohn's.


              Never go faster than your guardian angel can fly!                  
     Be Patient And Tough, Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You 
 
 Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
                                                Margie11

Post Edited (Margie11) : 1/11/2009 2:35:26 AM (GMT-7)


gachrons
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   Posted 1/11/2009 5:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Interesting isn't it the way our bodies can repair some problems but with asthma, being removed from the bad air quality of course put your bady into a better state of health.Interesting also how some of us have mild crohn's while others rage around the system. Allergies can cause inflamation in the intestines's if you eat something that continually causes inflamation then of course it is exposing the intestine to more problems,who knows it might be why some of us do not get as sick as others. Perhaps this is why they are thinking stem cell therapy and perhaps it will lead to a better understanding of how the system works.

TPN also can romove a person from the enviroment of food and perhaps that is why it helps many who take it. Perhaps with stem cells they can put the new cells threw the sick intestines to promote healing sort of like a blast of fresh air. lol gail
Hallarious woman over 50 ,CD ,IBS 27 years--resection,fistula's,obstructions,hemmies,and still alive.lol gail


Nanners
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   Posted 1/11/2009 9:09 AM (GMT -7)   
You know Fitzy when I was little I had horrible allergies that I seemed to grow out of. But then Crohns appeared when I was 18. I have had it for 33 years, so I don't think I am out growing it:) Dang it!!!
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Anxiety/Panic Forum
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

Margie11
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   Posted 1/11/2009 9:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Wasn't a very good trade off for me, and now the asthma is coming back.
              Never go faster than your guardian angel can fly!                  
     Be Patient And Tough, Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You 
 
 Crohn's for life, symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much. Great control on SCD (when I'm good) and I get by with a lotta help from my friends!
                                                Margie11


pb4
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   Posted 1/11/2009 3:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorta points to the "our bodies changing every 7 yrs" eh.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)

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