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Bunks
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   Posted 4/16/2009 11:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all!
Sorry this is a bit gross.....

I'm off on a field trip with uni on Monday, for the week. We will be staying in dorms at night with (thank god!) toilet and shower blocks.
My problem is, we'll be out in the field all day with no loo access. This means going in a hole... not pleasant when you have the squirts. I'm not flaring but I still have watery, 'splattery' BMs (sorry it's the only term i could think of!), sometimes quite urgent.
Does anyone have any tips for handling this? I was thinking Imodium might help. Has anyone had any experience using it for a week? (I may need a sherpa to carry all my loo paper!)
I'm getting quite worried about having an accident in the middle of nowhere, which is stressing me out and making the squirts worse.. which is stressing me out even more...
Also has anyone had to go in a hole before? Any tips for not messing the back of your boots or jeans with the splatters?

Thanks,
Sara

ivy6
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   Posted 4/17/2009 12:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh, that's a tricky one.

Will you be wearing those waterproof leggings to protect you from snakes? If so, they might help protect you from some of the splatters.

Another thing that *might* help is inserting some sort of suppository each night, just while you're in this stressful situation. Your doctor might be able to prescribe something for you. I mention this because I find that suppositories can help with stool consistency... they do with me, anyway.

Would you be able to carry a small squirty bottle with you? That way, you'd have a better chance of cleaning off any splatters if you did get them.

Another thing I'd really, really recommend is pulling your lecturer / supervisor aside and having a really graphic discussion about your medical condition and toilet issues. Make sure you mention your fatigue and lack of stamina, if these are problems for you. I mention this because I once (stupidly) decided to act like a healthy person and go on a fortnight-long field trip, and I lasted less than a week before I crashed with exhaustion and started getting really cranky (and unpopular) and sick. If there's any way to avoid long hikes, I really recommend you take it.

Best of luck to you,

Ivy (in Aus too).
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orngie
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   Posted 4/17/2009 5:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I would definitely give Imodium a try. Maybe even try it before going to see how it affexts you and what dosage works without causing constipation.

onthecan
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   Posted 4/17/2009 7:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Bunks said...
Hi all!
Sorry this is a bit gross.....

I'm off on a field trip with uni on Monday, for the week. We will be staying in dorms at night with (thank god!) toilet and shower blocks.
My problem is, we'll be out in the field all day with no loo access. This means going in a hole... not pleasant when you have the squirts. I'm not flaring but I still have watery, 'splattery' BMs (sorry it's the only term i could think of!), sometimes quite urgent.
Does anyone have any tips for handling this? I was thinking Imodium might help. Has anyone had any experience using it for a week? (I may need a sherpa to carry all my loo paper!)
I'm getting quite worried about having an accident in the middle of nowhere, which is stressing me out and making the squirts worse.. which is stressing me out even more...
Also has anyone had to go in a hole before? Any tips for not messing the back of your boots or jeans with the splatters?

Thanks,
Sara
smilewinkgrin Hi Bunks your story sounds scary i would advise you to wear a pad like tends there good and absorb well but i don't know were you would dispose of them unless you brought a zip bag with you and the imodium works good fro me but than i have problems with hard stools after wards so be carefull not to take to many,i have never tried the retal things my retal area is to sore to insert one. If it was me i would be very nervous to go in the woods on a feild trip. Good luck with your trip Bunks. Your Friend Jenn yeah

Had Crohns 17 years had numerous bowel resections,fistulas,fissures,hemmies,kidney problems,fibro,arthritis,dignosed at 13 had GI feeding tube,nasal feeding tube,cental lines,ports,4 ruptured bowel emergency surgeries,TMJ,depression,current meds are Hydromorphone,30 ,Hydromophome,8 ,Ketoprofen,100 ,Trazadone,50 ,Lorazepam,10 ,Zopliclone,5 ,atriplyine,75 ,Losac,50 Tylenol Athritis ,B-12 injections ,Iron injections ,Gravol,75 Predisone,5mg ,Humira,40mg once a week.Still looking for the doctor with all the answers if you find him forward him to me please.P.S my bathroom is the nicest room in my house cause i spend so much time there,i am thinking about installing the computer and maybe a hot-dog stand.


HM
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   Posted 4/17/2009 8:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Immodium sounds like a good idea...I would take the min dose and see how you feel. Are you able to carry any sort of wet nap/wipe to help clean off any little messes that may get on your pants?

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Diagnosed with GERD/Acid Reflex 2002

Diagnosed with IBS 2007

Diagnosed with UC, then Crohn’s 2008

Current medications: Endcort 3mg 2X daily, Pentasa 2 500mg caps 2X daily, Prilosec 20 mg 2X daily (if needed), Probiotics, Calcuim/Mag/Vit.D. Flinstones multi with Iron and Vit. C 500mg daily


FitzyK23
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   Posted 4/17/2009 11:35 AM (GMT -7)   
If you are well hidden I would just take the pants off while you do your business. Also, what about those cute outdoorsy skirts that north face makes. That would make squatting to go a little easier because you would be covered at least. The only time I went in the woods I took my pants and underwear off and set them aside. If you were going solid it would be less of a problem.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


gachrons
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   Posted 4/17/2009 6:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Maybe a quick burst of pred for a week might work,you could ask your Dr. ..Hope you enjoy your trip lol gail
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Sniper
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   Posted 4/17/2009 8:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Now theres a term that brings back memories....Bunks ,,my doc says imodium is safe to use all the time. It works for me sometimes but not always. Hope it helps you. Bring a few garbage bags to stop the spatter when you have to go in the bush. A rolled up one helps keep the tree bark from cutting into your bottom when you are lucky enough to have a tree handy to lean on too. Good luck and let us know how things come out, ahhh, hmmm , did not mean that the way it sounds...
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Allison77
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   Posted 4/18/2009 12:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I've been there!! Again, like Ivy I decided I would be a "normal" person and bunk outside on a class trip. Well, by the 2nd day I knew every tree/bush that I could squat behind (pack a garbage bag, when you squat tuck it under your heels and yuck the other end into your waistband. Stops splatters!) Once of the prof's noticed me ducking out all day and we had a very serious, explicit discussion regarding my CD. Good luck!!
-Allison
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Dagger
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   Posted 4/18/2009 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Allison, I love the garbage bag advice! I will definitely be using that trick. Thanks.

pix
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   Posted 4/18/2009 7:31 PM (GMT -7)   

I have autoimmune hepatiis and crohn's.  I went on a wonderful cross country car trip with my son to colorado.  basically across the usa.  He understands me and knows my situation.  Things were generally ok except having to stop alot.   Sometimes I'd have to go on the side of the road in the mountains and I would be bleeding from my hemorrohids, too. from all that drivingll   Soundskinda bad, but not reallly--We didn't try to "do" many "activities", just drive around, take pictures  and go to strange restaurants.  I had active hepatitis, so I wansn't hungry, and he is a picky eater anyway''we just ate pbj and raisins and juice boxes and chips ahoy,   very good!

 

As long as everyone is ok with it, and understands,  I do love the concept of "accomodation"

 

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78SilvAnniv
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   Posted 4/18/2009 11:04 PM (GMT -7)   
In our car I have a shallow bucket with a lid. I keep it lined with a plastic bag and a roll of TP inside. My butt fits right into (on top of) the bucket and it is sturdy enough to hold my weight. I bought it at a pharmacy / medical health supply store. I think it was for sitz-baths? Using this has helped me greatly while driving. The only problems I have encountered with using it, is sometimes I am not in an area where I can pull over and discreetly use it. (too much slow/stopped traffic or buildings/businesses with windows everywhere)

BUT...I think you may be able to use *part* of my idea....pack a lot of medium sized plastic garbage bags. Get into the woods, shake it out and 'go' in the bag. No spatters anywhere. The only problem with this, is you would need to pack it out. If that is a problem, then just use the plastic bag like Allison described, using it as a protective barrier over your shoes/legs when you squat. Roll up the spattered bag and place in a ziplock.
Hm, that sounds much better than my adivce to go in the bag... Try it Allison's way.
...and take several small "travel packs" of damp baby-wipes for easy cleanup.
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Crohn's and UC are pretty darn crappy, but if you can't laugh at yourself, you'll cry......I'd much rather laugh.
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Bunks
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   Posted 4/19/2009 3:06 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks for all the advice guys! Definitely going to use that plastic bag trick! Yeah i carry a day pack so i can take wet wipes and my fav loo paper so i can be well prepared. I've used Imodium for day trips so i'll give that a whirl. Wish me luck! thanks everyone! :-)
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