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dorri
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   Posted 3/8/2009 3:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I caught a intestinal virus and been sick for almost 2 weeks now.  I can't tell if it is the crohn's flaring up, a bladder infection or a bowel infection?   I have some backpain with it and abdominal discomfort.   It's different this time as I am getting totally exhausted with the runs and keep getting body chills.  The doctor is almost positive that I have a bladder infection and gave me ciprofloxacin but it is causing me excessive watery diarrhea and is exhausting me so I quit taking it.  . 
I'm not convinced it's a bladder infection and think something is going on with my bowel.  Test results should come back this week to show if it is a UTI.
 
My question is there any difference in symptoms between a bowel infection vs the inflammation of crohn's disease or do they both feel basically the same.  I well know what it feels like to have inflammation of the bowel but the chills, don't know if I've ever had them so bad?


gachrons
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   Posted 3/8/2009 4:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Are you taking tylenol for the chills sounds like a fever going on there.. are you able to take imodium for a short time?... Not sure what you should do but sure hope things look up soon for you ... lol gail
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Valerie3
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   Posted 3/8/2009 4:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Well if it makes you feel any better, I have often had chills when my pain is at its worst. I'd wait for the test results, but it could be something bowel related. I've never had chills with a bladder infection, but I've only had 2 in my life.

dorri
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   Posted 3/8/2009 6:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Can't take imodium because of intestinal narrowing. I don't have a high fever or anything like that...it's usually slightly under the norm or slightly above but not consistent. I don't know where these icy feelings and other symptoms are coming from. My legs are icy cold at this moment. Lasts a while and then it's okay, only to return again.
Maybe the test results will provide some answers. Thanks



patientspiders
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   Posted 3/8/2009 6:36 PM (GMT -7)   
If I'm flaring really bad, as it sounds like you may be, I can get very bad chills without any accompanying fever. If anything, my body temp is usually CRAZY low at those times... I've never had a bladder infection, though, so I'm not sure how those symptoms may factor in.

So, it is possible that it is "just a flare" and not an infection. Hope you hear back one way or the other soon...
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tbraz
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   Posted 3/8/2009 8:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Have they tested for Cdiff? It has the same symptoms, but can only be cured with strong antibiotics and is very contagious. I was always tested for this during a flare up before starting any meds which always came back negative.

Usually you know it when you have a bladder infection because of the spasms, frequent urination and/or blood in the urine. They can dip your urine and find out immediately if there is unnoticeable blood. Mid back pain can be cause by a kidney stone/infection which could along with a severe UTI.

Hope you get this under control soon.
Theresa

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dorri
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   Posted 3/8/2009 8:51 PM (GMT -7)   
No, the doctor hasn't tested for Cdiff?  If my UT tests come back normal then it may very well be my bowel causing the problem in which case I will need to contact my GI and testing around here is slow.
 
I have one week to get better because soon I will be going out of town for a week.  In this state it is doubtful if I will be able to go? 
 
I forgot to mention that the lab is cultering it, to see if and what kind of bacteria I have.  I think this takes a few days.
 
 



dorri
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   Posted 3/10/2009 11:15 AM (GMT -7)   
It wasn't a UTI so that has been ruled out. Perhaps it's just a crohn's flare?
Could my chills be caused by a weakened immune system?


snohare
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   Posted 3/10/2009 11:20 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm with Patientspiders, if I am really ill it is more chills I get. I do get fevers sometimes, and they are usually with chills, but the worst chills are definitely related to inflammation in my gut and constant trips to the bathroom. Feeling icy cold is just part and parcel of that for me.

dorri
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   Posted 3/10/2009 12:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the advice.

I was thinking, when we have flares and need to run to the washroom multiple times, we are dehydrating ourselves so our blood volume is less not to mention our overall fluids, which may result in chills when the body attempts to balance out that loss.


Veeka Vampire Volkova
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   Posted 3/10/2009 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello

I was recently ill in the night, I had back pain, abdo pain and chills and almost passed out - my wife called my an ambulance and was taken to A&E - They did an X ray and it came back ok but they told me I had a kidney infection.... I was given antibiotics to take for my kidneys but after I finished the 1 week course I felt no better - I went to my GP and he gave me a different antibiotic but it made no difference and made my pain worse so I stopped taking them. I found out that they can affect ASACOL so I was not pleased the stupid new GP gave me them!

Its been 1 week since I stopped taking the antibiotics from my GP - I still feel no better I have back pain abdo pain and now vomiting with it and sleepless nights due to discomfort and pain.

My X Rays showed up nothing so I am unsure if this is a Crohns related incident or not, I don't know what to do!

Advice anyone?

Celey
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   Posted 3/10/2009 2:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Umm... Veeka... I don't mean to be rude or anything... but... You didn't really address Dorri's posts at all... It's... not very polite to hijack someone's thread by posting what you posted in another thread... I mean, you can say you sympathize or have similar symptoms and uncertainty... but... Just out and out ignoring the poster isn't very polite... Just a future reference since you're new here... And don't worry, someone will respond to your thread... I already have...

Dorri, that sounds like an interesting theory, but I've gotten chills before and I don't have diarrhea associated with my Crohn's.... I had an infection in my intestines... and I think it must have had something to do with the chills....
I think I am being picked on by life, sometimes. But's that okay. Life and I are good buddies... I know life doesn't mean no harm. It just is the way it is. I can accept that.


Veeka Vampire Volkova
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   Posted 3/10/2009 4:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello

I did not mean to "Hijack" someones post, I am new to this forum, Yes all I was trying to say was that I sympathize with Dorri

I'm sorry sad

dorri
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   Posted 3/10/2009 5:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all for the advice, it is most appreciated.

Veeka, kidney infections can have very serious consequences, even causing permanent damage to the kidney's so it would be wise for you to get retested to make sure the infection is gone. If you still have it then maybe the doctor can prescribe something more tolerable for you.

Too, sometimes pain in the abdominal region can seem like an infection in one area, but since all those organs are in such close proximity, it can be any one or the other causing the problem. The doctor was convinced I had a bladder infection, since some of the symptoms were alike but I didn't, he was wrong. I've had this problem before where they thought I had a UTI but it was bowel inflammation instead.
Good luck and hope you feel better soon.


Valerie3
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   Posted 3/10/2009 6:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Dorri - The easiest way to tell if it's a bladder infection (at least for me) is if it burns when you pee and if you constantly feel like you need to but you can't get anything out. I would say that it is almost certainly bowel inflammation, as I stated before. Chills may be a new symptom for you, but they are extremely common with flares from what I've heard from others and experienced myself. I would suggest trying to see your G.I. as soon as possible to get it sorted out if you haven't already. Hope you feel better soon!

dorri
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   Posted 3/10/2009 6:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone.

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