Is anyone taking more precautions for the Swine Flu?

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Zanne
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   Posted 4/30/2009 9:35 AM (GMT -7)   
So there are 2 confirmed cases of Swine Flu in the town next to mine. My daughter, the worry wort, doesn't want me to leave the house. The local expert on the news said that any one with a compromised immune system should just be safe and stay home, and of course she heard it. The grocery store I go to is on the town line, most of the workers are from the city where the flu is. She wants me to have groceries delivered. Do any other shopping online and basically become a hermit until this is over. I keep telling her that we just need to take basic precautions like washing our hands and using sanitizers. But maybe I'm being foolish. Its not like my husband and daughter wouldn't be leaving the house.

So is anyone else doing anything like wearing a mask or staying home? Just curious...
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


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Nanners
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   Posted 4/30/2009 9:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Nope not me. Personally I think the media has really blow this all out of proportion. The only thing I am doing is washing my hands frequently, and at work every few days I clean my desk with clorox wipes. Hopefully, the dumb bunnies at work who always come in sick, won't this time. But basically nothing special other than washing my hands alot.
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LMills
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   Posted 4/30/2009 10:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Basically just washing hands and not getting too physically close with those who are coughing or showing signs of being sick. But then I do that anyway since I am on humira.
I do think that the media is blowing it out of proportion as with everything else, but I still think taking the necessary common sense precautions would be wise. Not being careful at all isn't going to help contain it and isn't very fair to the people around you. I don't want to get sick regardless of what the illness is simply because people think that it isn't a big deal.
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Zanne
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   Posted 4/30/2009 10:13 AM (GMT -7)   
That's basically how I feel, but my daughter is totally freaking out. She really can't handle it when I get sick and is really worried that I will end up getting an extreme case. But, if she and my husband are both out and about, there is no way I can totally avoid contamination just by staying home. So, I just wanted to see what other people who have the same health risk I do were doing. I have a small bottle of Purell attached to my purse and I use it frequently when I am out. I should be OK. If not, so be it.
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


HabsHockeyFan
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   Posted 4/30/2009 10:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm just washing my hands even more diligently and watching to make sure I cough in my elbow and not my hand (it's hard to relearn what Mom drilled in my head as a kid!) We have a few cases in our county. I tended bar last night with a bunch of people around---I just brought some hand sanitizer to use once in a while. I did see my brand new Great nephew last weekend....I was careful with him.

I too think this is media overhype. I loved our journalist the other day "so what can do to prevent this horrible problem in our area", Doc said "just wash your hands a lot". Took the wind out of the drama
Dx'd '90 (emergency rupture), symptoms ignored long before that, '03 fistulas and bad flagyl reactions, B12 weekly, Pentasa [until I surrender to the bigger meds]
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CatMan
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   Posted 4/30/2009 11:11 AM (GMT -7)   
In addition to hand washing, I have to be more aware of how often I tend to rub my eyes. Especially with tree pollen pretty high. In addition to the eyes, be careful regarding the mouth and nose also. These are good sources of infections gaining entry to our bodies.
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FitzyK23
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   Posted 4/30/2009 11:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I think the biggest thing our government could do right now is mandate that the airlines allow passengers to change tickets if they feel sick (its ok to require a doctors note) without charge. I will admit flying home sick before because I couldn't afford the $200 change fee and the additional $200 the price went up on top of it. If people could change for free they would be more likely to stay where they are.

Also, it would be nice if employers were more lenient w/ sick workers and workers who have children whose school has closed. Several schools in my state closed but the non-sick children were told they could still go to each other's houses or daycare. Kind of defeats the purpose of closing. I understand not all parents can just take a week off of work but its not fair to send kids from a closed school elsewhere.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


Zanne
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   Posted 4/30/2009 1:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm suppose to be flying at the end of May. Obviously I have issues, one of the other people flying with us is pregnant, so I'm not sure if this is still going on at this rate, what we will be doing. We are just flying from Boston to Buffalo and we do have insurance on the trip (not sure if this would be covered), so maybe we will just drive. Or we will all look like a bunch of medical technicians and wear masks!
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 4/30/2009 1:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Nope, still more danger from driving your own car then from the swine flu.
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crohn's pt mom
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   Posted 4/30/2009 1:44 PM (GMT -7)   
my daughter's waiting to start cimzia 5/11 - I am nervous about her getting sick with anything actually.  But specifically my boss is in Mexico on vacation and will be returning to work Monday.  Also my cube mate's sister just got back from a vacation in Mexico and they live together.  
 
Nothing wrong with taking precautions.

tinglebell
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   Posted 4/30/2009 2:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Just wait until this virus hits the nursing homes, not just the travelers and their closet contacts. I do think this is going to be pretty severe and for us immuno suppressed on pred, humira etc. all precautions should be taken. Ever since I had a friend die of chicken pox while on pred (he was 31) I use caution around this type of warning. I was at two stores today just looking for hand wipe packs, and they were sold out, and there were no masks on the shelves. I wasn't buying them but noticed the empty areas. For me right now, I'm just avoiding crowded areas and no hugs, kisses and handshakes. We have a squirt bottle of purex next to the door. Fitzy's reply about the airlines is a good one. Good health to all!!
DIANNE
Humira, pred and entocort 1/08
3 small bowel resections, 1 for perforation, 2 for strictures 
 


goldy3
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   Posted 4/30/2009 2:31 PM (GMT -7)   
I work at a nursing home and dialysis unit...I'm just going to do the usual precautions as I can't quit my job and stay home all day...
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petittarte
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   Posted 4/30/2009 5:35 PM (GMT -7)   
This is just like any other flu so I'm not worried. Every year during the regular flu season people die. This isn't any different, just out of season. If I catch it I catch and if I don't great. I'll still take the bus and subway from my home in Queens to my job in Manhattan every day.
Jodi

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Nanners
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   Posted 4/30/2009 5:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I just heard a doctor (epidimiologist) say that the swine flu is just another strain of flu and we should just take the normal precautions we do during the flu season. Folks the reason it is deadly in Mexico is for no other reason than Mexico's poor healthcare. If you don't have the funds to pay the doctor, you will not be seen. So the poorer Mexican who doesn't have money for the doctor won't go and usually if they end up going, its because their symptoms are so bad its literally an emergency situation by then. They said one lady who died, died because by the time she got to the hospital her face and lips were blue due to difficulty breathing. The ended up having to put her on a respirator, but it was too late, the damage was done and she ultimately passed away.

My husband is Mexican, so each night we watch the Mexican news along with the US news. You hear from some of these poor folks who tell stories how the doctors have refused to treat some of them and in some cases when people were diagnosed they weren't even telling the families what precautions to watch out for so it just passed thru entire families. Sad situation and so unnecessary. Plus I believe the US news has blown this WAY out of proportion. JMHO


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Post Edited (Nanners) : 5/1/2009 11:15:34 AM (GMT-6)


Valerie3
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   Posted 4/30/2009 7:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm not worried yet, but I think that the death rate is probably a lot lower than people think. People die from the flu anyway, and the only people who are going to the doctor are the worst cases. The part that concerns me is that if the virus keeps mutating, it may become impossible to create a vaccine for it if it mutates fast enough, but once the death toll gets high enough, I will begin to worry. At this point, I don't see a point in worrying about it more than I worry about the regular flu.

njmom
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   Posted 5/1/2009 7:26 AM (GMT -7)   

Due to the swine flu breakout, I check the following website from the government, every day. It shows the incidence of breakouts in every state.

(Of course, for every case reported, there are more people more are sick but don't realize they have swine flu (and/or haven't gone to a doc) plus others who are infected, but have not yet come down with symptoms.) Still others seem healthy, but could be carriers.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/


ozonehole
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   Posted 5/1/2009 7:21 PM (GMT -7)   
njmom said...
Due to the swine flu breakout, I check the following website from the government, every day. It shows the incidence of breakouts in every state.

(Of course, for every case reported, there are more people more are sick but don't realize they have swine flu (and/or haven't gone to a doc) plus others who are infected, but have not yet come down with symptoms.) Still others seem healthy, but could be carriers.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/


Thank you for providing that link, njmom.

A major problem with this swine flu issue is that we are still in the very early stages of the "pandemic" (if that's what it is), so we really don't know yet how dangerous it is. According to the CDC website, in the USA there's only been one death out of 141 cases, which is a fatality rate of just 0.7%.

However, that's far too few cases on which to make an assessment. The reports from Mexico are all over the charts, with the number of deaths anywhere from 15 to 120 out of 300 confirmed cases. That's a death rate anywhere from 0.5% to 40%. The lack of reliable data makes it extremely difficult to know how serious we need to take this.

An interesting complication is that swine flu may be more deadly to people with a healthy immune system. Doctors think that the swine flu resembles the 1918 Spanish flu in that it causes the immune system to overreact, creating a "cytokine storm." However, that has not yet been confirmed. This strain of flu is so new that little is known about how it kills its victims. If it turns out that it does trigger a cytokine storm, patients using immuno-suppressive drugs might actually have a greater chance of survival.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm

Anyway, I think that we all need to monitor this closely, looking for information from RELIABLE sources, and not pay too much attention to the sensationalistic "journalism" that passes for "news."

best regards,
Robert
Crohn's since 1988
3 resections

Post Edited (ozonehole) : 5/1/2009 9:06:28 PM (GMT-6)

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