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WorrywartNana
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   Posted 5/4/2009 9:44 AM (GMT -7)   
My g'son's GI actually suggested that we might try this supplement on my g'son....   It was her suggestion....   I was suprised to hear a med specialist suggest a herb!   After reading up on Curcumin, I have ordered some.
 
19 yr old Grandson - Dx UC 12/08;  DX CD 04/09
Dec 19/08 Hospitalized (1st time)
Apr 9/09 Hospitalized (2nd time, still there) CD flare
Hospital meds: Humira injections started Apr 24/09;  hydromorphone for pain; diuretics; prednisone 50mg.
Has been on: Hydrocortisone, Prednisone, oxycodone,
Demerol, Asacol 800 & Morphine (allergy to both), cipro, flaggyl, vincomycin.  Suppliments:  potassium, multi vitamin, boost, low fiber diet.
 
 


tall girl
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   Posted 5/4/2009 10:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow that's awesome. My family doc has suggested some herbal cures for me in the past. Actually, that's how I new he was a good doctor (and the right one for me). His prority is my heathly and welling being and not pushing drug company agendas. Let us know how it works for your gson. Good luck
25/ Female DXed Crohn's 1/09
Many diet restictions
Entecort, Pentasa, Zantac, Fish Oil
Still confused and sometimes angry/frustrated
However I am learning to laugh at all this more often


snohare
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   Posted 5/4/2009 1:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Nana, I noticed a paper recently on an obscure Crohn's forum specialising in microbiology (eyes very quiet forum ) that stated the essential oil in cinnamon had anti-inflammatory effects. Cinnabinol I think was what it was called; this was purely a research paper so no therapy or dosage was suggested, I don't think they were even testing it on MAP, but you might find that you can get a supplement with that in it too. I have the feeling that Dr Mercola, bless his hard-selling cotton socks, might do something along these lines.
I'm pretty sure that Methotrexate is related to curcumin - I certainly remember reading in New Scientist magazine a year or two back of how it was one molecular twist away from a common herb, which a research trial had just shown outperformed it ! eyes I'll bet it was fitted in at all the <insert company name here> sponsored conferences...and that's why everyone knows of it. yeah

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   Posted 5/4/2009 10:31 PM (GMT -7)   
There was a good post (but no replies) about curcurmin almost a year ago:

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=24&m=1161254

I actually use the spice turmeric on my rice and some other dishes. Turmeric is the main source of curcurmin. According to the wikipedia page, you should add a little black pepper to the turmeric as this increases the amount of curcurmin absorbed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turmeric

I'll gladly use turmeric, but I'm sticking with lingzhi as my main treatment because it's working wonders.

cheers,
Robert
Crohn's since 1988
3 resections


PSA
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   Posted 5/5/2009 1:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Fresh grown ground turmeric is very good for crohns, UC, IBD and all other related problems. I have posted lots of details on the same in some of my posts. Infact, lots of members on this forum have tried this and have found the same to be very beneficial. You may find my posts of UC forum. I have also provided the names of stores in the US where one can find turmeric. How to grow turmeric. How to use it and other issues about the same.
45 years Male Attorney
Diagnosed UC October 1989
 
Had two stage J Pouch Surgery Nov 2005; Take Down March 2006
Complications after surgery - Incisional Hernia and Ano Fistulas
 
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle: Albert Einstein
 
"What you are aware of you are in control of; what you are not aware of is in control of you."
 


snohare
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   Posted 5/5/2009 2:58 AM (GMT -7)   
yeah Thanks for that info, Ozone, I didn't know about the pepper. It's aye the wee details that make the difference ! I will say I have been thinking about the herbal route for some time, the drug therapies are a disaster in the long term really, so the problem with herbs for me is just likely to be the cost and availability.
PSA, I will be sure to look up how to grow turmeric, I think that is my next growing challenge in a garden full of rabbits ! Love the signature quotes by the way. smilewinkgrin

PSA
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   Posted 5/5/2009 3:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Snohare

Thanks for the compliments. I appreciate it.

In case you are looking for treatment for low Hb - I would suggest you take paste of fresh mint leaves. You can also take red carrot and beat root juice. Pomegranate Juice.

For acidity, ulcers, gastro issues, inflamation, etc. you may try fresh green pumpkin juice. Quite effective.

Turmeric, in any case is the mother of all antiseptics.

Eat Banana for acidity, carbohydrates, protein.

I use these that is why I am recommending. Once you have grown Turmeric, please do inform me, I would like to visit you and take a handful of the same from your farm house.
45 years Male Attorney
Diagnosed UC October 1989
 
Had two stage J Pouch Surgery Nov 2005; Take Down March 2006
Complications after surgery - Incisional Hernia and Ano Fistulas
 
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle: Albert Einstein
 
"What you are aware of you are in control of; what you are not aware of is in control of you."
 


snohare
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   Posted 5/5/2009 4:02 AM (GMT -7)   
turn You'd have a ways to go Delhi, I'm in the Scottish Highlands just down the road from Balmoral Castle ! But I think the dreaded bunnies might be a spanner in the works for a while - they tend to eat anything that rears its little green head up out of the ground. shocked yeah
I have a question. What is the "low Hb" that you refer to ?

PSA
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   Posted 5/5/2009 5:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Well thanks for the update on dreaded bunnies. Turmeric can be grown in pots. You can hang them (not the bunnies, the pots). I grow turmeric in pots.

Hb is Hemoglobin blood count. As you may be aware for a healthy male the Hb count is between 13 to 17 and for female it is between 11 - 13.

In case of bleeding, the Hb count goes down, and one has to have blood infusion or else have iron supplements, natural supplements.

Scottish Highlands and the Balmoral Castle seem to be so tempting like Austria's Vienna. Well once you have grown turmeric, then we will finalize the visit.
45 years Male Attorney
Diagnosed UC October 1989
 
Had two stage J Pouch Surgery Nov 2005; Take Down March 2006
Complications after surgery - Incisional Hernia and Ano Fistulas
 
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle: Albert Einstein
 
"What you are aware of you are in control of; what you are not aware of is in control of you."
 


Becoming undone
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   Posted 5/5/2009 9:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Snohare...not sure if you could grow this outside...you might be a bit on the cold side...yup, I have a thing too for the garden...
davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/60081/
www.urbanharvest.org/advice/othergardening/ginger_galangal.htmhttp://www.urbanharvest.org/advice/othergardening/ginger_galangal.htm
I like pairing Tumeric with chicken...actually so does most of the canning industry...it is found in most canned chicken soups (gives it that distinct "yellow" colour)...it does feel ever so good on the tummy... tongue
Just as an FYI...most people could find these (tumeric/curcumin) at a spice store (in US: Costplus worldmarket/Wholefoods or in those plastic packet in the grocery store in the "ethinc" isles...) for less than the price of the "supplement". If you want you can buy the gelatin caupsules...usually at your local health food co-op...and make your own "supplements" for 1/2 or less the cost...and the plus is you get to know what exactly is in there. (used to work for a nutracutical mfg plant...you add fillers so that you can mass produce capsules more efficiently.)
"The earth laughs in flowers"


snohare
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   Posted 5/5/2009 1:19 PM (GMT -7)   
idea Do you know Becoming, I was pretty much joking when I said it would be my next challenge, but I do believe I could grow it here ! The temperature here in a bad winter nowadays rarely falls below - 10O C, I think the problem would probably be our lousy summers - lots of rain and not much in the way of very hot days. (I know there are a lot of people who would give their eye teeth for that, but they are not growing plants covered with fungal diseases. shakehead)
I already have some ginger rhizomes, but didn't know how to go about getting them to grow - the one I tried last year rotted in the ground, it was a dreadfully wet summer. With the info on those pages you linked to, I think I now have a better chance.
Delhi, you are a mine of useful information. Not least because I had not thought of pots as a way of saving my plants from the rabbits - until I get the fence repaired they will eat just about everything. I am still in the process of moving in, so I am trying to start things growing without actually being there to tend them much of the time. With rabbits and slugs around, that is usually fatal. Still, I can always think of it as a way of fattening up my evening meal.... (shocked No, I don't mean the slugs smilewinkgrin)
That Hb problem is one that I am likely to have, I think. Whenever I have a flare for a certain length of time, I start finding I am breathless when going upstairs, as well as the usual fatigue that comes with illness. (Fatigue is my biggest symptom with CD.) I have always thought that this is probably anaemia, caused by the inflammatory reaction attacking blood cells. I usually just add a little molasses and as much dark green leafy food to my diet as possible, but now I maybe understand why I get a craving for carrots when I am tired like that...

WorrywartNana
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   Posted 5/5/2009 11:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all the links re Curcumin & Tumeric. I'll have a look at them tomorrow.

Ozone: I also ordered Reishi M. Extract from Mitobi Mushroom company. I'll try them 1st before giving them to my g'son - he still has some colon bleeding.

Snobird: I recently finished my family tree which went back to Aberdeen, Banff & Moray! I have a beautiful painting of the Grampion Hills by D. Sherrin. Thanks for the info on Cinnamon.

G'son is home from the hospital tonight! All is well.
 
19 yr old Grandson - Dx UC 12/08;  DX CD 04/09
Apr 9/09 CD Flare:   Hospital meds: Humira injections started Apr 24/09;  Imuran 50mg; hydromorphone for pain; diuretics; prednisone 50mg & tapering 10mg/dy.   Past Meds:   Hydrocortisone,   prednisone,   oxycodone,  Tylenol,  Demerol,  Duiretics,   Asacol 800 & Morphine (allergy to both), cipro,  flaggyl, vincomycin;   Suppliments:  potassium,  multi vitamin, boost, low fiber diet.
 
Has had problems since day diagnosed


PSA
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   Posted 5/6/2009 1:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Nana

Hope your grandson is feeling much better now.

Snohare, if you are having fatigue and feeling lethargic, it may be a sign of your being anaemic (low Hb). You may please consider fresh carrot and beat root juice. Its' a different thing that even rabbits are too fond of carrots, that is how they can do so much running around. Ha ha ha.
Jokes apart carrot juice would really help you in getting rid of anaemia. You can eat banana too. That also helps in anaemia. So far as protecting your garden is concerned, you may have to protect the ground too with hen mesh, as the rabbits tend to dig burrows under the earth.

Hi Ozone: I have heard about Reishi Mushroom powder/extract. It is supposed to be good for immune system. I had tried it once or twice. Infact, one of my clients is manufacturing and marketing Reishi Mushroom Powder in Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, USA and Phillipines.
45 years Male Attorney
Diagnosed UC October 1989
 
Had two stage J Pouch Surgery Nov 2005; Take Down March 2006
Complications after surgery - Incisional Hernia and Ano Fistulas
 
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle: Albert Einstein
 
"What you are aware of you are in control of; what you are not aware of is in control of you."
 

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