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conorconan1
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   Posted 4/8/2009 1:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Guy's,
 
I am AMAZED today! When I was leaving hospital, my doctor told me a secret that the hospital/pharm wouldn't, and told me to try the Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS). He swore by it. So, I ordered it up and have been using it for two weeks now, and I swear to GOD it works. I have NOT had to take a pill for 10 days, and my body has never felt as good. Guy's, I have no pain at all. No side effects no nothing. Guys, PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE try it.
 
God Bless
 
Conor
DX November 2008 - after years of searching for an answer
 
Prednisolone back up to 60mg as of the 24/2  asacol, 3000mg -Omeprazole 40mg (according to doc, it helps with intestine ulcers) - Buscopan 10mg (a daily) Remedeine 30mg-Probiotic


snohare
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   Posted 4/8/2009 2:34 AM (GMT -7)   
idea If there is one thing modern non-organic food, and diarrhoeac Crohnies are short on, it is minerals. I can well see how a good mineral supplement would work. eyes For those whose guts are still in good enough shape to absorb said supplement. yeah Sounds like it hit the sweet spot with Conor ! smilewinkgrin

pb4
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   Posted 4/8/2009 10:04 AM (GMT -7)   
I'd probably try it...where do you get it and is it expensive and how much do you take?

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


aoccc
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   Posted 4/8/2009 11:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Looked up the website...kinda looks like one of those pyramid schemes lol
SCD since 01, remission since 01, occasional Arby's breaks :)


pb4
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   Posted 4/8/2009 11:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Well that (pyramid schemes) I'm not into, only if it's legit I'll try it.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


78SilvAnniv
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   Posted 4/8/2009 11:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Is this the site/product?
http://miraclemineral.us/about.xo
...I'm not so sure about this, I'll need to read some more...
From the site:
[quote]Premium water purification.
Miracle Mineral Solution is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite in distilled water. Miracle Mineral Solution is a water purification product. It is NOT a mineral supplement nor is it sold as a mineral supplement of any kind. Though often referred to in acronym (i.e. "MMS"), an important distinction must be made between Miracle Mineral Solution and the "MMS Protocol" established elsewhere and detailed exhaustively by third party sources.


A link that tells more about how to use MMS:
http://www.miraclemineral.org/importantinfo.php#q2
I have the ability of single-minded determination and accurate project focu....Hey, look, a cat!
 
Crohn's and UC are pretty darn crappy, but if you can't laugh at yourself, you'll cry......I'd much rather laugh.
2001 Dx'd with UC.  No remission.  No improvement with Remicade.  5/2008 surgery, removal of 6" of left side colon.  Dx changed to Crohn's.  Remission for 8-9wks after surgery, symptoms returned after resuming 6MP.  Changed maintenance med to Methotrexate (MTX) and had great results with IM injections.  Nausea and symptoms returning with oral MTX.  Switched back to IM injections and am slowly improving.


Celey
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   Posted 4/8/2009 11:43 AM (GMT -7)   
So.... It's basically bottled water??? Errr... well... I think staying hydrated is important.... //>.>\\'
I think I am being picked on by life, sometimes. But's that okay. Life and I are good buddies... I know life doesn't mean no harm. It just is the way it is. I can accept that.


pb4
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   Posted 4/8/2009 12:05 PM (GMT -7)   

This is what I found on it....

 

 

Caution flags often rise immediately when the term “miracle” is used to describe anything that amazes us, or when we don’t understand how it does what it does. In this case, it is indeed amazing. However, an explanation of why MMS is so effective as a pathogen destroyer is possible. It’s not the MMS that destroys pathogens; the chlorine dioxide does that. When you understand the chemistry, you’ll see that it’s not a miracle… it just seems like one.
Activated MMS is harnessed by the immune system, to kill pathogens in the human body. Much like a healthy immune system does, this oxidiser attacks germs, bacteria and viruses that are harmful to the body; without affecting healthy cells. It can assist the immune system in combating problems as simple as a common cold….

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Chlorine dioxide is a chemical compound that consists of one chlorine ion bound to two ions of oxygen. Using the MMS protocol, you will produce chlorine dioxide in the range of 1ppm.
The MMS solution is 28% sodium chlorite in distilled water. You can produce chlorine dioxide with a single drop, when an “activator” of vinegar, lemon juice, or a 10% solution of citric acid is added.
“Applications” of chlorine dioxide range from 1 drop to a maximum of 15, except in life critical situations, where the maximum may be doubled. A “maintenance application” is six drops, with ½ teaspoon (30 drops) of activator added. After adding the activator, the chemical reaction that turns sodium chlorite into chlorine dioxide takes only three minutes.
The activating ingredient in vinegar that makes the change possible is acetic acid. It also sets the stage for what happens when the chlorine dioxide ions enter the bloodstream. This weak acid acts like a blasting cap by lowering the pH of the chlorine dioxide, without setting it off. The natural pH of sodium chlorite is 13. Adding vinegar, lemon juice, or citric acid creates about 3 mg of unstable but still harmless chlorine dioxide.


When a chlorine dioxide ion contacts a harmful pathogen, it instantly rips up to five electrons from the pathogen, in what can be likened to a microscopic explosion… harmless to us, but terminal for pathogens. The pathogen – an electron donor – is rendered harmless due to the involuntary surrendering of its electrons to the chlorine dioxide – an electron acceptor – and the resulting release of energy. Oxidised by the chlorine ion, the former pathogen becomes a harmless salt.
This process benefits a body that has become toxic.

Once it is introduced into the bloodstream, chlorine dioxide performs a highly energetic acceptance of four electrons when it comes across any cell that is below a pH value of 7. This means that diseased cells are essentially vaporised (i.e., “oxidised”) while healthy cells are unaffected.

Here is how it happens.

Red blood cells that are normal carriers of oxygen throughout the body, do not differentiate between chlorine dioxide and oxygen. Therefore, after ingesting the MMS/chlorine dioxide-rich solution, red blood cells pick up chlorine dioxide ions that are deposited on the stomach wall, where it normally gathers nutrients of various kinds before journeying through the body.
Then, when the red blood cells armed with chlorine dioxide encounter parasites, fungi, or diseased cells that all have low pH and a positive ionic charge, the “aliens” are destroyed along with the chlorine dioxide ion. If no such encounters occur, the chlorine dioxide will be carried to a point in the body where oxygen normally oxidises poisons and other harmful agents.


My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


snohare
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   Posted 4/8/2009 4:40 PM (GMT -7)   
“Applications” of chlorine dioxide range from 1 drop to a maximum of 15, except in life critical situations
Somebody said...

I just had a sudden image of a pair of paramedics bending over a heart attack victim, with one saying to the other, "My God, fetch the soup spoon Bert"....tongue
Well, I've got to say the only reason I even considered this initially as anything more than spam is that it was Conor posting it, and he is a known and I would consider trustworthy face. yeah
nono But when I see the word "chlorine" in anything meant to be ingested by the human body - heck, any kind of biological being - I am immediately both extremely interested and appalled. Why ? Because chlorine is a biocide, and will kill just about anything it touches from what I have read of it. It just isn't used by Mother Nature, because it kills everything that tries to use it. The only reason we humans can even make such wondrously good ideas as artificial sweeteners made from chlorinated sugar (Nutrasweet is a great antkiller, apparently shocked) is that we can harness chlorine to sugar in a pressurised stainless steel reactor vessel where chlorine's toxic reactivity will temporarily not matter. Once upon a time life on Earth had a choice of toxic reactive chemicals to use; there is good reason why all forms of life chose oxygen rather than chlorine.
But anything that clobbers pathogens inside macrophages gets my vote, because I am convinced that Crohn's in some cases at least, and mine in particular, is caused by Mycobacterium avium Paratuberculosis lurking inside those immune system cells, attracted by (and causing) the inflammatory cascade started by faulty genes like NOD2.
In the absence of any anti-MAP antibiotic therapy in my medical area, and convinced there is little chance of one for years yet, I am actually quite keen to try this idea.
eyes I have two big problems here though. Firstly, who says that the only things in the human body in the correct state to be clobbered by chlorine in this or its' breakdown forms are pathogens ? What evidence is there ? The manufacturers of Nutrasweet may have done their best to cleanse the internet of all references to health problems, but it is my understanding there are legal class actions in progress against them based on a long, long, long list of health problems alleged to have been caused by them. That, and my abysmally poor grasp of chemistry, is enough to give me halt. Anyone have any good answers ? That comment about
a point in the body where oxygen normally oxidises poisons
Somebody said...

seems suspiciously vague to me. I can see a scenario where the pathogens meet their high noon then the chlorine cowboys take over Tombstone via the liver, which is a wondrous thing but has not coevolved with chlorine, in common with every other form of life on this planet.
Secondly, which probably renders this dilemna hypothetical, is this even available on my side of the Atlantic ? Many things you guys can get only with difficulty are in effect impossible to find in the UK. I don't see airlines being too keen to ship chlorine products either, I'd imagine they are up there with mercury on the list of chemicals you want to avoid spilling on a modern airliner.

FitzyK23
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   Posted 4/8/2009 5:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Snohare, are you "Somebody?" I'm confused. If this is a supplement as opposed to a medicine I am guessing anyone could buy it and mail it anywhere. But I'm not expert in that field so I could be wrong.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


snohare
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   Posted 4/8/2009 5:54 PM (GMT -7)   
idea OOPS ! Sorry, what I meant to have inside quote boxes, ended up the only things outside them.
(You should see me when I'm moving house. shakehead) If a moderator knows how to sort that, please do so, I am thoroughly confused about what I did wrong.
Having looked online, I can see it is available in the UK. But because I simply don't understand what exactly ions are, and no doubt other things too - basically ignorance of all things chemical, as opposed to biochemical - I have no way of spotting flaws in all the reassurance, which may just be hand-waving malarkey for all I know. There are some specific ideas used that really concern me, eg:
1 If it is an effective cleaner and pathogen killer in hospital wards it makes sense it would work internally. eyes Oh great, let's all take swigs of dilute carbolic acid, the original basis of all antiseptic surgery ! This, coming from a website that cannot spell "pH".
2 Cures malaria, hepatitis and AIDS in Malawi - hmm, that hotbed of education and medical research where no erroneous ideas about AIDS are known to circulate. Good job all these pathogens so conveniently stay at a different pH from us, eh. I wonder what mitochondria do inside our cells, since they are basically remnants of trapped bacteria ? Might make my screw up with text boxes pale by comparison... skull
3 Nausea is a side effect caused by detoxification. Well, I am familiar with the Jarisch- Herxheimer reaction ("Herxing") and I can see why the medical profession is so wary of the whole concept. In essence, it turns medical orthodoxy upside down - being ill may make you dysfunctional, but it won't make you feel sick. It is only the body responding that makes you feel sick. Ergo, feeling nauseated is a sign of something going right. Well, I am simply unsure about that, I reckon it is ambiguous. Having just read a simple primer on toxicology recently, I can see how nausea might simply be a result of the particular form a poison takes - whether it is the original substance that causes the ill effects, or the breakdown products when the body or something else reacts with it. The result being that sometimes nausea is caused by the original substance's effects, sometimes it is caused by an immunological or physiological reaction to the substance breaking it up. There is not a hard and fast rule. Some antidotes need to break poisons down, some try to preserve them intact; how lucky do we feel with chlorine dioxide ?
Is my logic at all erroneous here ? Anyone here see holes you can drive a truck through ?
An hour ago I thought I was thinking particularly clearly, but now the brain fog has descended upon me. I made the mistake of googling "myeloperoxidase deficiency", I can feel a chlorine induced headache coming on.... smilewinkgrin

broomhilda
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   Posted 4/16/2009 7:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't even bathe in chlorine! I sure as heck wouldn't ingest it! To each his own...this is what makes us all individuals.
Dx'd Jan'06, 1st Resection 7/06, Humira, Imuran, B12 injections, Nexium, Lexapro, Nulev, Glucosamine, Multi-Vitamin, Calcium Citrate, Ultracet. Secondary conditions: Psorasis, Osteoarthritis, Fibromyalgia, Lactose Intolerant, gallstones, kidney stones & peri-menopausal.


Rider Fan
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   Posted 4/16/2009 8:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Any update Conor?
32 y/o male. Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: Humira 2/27/09. 17.5mg prednisone. Udo's Choice Probiotics (30 billion). Can't tolerate any iron supplements or infusions.

Tried SCD, didn't work, now avoiding gluten and dairy.
 
Go Saskatchewan Roughriders!


Miss3
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   Posted 4/20/2009 5:03 PM (GMT -7)   
So happy someone else here brought this up! I have been taking MMS for several months now with tremendous results. It was mentioned on another forum and I looked into it and it has done wonders for me thus far. I have to caution anyone that does decide to try MMS that it is very potent, will probably cause herx reactions, do not start with any more than one drop! MMS must be mixed one drop of mms to five drops of the activator. My personal dosage started at one drop per day for three days then increasing by one drop every three days. I take off five days after every twelve as to not develop an allergy to it. I am currently up to ten drops morning and evening. My husband is also using mms for lyme and yeast issues. I'm anxious to hear from anyone else trying it and how you are making out with it.
 
Miss
 
36 yr. old homeschooling mom of 3
Diagnosed Crohn's 06/08, then UC 08/08
Asacol made me worse, reactions to Remicade
Currently taking LDN, feeling pretty good
Probiotic, Omega 3, Digestive enzymes


Rider Fan
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   Posted 4/20/2009 6:25 PM (GMT -7)   
When you say success can you be more specific? What symptoms has it stopped?
32 y/o male. Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: Humira 2/27/09. 15mg prednisone. Udo's Choice Probiotics (30 billion). Can't tolerate any iron supplements or infusions.

Tried SCD, didn't work, now avoiding gluten and dairy.


Go Saskatchewan Roughriders!


Miss3
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   Posted 4/21/2009 7:06 AM (GMT -7)   
I had major bleeding issues, was severely anaemic. This was initially brought under control by remicade but then restarted and I had too many sides from the remi. I have been on LDN since mid-November and started the MMS mid-February. I have noticed the greatest improvement with the bleeding the past two months since starting the MMS. I can tell by the herx that it's working for me. I don't normally have diarrhea at all anymore except when I restart after my five days off, I'm assuming that's the dieoff since that's the only time I get it. Before the MMS I was still going 3-4 times a day, sometimes diarrhea but mostly always mushy anyway. Now I have two completely formed bm's most days with no visible blood, woohoo for me.
Conor, please jump back in here for an update, I'm anxious to hear how you are doing since your last post!
 
Miss
 
36 yr. old homeschooling mom of 3
Diagnosed Crohn's 06/08, then UC 08/08
Asacol made me worse, reactions to Remicade
Currently taking LDN, feeling pretty good
Probiotic, Omega 3, Digestive enzymes


ExJohnson
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   Posted 4/21/2009 2:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Miss 3, would you mind letting me know exactly which mineral supplement you are taking? THe brand name and where you buy it from and everything, if it's not too much. Thanks!!
I am a pre-30yr. old who has been diagnosed with Crohn's for 14 years.  Symptoms change from cramping and weight loss to severe anemia with fatigue and diarrhea. 
I'm DONE (D-O-N-E, DONE!!!) with immuno-suppressants.  Tremble, yee Pharmacuetical companies, for you will not withstand the aggressive onslaught of our healing!
new prescription from natural doc,
3.5 grams Chlorella daily.
4.5 mg Low Dose Naltrexone nightly. 


Miss3
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   Posted 4/21/2009 3:49 PM (GMT -7)   

No problem. The one I'm taking came from my kinesiologist but the bottle says MMS Professional PGL International and there's a site and number on the back of the bottle. The MMS is dosed one drop to five drops of the citric acid so you would only need one bottle of the mms and one activator kit since the activator makes several bottles. For the results we've seen so far I think it's been extremely cheap, around twenty-five bucks plus shipping. I really recommend getting one of the books or talking to someone with some knowledge on it before just starting it and start very slowly.

www.mmsmiracle.com

1-888-349-9482

Miss
 
36 yr. old homeschooling mom of 3
Diagnosed Crohn's 06/08, then UC 08/08
Asacol made me worse, reactions to Remicade
Currently taking LDN, feeling pretty good
Probiotic, Omega 3, Digestive enzymes


ExJohnson
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   Posted 4/21/2009 7:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Miss, I saw you're on LDN like me, and though I'm doing well, I'd like to do great. Sounds like you have a potent formula there, with the LDN and the MMS. I was on Remicade earlier this year, it had stopped working for me. But I'm okay with that. Anyways, thanks for the info, I will definitely check it out. Is there a particular book you recommend?

Also, do you find that in the summer you're healthier? It's like a pendulum for me, I wonder how much my Crohn's is connected with Vitamin D. Winter is sick, summer is health. Seasons, indeed.


I am a pre-30yr. old who has been diagnosed with Crohn's for 14 years.  Symptoms change from cramping and weight loss to severe anemia with fatigue and diarrhea. 
I'm DONE (D-O-N-E, DONE!!!) with immuno-suppressants.  Tremble, yee Pharmacuetical companies, for you will not withstand the aggressive onslaught of our healing!
new prescription from natural doc,
3.5 grams Chlorella daily.
4.5 mg Low Dose Naltrexone nightly. 


Miss3
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   Posted 4/22/2009 5:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Also, do you find that in the summer you're healthier? It's like a pendulum for me, I wonder how much my Crohn's is connected with Vitamin D. Winter is sick, summer is health. Seasons, indeed
 
My problems just started the beginning of December 07 with a stomache bug that never cleared up entirely I guess. I went to see a GI last spring and by the end of summer I was in the hospital at their mercy. I had three remi infusions, which helped at the time but then things started up again with the D and bleeding so I stopped the treatments. Since then I went on LDN mid-November of 08 then started MMS mid-Feb and have been noticeably better ever since.
My worst was over the summer but that's mostly because I kept calling the GI and they just dismissed me until I went to the ER on my own. I got nothing but worse from the time I walked in the GI's door so I haven't been to them since I stopped the remi last October. The guy I originally had there saw himself as god and you must do as I say, he even reamed me out for taking omega 3, can you believe that?
My husband has lyme, we apparently do better the alternative route since that's the only thing that has worked for either of us. He had a procedure done to zap a nerve in his head with radiation that's suppose to kill the nerve so he doesn't have excruciating pain every day. Our insurance paid out over fifty grand for that three hour out-patient procedure. He got so much worse that he couldn't even drive so back to alternative we went and within a week he could tell a difference.
 
Take care,
 
Miss
 
 
36 yr. old homeschooling mom of 3
Diagnosed Crohn's 06/08, then UC 08/08
Asacol made me worse, reactions to Remicade
Currently taking LDN, feeling pretty good
Probiotic, Omega 3, Digestive enzymes


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