Vitamin C side effects?

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Nanners
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   Posted 2/8/2009 4:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I am generally very sensitive to oral supplements i.e. vitamins, Folic Acid, things like that.  I am anemic right now and have been adding some Vitamin C into my regimen as I read that it can help you absorb more iron.  But I have been having some problems lately, and am wondering if its the cause or if my disease is acting up.  I have alot of low back pain, D, cramps and a little nausea. nono
 
As many know, January was a pretty rough month for me with my Mom passing away and the sinus infection from Hades.  So it is plausible that it could be my Crohns.  But its also possible it could be the Vitamin C I am taking.  I am going to stop it tonight and see if I have any improvement.  I am stressing a little about it as my husband and I are to leave this Friday for Guadalajara to visit our family down there and am worried that I could be flaring.  If I don't start feeling better in a day or two being off the Vit C, I think I will put myself on another quick taper of Pred.
 
Anyone else get side effects like this from Vitamin C?  Thanks for you opinions.
 
Hugs,
Gail *Nanners*
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Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

Becoming undone
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   Posted 2/8/2009 5:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Nanners...my thoughts are with you....hugs and more hugs....
as to the question at hand, I can rarely take Vit C supplements. It will tear up my insides like nothing else:reflux, ab pain, and burning D (have D most of the time, the ascorbic acid just causes it to burn and burn). Heck even chili peppers (tepin, etc) don't make it burn as bad (though they do burn the mouth.)
Anyway, take care and my thoughts are with you....

Nanners
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   Posted 2/8/2009 5:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks becoming undone for your response. Yes this D is irritating me really bad too. I did some research on the computer and am thinking it is the Vit C too. I read that it has alot of sorbitol and as we all now sugars are not good for us. Will try stopping the Vit C tonight and see if things improve. I normally can take 1 Immodium and it will stop the D for the rest of the day, but I even had breakthru D with my Immodium.

Anyone else have problems with Vitamin C?
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Anxiety/Panic Forum
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

snohare
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   Posted 2/8/2009 6:27 PM (GMT -7)   
yeah Possibly. Years ago I was taking 1000mg Ascorbic Acid supplements and developed bad kidney stones. Now that may have been because I was in a job where keeping hydrated was a real problem and going for a leak was also problematic - we had no restrooms, we didn't even have bushes to go behind !
Anyway, when I finally went to the doctor after collapsing with agonising pains in the kidneys, he told me that large dosages of vitamin C can upset the calcium balance in the blood leading to kidney stones. Of course, Crohns can also cause kidney stones which are composed of oxalates rather than calcium, but who knows... confused

Margie11
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   Posted 2/8/2009 6:43 PM (GMT -7)   

Gail,

  Many forms of Vitamin C can cause "D", in the store where I work we suggest our customers use ascorbic acid "to bowel tolerance only", but a mineral ascorbate form (like Emergen-C) might work nicely. It mixes in water, provides B vitamins, and you can use as little as you tolerate well. It is also an electrolyte source that will help control "D", I put this in 16 oz. water bottles, and use no more than 1 packet a day. 

   I had so few GI symptom's , my Crohn's was diagnosed after I used sorbital daily for about a month and could not stop the explosive "D" that resulted. It is known to cause "D" and dehydration by food scientist and dietitians, and is (IMHO) a IBD sufferers nightmare. I still cannot use sorbitol, or any sugar alcohol, without bad "D".

  I hope you are having a mini flare, as often happened to me following sinus infections, or from the Vit C, and you are well for your trip. Please be well and have a great time with your family. 

 



              Never go faster than your guardian angel can fly!                  
     Be Patient And Tough, Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You
               I get by with a lotta help from my friends!     
 Crohn's DG 2003 , symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much.
      Followed SCD Strictly 2003-06, then modified by adding new things 10-12 days apart to avoid delayed reactions in the form of arthritis symptoms. Scope on 2-5-09 was great! Doc says no symptoms,No scope for 10 years!!!
                                                                                    Margie11

Post Edited (Margie11) : 2/9/2009 7:32:22 PM (GMT-7)


HM
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   Posted 2/8/2009 7:35 PM (GMT -7)   
I managed a health food store for four years and read alot about "Vit C flushes"....basically it worked by taking vitamin C until you starting having "D" in an effort to flush the body out. Now, that being said we are fabulous Crohns people do not need to flush ourselves with Vit C flushes, lol.

How much are you taking? It has been my experience through reading and talking to doctors that more than 300-500 mg a day just flushes out of your system via urine or bowel movments.

35/f   proud single mom of 2

Diagnosed with GERD/Acid Reflex 2002

Diagnosed with IBS 2007

Diagnosed with UC, then Crohn’s 2008

Current medications: Endcort 3mg 2X daily, Pentasa 2 500mg caps 2X daily, Prilosec 20 mg 2X daily (if needed), Probiotics, Calcuim/Mag/Vit.D. Flinstones multi with Iron and Vit. C 500mg daily


spookyh
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   Posted 2/8/2009 7:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Have you tried taking Ester C? It's buffered with calcium, which is supposed to help keep it from bothering your gut. I took it for years without problem, and only quit taking it recently because the brand I was using had ingredients that weren't SCD legal.

Also, make sure to take vitamin C with a meal and drink a full glass of water with it.

pb4
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   Posted 2/8/2009 8:25 PM (GMT -7)   
I use vitamin c-calcium ascorbate, it's easy on the gut and I've had no issues with it...I've been taking them for the last 3 yrs now daily.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


donnaeil
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   Posted 2/9/2009 3:19 AM (GMT -7)   
I break out in hives when I take vitamin C.

Donnaeil

ERANJO
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   Posted 2/9/2009 6:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Am I the only person who gets constipated from Vit C?  Has this happened to anyone else?
 
Kelly

Nanners
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   Posted 2/9/2009 7:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Well I was taking 500 mg of Vitamin C in the evening with food. I did not take it lastnight and am already feeling much better. So I guess this is another one to add to my do not take list. As I said in my original post I seem to be extremely suseptible to side effects from supplements. The only ones I have done well with are B12 shots, Calcium and probiotics. I think I will just stay with those. The side effects are too painful and miserable to take any others.

I remember when I quit smoking I was taking a multi vitamin to help with the effects of quitting and had no problems. But since I have had 2 resections that is one thing I notice and that is I can't take them anymore.

Thanks for your thoughts everyone.

Hugs,
Gail *Nanners*
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Anxiety/Panic Forum
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

pb4
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   Posted 2/9/2009 11:55 AM (GMT -7)   
I use 500mg too, but because it's ascorbic it's easy on the gut, makes a world of difference...plus it's nice that the one I take also has calcium.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


Nanners
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   Posted 2/9/2009 12:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Mine was ascorbic too I think, but it still didn't agree with me. I give up on supplements anymore, every single one I have tried has killed my gut. I feel better today, but I can tell my stomach is still a little irritated because it feels really sore. Tomorrow should be better.
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Anxiety/Panic Forum
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

Margie11
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   Posted 2/9/2009 12:54 PM (GMT -7)   
ascorbic acid and mineral bound ascorbate are two different forms, wirh the ascorbates being buffered with minerals.
              Never go faster than your guardian angel can fly!                  
     Be Patient And Tough, Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You
               I get by with a lotta help from my friends!     
 Crohn's DG 2003 , symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much.
      Followed SCD Strictly 2003-06, then modified by adding new things 10-12 days apart to avoid delayed reactions in the form of arthritis symptoms. Scope on 2-5-09 was great! Doc says no symptoms,No scope for 10 years!!!
                                                                                    Margie11


spookyh
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   Posted 2/9/2009 1:39 PM (GMT -7)   
According to this website about Ester C: http://www.ester-c.com/pages/benefits.aspx

Non-Acidic and Gentle on the Stomach
In a recently published study, individuals sensitive to acidic foods were given one gram of vitamin C as ascorbic acid or as Ester-C®. Subjects reported heartburn “significantly more frequent and severe after intake of ascorbic acid” and subjects rated Ester-C® as tolerated “very good” significantly more than ascorbic acid.² So for anyone who has difficulty tolerating vitamin C, it's comforting to know that Ester-C® is non-acidic and gentle on the stomach.

Margie11
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   Posted 2/9/2009 7:21 PM (GMT -7)   

Gail,

   Please remember to watch the sugar alcohols (like sorbitol) they are bad, bad, bad, and I think could blow my remission with a quickness, even as good as my scope was last Thursday. These may be worse than the Vit "C" flush. Please watch for them so they don't spoil your good time on your trip. These are not for Crohnies like us!

   Check out the sit below, under SUGAR ALCOHOLS AND HEALTH, and check out the different names of all of them at the very bottom of the page.

 http://www.ific.org/publications/factsheets/sugaralcoholfs.cfm

also the page below under this title:Splenda and IBS

http://www.helpforibs.com/news/newsletter/06/090506.html#askheather



              Never go faster than your guardian angel can fly!                  
     Be Patient And Tough, Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You
               I get by with a lotta help from my friends!     
 Crohn's DG 2003 , symptoms included terrible joint and soft tissue pain, just met first cousin who suffers from Reactive Arthritis-explains sooo much.
      Followed SCD Strictly 2003-06, then modified by adding new things 10-12 days apart to avoid delayed reactions in the form of arthritis symptoms. Scope on 2-5-09 was great! Doc says no symptoms,No scope for 10 years!!!
                                                                                    Margie11

Post Edited (Margie11) : 2/9/2009 7:39:21 PM (GMT-7)


Nanners
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   Posted 2/10/2009 8:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I am not going to try anyother supplements. I give, every single one I have tried made me sick!! Not worth it in my book. JMHO
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Anxiety/Panic Forum
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

karendee
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   Posted 2/10/2009 10:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Nanners,
So sorry to hear about your Mom. I know that is tough.
 
As for the vitamins, some really make me sick too. this also includes some over the counter meds. I also can even get some terrible heartburn as well with them.
 
maybe you can just try to add some food that have more Vitamin C. My son's doc suggested adding ketchup when he was low in iron and now he adds it to everything. you may not tolerate ketchup or like it but it is one option.
 
Sorry the vitamins that are supposed to be good for you make you sick. I know how that feels. I never take extra Vitamin C, it makes me very sick!
Karen

 ...

Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


Nanners
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   Posted 2/10/2009 10:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I love ketchup Karendee, but it doesn't like me at all. But thanks for the suggestion!
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Anxiety/Panic Forum
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*
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