Boss and HR Manager want me to get FMLA

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karendee
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   Posted 4/27/2009 1:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been absent from work a bit since the begining of the year (6.5 days). several of those days were for a bad back injury that left me laying on the couch a lot!!
 
I have been MIA from here too!
 
I have missed you guys! I am doing ok on Humira but still have bad days. Also my Dr Resigned from my Gastro office so I see a new one in May.
 
Now my boss and the HR Manager (I am the HR asst) call me in and say I have had excessive absences. I also worked from home the majority of the day when I was out. Sometimes I got more work done at home even!
 
They say I need to file for FMLA. As a person in HR I am a bit scared that my Dr will not fill out the papers correctly so that it will be approved.
 
I fight for the employees all the time but there is no one there for me. My co-worker gets to approve it as well so she will know what I have. Just great. I was not telling much but now I guess I get to.
 
oh well there is my whole whinny story.
 
I hope everyone is doing well. I am going to try to catch up on reading some posts now...
 
Karen
 

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


FitzyK23
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   Posted 4/27/2009 8:04 PM (GMT -7)   
I think it is for the best. It is there to protect you. Could you have a superior approve it rather than a lateral? Either way, remind her of the confidentiality requirements of the job and tell her you would like to keep this between the two of you.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


karendee
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   Posted 4/28/2009 5:01 AM (GMT -7)   

thanks Fitzy!

I could have my boss approve instead. I have a feeling she would just hand over to my co-worker.

I guess I am more upset because I did lots of work from home those days and the HR Manager is counting them as sick days. I am mad I could have rested those days instead of working. She even called me many times while out.

Karen


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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


FitzyK23
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   Posted 4/28/2009 8:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Well if I were you, I would say that you are willing to file for FMLA but you are contesting having the days you worked from home count against you. Rather, those are just an accommodation to your disability. Did you get paid for those days? If you are salaried did they come out of your sick days?
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


karendee
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   Posted 4/28/2009 8:50 AM (GMT -7)   

I am going to contest the work from home FMLA accommodation, good point.

On my time card I put "Worked from home" I am salaried Non-exempt. When I was called in I saw that on my absences sheet they were all sick days. That is part of why I am upset.

thanks for the advice!!

Karen


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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


ZenaWP
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   Posted 4/28/2009 10:19 AM (GMT -7)   

karendee, I'm also in HR and I'm on intermittent FMLA.  My rheumy is the one who filled out the paperwork and her office actually told me to write down whatever I wanted them to include.  I asked them to say that I needed to work intermittently when in a flare and that's exactly what she wrote.  If there is something specific you feel they need to say in order for it to get approved, just ask them.

You shouldn't be charged for the days you worked from home and you need to tell them that.  We have many employees who have worked from home when recovering from an illness and they were counted as work days.  Also, just tell your boss that you are not comfortable with your coworker seeing your personal health information.  I had that situation once before with a supervisor and the HR manager made sure that the information was only seen by her.  But, if it's stuck in your file somewhere, the coworker will be able to see it anyway if she has access to those files.  So, it all depends on how much you are willing to fight to keep her from seeing it.   


Crohn's Disease, Acid Reflux/Gastritis, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Endometriosis, Arthritis, Depression/Anxiety.  Too many meds to list them all.  =) 


karendee
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   Posted 4/28/2009 11:26 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks ZenaWP!
 
I think I will be ok with her seeing it. She is quite nosy but she seems to keep things confidential.
 
I will fight for those days from home. I did have several.
 
Also, I will let the Doc know about what I want. I have a new Doc and I sent him a note letting him know and he said he would be happy to help.
 
I guess I just worry that it won't get approved. Also the HR Manager is not budging on the days I was at home. I think that is rotten because even she called me and I helped her do some things over the phone. She knows I worked.
 
Just last week my boss stayed home all day cause there was water in her basement and her boyfriend came home to fix it. She was doing nothing. (and admitted so) OK for her but not for me with a real excuse. I think the HR manger pushed her to tell me about this absence problem. I have a feeling she would not have said a thing.
 
Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


carolinacroniegirl
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   Posted 4/29/2009 2:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Let us know how it works out for you. My Dr is suggesting I fill out an FMLA too, I am nervous to go to my HR dept. I need my job as I carry our health insurance. It is getting harder and harder to work

Becky77
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   Posted 4/29/2009 5:04 PM (GMT -7)   
I didn't know that FMLA could be denied?? Given that you do have Crohn's I thought it was a given that you were granted FMLA. Can you be denied? Just curious...
Becky

31 yr old female-dx with Crohn's in '97 after emergency resection and appendectomy, 2nd resection '05
Currently on Humira, Prilosec, Effexor, Seroquel, Calcium, Vit D, sublingual B12; phenergan, ultram, clonazepam as needed


CrohnieToo
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   Posted 4/29/2009 6:00 PM (GMT -7)   
By all means, make sure that the information provided is for INTERMITTENT FMLA. My first year using FMLA I used the full 3 months in one span as I had no idea intermittent FMLA was possible. I didn't need anywhere near the full 3 months. The next 2 years I used intermittent FMLA as needed and that worked out well.

A diplomatic reminder that your boss well knew you were working from home because she called you about your work might help. Maybe you could be approved for 1/2 day sick, 1/2 day working at home? Negotiate and split the difference??

Good luck and God bless!
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.


karendee
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   Posted 4/30/2009 5:06 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks everyone!!

I did put intermittent on the forms. that is what I need. I think you can be denied FMLA if you do not meet the criteria. I think I will meet it but I still worry.

FMLA in general is a good thing for employees. Sometimes I feel HR people are less protected because we have to turn it in to our boss or co workers.

Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


FitzyK23
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   Posted 4/30/2009 7:04 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a great idea - why don't you suggest a work exchange program where HR people handle other HR people's claims from different companies. Like as a hypo if an HR person from Walmart needs FMLA, HR at Target will decide if it is approved, and vice versa. Other organizations have reciprocity for things. Like if a cop has to go to jail in Maine, they go to Mass and in exchange Maine would take a Mass cop that had to go to jail. It is too late to help you but you might be able to get a program started to help HR folks everywhere.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


karendee
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   Posted 4/30/2009 7:43 AM (GMT -7)   

Fitzy that is a great idea!

I would even be happier if another one of our locations handled the claim for me. We have a bunch and they all know me but don't work with me daily and could be more impartial. I trust them more too!

 

Karen


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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


FitzyK23
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   Posted 4/30/2009 11:50 AM (GMT -7)   
I think you should suggest that!
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


karendee
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   Posted 5/1/2009 5:10 AM (GMT -7)   
I will thanks!

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


karendee
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   Posted 5/14/2009 6:49 AM (GMT -7)   

Well last week my Dr faxed all the paperwork. The HR manager has been putting off talking with me all week.

Now I am sick today and off work.

She sent me several emails that I did not return the paperwork. She had given me a copy of the fax the Dr sent and I was supposed to give it back with a form. So I emailed it to her from home.

I got this response:

Karen

 To explain: once you get the papers from your doctor you need to present them and the request for leave form back to me within the 15 calendar days.

 Once I review your request and the doctor’s paperwork, I will issue the designation notice stating if the leave is approved or not.

 You asked me to give you the fax the other day and remember I said we needed to sit and talk about this.  So we need to finish the process to ensure that the leave you are requesting and what the doctor’s information states is applicable under the FMLA guidelines.

Strange huh? She keeps making it sound like I might not be approved for intermittent leave!

I want to scream!!! When I was the one making these decisions I never questioned the Dr, I am not a nurse and I feel if the Dr says an employee needs to be off then who am I to question that.
 
Thanks for letting me vent!
Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


FitzyK23
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   Posted 5/14/2009 8:29 AM (GMT -7)   
She probably just needs to go through the formalities to make sure everyone is treated equal. Just do what she asks and hopefully it will be fine.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


karendee
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   Posted 5/14/2009 8:30 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks Fitzy!

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


jhicks
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   Posted 5/15/2009 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
I have found people/co-workers to be very understanding of my condition. I think it is more frustrating and raises more questions/eyebrows when you are absent or unable to perform all of your duties when they don't know that you are actually sick. Otherwise, people tend to think you're lazy or just not pulling your weight and burdening them for something that is in your control. Crohn's is not a pretty disease. It can be embarrassing. But you should not be ashamed. This disease is NOT you. It is a fact of who you are. I'm not saying go out and announce it to everyone, but having a supervisor/colleague/friend or two in your corner can make you feel more supported and not so alone. I agree, she is probably just making sure all the ducks are in a row so that everything is carried out uniformly. I hope you are feeling much better very soon.
Best of luck to you!

karendee
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   Posted 5/16/2009 7:39 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks everyone!
I am finally approved. phew....

Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


ExJohnson
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   Posted 5/16/2009 7:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Great news Karen, I'm so happy for you!!!
I am a pre-30yr. old who has been diagnosed with Crohn's for 14 years.  Symptoms change from cramping and weight loss to severe anemia with fatigue and diarrhea. 
I'm DONE (D-O-N-E, DONE!!!) with immuno-suppressants.  Tremble, yee Pharmacuetical companies, for you will not withstand the aggressive onslaught of our healing!
new prescription from natural doc,
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karendee
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   Posted 5/16/2009 7:42 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks!

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Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

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inflamed
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   Posted 5/16/2009 7:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm glad you're approved!
Hoping to stay in remission after the birth of a healthy baby girl. On Pentasa during my pregnancy, went med-free 2 months to nurse (stupid), but back on Pentasa and still nursing.


Heathereno
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   Posted 5/19/2009 8:20 AM (GMT -7)   
I had problems with employers not liking me being on FMLA but I was told by one of the HR managers that they the Dr only has to give limited information, this is to protect your privacy so that your Boss and and HR dept don't know the details of what you have just that you are on intermittent leave due to a chronic illness.  I know you work with the approver but if she gets out of line with it then report her. I didn't report people in the past about my FMLA and how they treated me and going forward I don't take crap lol no pun intended. haha.
 
Hang in there. 
Diagnosed with Crohn's Disease at age 10, now 38. In remission for many years. Only medication I am on for Crohn's is Remicade but  before this they pretty much had me try all of the ones available at the time.  Have had 5 major surgeries. Had Fistulas but those have been healed from being on Remicade.  Been through it all. Finally found relief about 3 years ago when I found a great GI Specialist that put me on Remicade. If you need any info, please send me message. 


karendee
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   Posted 5/19/2009 8:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Heathereno, thanks for the advice! I will keep an eye on it. She is doing Ok now but I feel like she pushes the limit a but.
Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 

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