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Homeboy
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   Posted 3/2/2009 12:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Guys;

I been having troubles, and think my gall bladder could be the source. I am having horrible pain, almost like attacks. It causes me to vomit, and experience really bad nausea. Phenergen barely is able to help out. The pain usually lasts 30 mins to several hours. I have stopped my imuran 2 days ago, and that has made it a bit better. I am not sure if it is Imuran doing this. I have read some on it, and having crohn's seems to put me at even more risk for gall bladder problems. It doesn't seem to matter what I eat, or if I eat.

I am having a scan done tomorrow to see what is going on. I do remember several years ago while at a hospital after a cat scan, they said that I had gall stones, and not much else about it.

I am wondering what could cause so MUCH pain. My blood count is fine, cbc is good.

Anyone experience gall stones, or gall bladder issues?
CD dx @ 13 (1987)
Prednisone 15mg every other day
Imuran 100mg day
Celexa 20mg day
Pain Meds
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Nanners
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   Posted 3/2/2009 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Where was the pain located at? If it was your upper right side radiating towards your back/shoulder blade, then I would think gallbladder. If the pain was closer to your belly button and the pain came in waves much like labor pains do, then I would lean towards an obstruction. Be interested in hearing what they think is going on. Hope you get some answers soon.

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Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

Homeboy
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   Posted 3/2/2009 2:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't have the right shoulder pain. I do have left shoulder pain.

It's more in the middle, my stomach. Phenergen helps with the pain sometimes as it seems to numb my stomach up.

It seems to come at the same time everyday around 5pm, when I normally take Imuran. It seemed to be MUCH, MUCH worse shortly after taking Imuran. It almost seemed like Imuran was provoking them, I dunno. Stopping Imuran has made the attacks not last as long, and yesterday I almost made it without having one. This isn't something totally new, but the intensity of the attacks lately, and their timing is new.

I just ate a really fatty meal, beef tacos, and rice carryout from a mexican restaurant, and no problems other than my typical having to go to the bathroom midway through the meal.

Glad to be having the scan tomorrow, my paper says Abdominal Ultrasound, do not eat 6-8 hours prior to the exam.

Will keep this updated, and if anyone else has experience with gall bladder troubles, please feel free to post them.
CD dx @ 13 (1987)
Prednisone 15mg every other day
Imuran 100mg day
Celexa 20mg day
Pain Meds
Vitamins + B12 Injections Once Per Week


goldy3
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Total Posts : 139
   Posted 3/2/2009 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I had to have my gallbladder out feb2007....I had pain in my upper abdomen, under my right breast and radiating towards the middle btw my two breasts...It gave me severe nausea...bloating... pain was different times of the day....my GI says it's not uncommon with people with UC and Crohn's...good luck with the test...oh and by the way...I started imuran two weeks ago and after 1 week I was having severe upper abdominal pain and back pain similar to what was going on with my gallbladder...I stopped the med and the pain went away....so maybe it is the med...I wish you well and a speedy recovery...

annyb
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   Posted 3/2/2009 4:50 PM (GMT -7)   
I have heard that gall bladder pain hurts all the way through and causes horrible gas and indigestion. I'll be interested to hear how things turn out. Good Luck.
Crohn's Disease - 29 years
Diagnosed at age 10 in 1979
1st ileosecal resection 1989
2nd colon resection 1993
Chronic "D" and arthritis
Chronic rectal stricture with colonoscopy every 3 months to dialate
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Homeboy
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   Posted 3/3/2009 4:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the replies, and thank you goldy3 for sharing.

I do wonder what role Imuran is playing in this, but for now I am content with stopping it until things are sorted out. Think I been on it for 2 or 3 years now.

I got the scan done, and the person doing it said there were stones present, and let me view them on the screen. She also told me about her gall bladder surgery, no vomiting, just intense pain, and I had a great experience overall. It was done at my g.i. docs office, who shares a floor of the hospital with several other doctors.

I won't know the full results until I talk with my g.i. tomorrow. I am hoping they will just remove the gall bladder via same day surgery this week or next while I have some motivation, and a wee bit of excitement about having the surgery done.
CD dx @ 13 (1987)
Prednisone 15mg every other day
Imuran 100mg day
Celexa 20mg day
Pain Meds
Vitamins + B12 Injections Once Per Week


Homeboy
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   Posted 3/11/2009 5:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Guys;

I seen my g.i. today, seems like it has taken me six months to get in to see the busy man... Things went VERY WELL!!!

He started off with "your gallbladder, and MANY, MULTIPLE stones", then quickly moved to what do you want to do.

I had my mind made up already, and blurted out surgery, lets get rid of the thing, he said, I agree, and went into stories about gang green, and other possible issues if I were to leave it in. I am sitting here in pain, and kinda smiling about it, as I break a phenergen tablet in half trying to prevent the awful nausea from creeping up; I am thinking aloud to my gallbladder, go ahead buddy, do your worst, the clock is ticking on you my friend.

Looking back on things, I believe alot of my pain and misery for several years, has come from this gallbladder. My blood tests come back good, my last colon test, thinking sept. 08, came back good. I think you get the idea that I want this thing out of me.

I am actually excited about life again. I am confident I can get off prednisone too. It's been a long time since I was truly happy, and full of hope. I believe that I can have an actual life. I can have relationships with people, go out and date, work on my body in the gym again, and so much more to look forward too, without having to worry about these stupid gallbladder attacks bringing me to tears.

I am going to see the surgeon, who was hand selected by my g.i. doc, this friday. My g.i. even got on the phone during my appointment with him, called up the surgeon, who was at home, and got me in asap. I am hoping my surgery will be next week, I mean, geez, afterall... I need to get started on my new life right away. :)

Staying positive, and I hope everyone here is doing good today, or at least smiling on the inside.


yeah
CD dx @ 13 (1987)
Prednisone 15mg every other day
Imuran 100mg day
Celexa 20mg day
Pain Meds
Vitamins + B12 Injections Once Per Week


Kittikatt
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Date Joined Jul 2004
Total Posts : 422
   Posted 3/11/2009 6:17 PM (GMT -7)   
In August last year, I started having this upper, middle-of-the-breastbone burning/aching/gnawing pain. It started out lasting about 15-30 minutes. I'd go days without the pain...then it'd come back. Go a week without it, then it'd come back for a few days in a row. Then the pain started lasting longer so I started taking TUMS, as if that might help. Once the pain was gone, though, the rest of the day was fine so I sort of just forgot about it.

Then one day in September the pain lasted for 8 hours straight. Kept me home from work. I called and left a message with my GI's nurse. Never heard back from her. I know better than to NOT call back and say, "HEY, YOU DIDN'T RETURN MY CALL" but I was feeling better! In fact, I didn't have the pain again for another 2 weeks after I first called! So I was feeling stupid and paranoid.

The pain came and went throughout October & November. In December, I had an appointment with my GI anyway, so I mentioned the pain then. "Hmmmm..." he said. "I don't know what that could be". He suggested I take another Omeprazole before I ate. I really didn't think THAT was going to help...and it didn't.

So I continued to suffer with the pain throughout the holidays. Finally, the pain was lasting 3 hours every day starting in January. So I started to self-diagnose. I requested an HPylori blood test thinking I had a stomach ulcer, because that's what the pain felt like. What should have been a 2-day wait for results took 2 WEEKS to find out the HPylori was negative (there was a computer problem the day I had my blood draw).

It took another week and a half to hear back from my GI. He asked me on the phone the same questions he asked me in December. This time, though, he scheduled me for an Upper Endoscopy and a Gall Bladder Ultrasound.

I got in that same day for the ultrasound and dern if I didn't have gall stones. I was shocked. I was certain I didn't have any. 3 days later my GI had the stones results. He called to say, "Well, you got gall stones! We need to get that thing taken out!" He's certain the pain I was having was caused by the stones. I'm still not convinced but even if the stones weren't causing that pain, I realize I DO have gall stones and because of that, it needs to come out.

The Upper Endoscopy was cancelled. If I still have the burning pain after the gall bladder comes out, they'll reschedule the Endoscopy to see what's going on. Unfortunately, they weren't able to schedule me for surgery for another MONTH. In the meantime, my bowels have been giving me fits, I've had massive fatigue from dehydration and malabsorbtion...I'm also having problems with vomiting while BM'ing it. I think I'll start a thread about that...

Good luck with your surgery...I love your positive attitude! That's the way I'm looking at my GB removal, too. Get that thing out and things will start getting better!
Diagnosed in October, 2004 at age 32.
37/F/SC
Current Rx's: Colazal (generic), Omeprazole, Ferrous Sulfate, Librax, One-A-Day multivitamin, Probiotic, Omega-3 Fish Oil, Vitamin D, Vitamin A, Calcium-Magnesium-Zinc, Cranberry pills
Secondary conditions: mouth ulcers, joint pain, swelling ankles, extreme fatigue
Previous/occasional Rx's: 20mg Prednisone taper, Flagyl, Levaquin
No surgeries to date


catpower
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 192
   Posted 3/11/2009 8:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi HomeBoy. I am having very similar symptoms. The only difference is no shoulder pain and my blood work does indicate inflammation. I am also wondering if this is a flare or my gall bladder - the symptoms of what I am experiencing are so similar. Plus, this is different than any flare I've ever had. I am gonna ask my GI to do a gall bladder scan. I'd be excited to know there is a potential end to feeling like this too! Good luck!
Diagnosed with Crohn's Disease; Meds: Entocort & Asacol; female in late 20s.


Homeboy
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   Posted 3/15/2009 10:47 AM (GMT -7)   
I met with my surgeon friday. He came into the room with two bright eyed, bushy tailed students.

They all seemed interested in asking me questions about crohns disease, to which I kindly replied the answers. He was an older doctor, white hair on his face and head, with little skulls on his cap.(For some reason I thought oh no, it's Dr. House)

He was especially interested in my scar. Making comments that it must have been done in a pediatric hospital. My eyes opened up a bit more, my interest peaked, what the hell, how could he know that. Then he said, on adults they tend to make incisions up and down, or vertical, on children they tend to make them across, or horizontal. He said don't worry, you won't have a scar like that railroad track across your abdomen from me, as he opened up a little booklet with pictures showing me how it would be done, and what would be done.

The surgeon then turned to his students and said, of course this man has gall stones, he had colon surgery some 20yrs ago, I would be shocked if he didn't have stones. Then he said, now tell me why he has them. Oooh this guy was good, as all went quiet in the room. Then he said, On monday, you will tell me the answer, with a big smile on his face. I wanted to know the answer, but didn't want to spoil anything for the students. I will ask him thursday for that answer, but in the meantime, good luck to anyone reading this post, and wanting to get an abdominal scan done. tongue
CD dx @ 13 (1987)
Prednisone 15mg every other day
Imuran 100mg day
Celexa 20mg day
Pain Meds
Vitamins + B12 Injections Once Per Week


Chasity102304
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Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 165
   Posted 3/20/2009 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I just found out on Tuesday that I have gall bladder disease. I didn't even know a disease exsisted..I guess I just thought that your gall bladder went bad when you got stones or something. I only spoke to a nurse who told me about the disease (I'll see the surgeon on 3/31) but I know when I had the ultrasound done, everything was fine and there were no stones. 3 days later I had a HIDA scan and results were positive for some big words that amounted to gall bladder disease. I'm not excited about the surgery, but I'm ready to be pain free. AND glad this wasn't an obstruction or something else crohn's related.
Fibromyalgia DX March 2003
Crohn's DX Jan 2006 (Symptoms since 96-Misdiagnosed as "female" problems-Major flare during pregnancy in 05 which lead to DX)
1st resection July 2007
Currently on Remicade/8 weeks


Homeboy
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   Posted 3/20/2009 4:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Guys, I am back from my surgery :)

Everything went well, I came home yesterday. Laproscopy. The surgeon did have to try 3 times, in different places throughout my abdomen, 3 small cuts. The belly button was the third and final entry point that was successful. I only remember getting to the operating room, and waking up in recovery.

The surgeon said my gall bladder was obstructed.

I feel quite a bit better. I am not feeling my stomach fill up with stuff like it used to do, even when I didn't eat.

I have felt absolutely no nausea whatsoever, since I woke up from the surgery, which is friggn awesome. No phenergen yesterday, and so far so good none today.

I am sore from the surgery, it's hard to move around, but that should go away in a week or so I hope.

The only problem I had was trying to pee, after the surgery. It took me several hours to make urine.

I got the answer to WHY I had gallstones. Whenever a patient loses their terminal illiem(spelling), it creates an imbalance. I was 15 when I lost mine.

The terminal illiem does alot, and helps to keep the bile salts, and other things balanced, which can create stones. Without the terminal illiem, it takes about 10 yrs. on average for stones to develop.

Good Luck to you Chastity. Maybe you can get same day surgery, and get that thing out.

:)
CD dx @ 13 (1987)
Prednisone 8mg every other day
Imuran 100mg day -- Stoppped March 09
Celexa 20mg day
Pain Meds -- Morphine Sulfate
Vitamins + B12 Injections Once Per Week
Gallbladder Resection -- 3/19/09 -- Fingers crossed


Nanners
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Date Joined Apr 2005
Total Posts : 14995
   Posted 3/20/2009 5:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Glad to hear you are feeling better. I had to have my gb out after my first resection. Makes sense now why it went bad. Don't push yourself to hard, take time to recoup.
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Anxiety/Panic Forum
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*
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