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Homeboy
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   Posted 5/4/2009 11:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey guys;

I just started taking probiotics.

What numbers as far as 500million, or 1 billion, should I be looking for?

Also is one brand better than the other?

Thanks

smilewinkgrin
CD dx @ 13 (1987)
Prednisone 10mg every other day
Phenergen PRN
Celexa 20mg day
Zantac 300 - Twice Day
Pain Meds
Vitamins


MikeB
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   Posted 5/4/2009 11:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Supposedly the higher the number the better. My GI swears by VSL-3, which is apparently the gold standard, but I think any probiotic taken consistently will have similar results. I am not yet convinced of the value . . . at best probiotics are likely an adjunct to regular drug therapy.

snohare
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   Posted 5/4/2009 1:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I was told by my nutritional therapist that one billion is what I get from my yoghurt, that is a maintenance dose. Twenty or better still thirty billion is therapeutic. That is what I have recently gone onto, in pill form, and I would say it has improved things for me. That is Udo's Super 8, but I am in the UK, I don't know if you can get it where you are. I would expect so.
idea Probiotics aren't a cure by any means, but they provide very good symptomatic relief if you are lucky. Some varieties may even make you worse, it is literally a case of trial and error.
I find that any time I go without my yoghurt the diarrhoea comes back with attendant problems; the probiotics damp down the inflammation like turning down a stove ring under a boiling pot. Something is still simmering away, but there is a bit more leeway for relaxation ! yeah
If MAP is the cause of Crohn's - I personally am convinced it is - the bad news there is that some of the standard treatments like azathioprine may cause it to become more aggressive in its effects. Given the boom and bust success of the current treatments, I think this would explain a lot about the cyclical nature of flares as experienced by many here.
eyesI would be inclined to say that current standard drug treatments at best can be an adjunct to probiotics ! nonoAnd the moral of this conundrum is, every Crohnie is different, and the disease can behave in very different ways according to each individual's nature.

Zanne
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   Posted 5/4/2009 2:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I never thought that probiotics worked. I had tried several and they all either made things worse or had no effect until I tried Align that my doctor recommended. I agree with Snohare that you need to find one that works for you. I have actually added some probiotic yogurt into the mix since I had to have a bunch of antibiotics this winter and things got a bit messed up. Hoping that by adding a bunch more good bacteria I can even the playing field. Who knows it might work.
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


ivy6
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   Posted 5/4/2009 4:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Check out the probiotics threads in the new meds thread.
Co-Moderator Crohn's Forum.


LMills
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   Posted 5/4/2009 4:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Align works really well for me too. You'll probably just have to keep trying different kinds until you notice a positive difference.
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone 10 mg, pentasa 2 pills 4x a day, bentyl as needed, omeprazole in the morning, prenatal multivitamin, humira every other week, and Align probiotics given to me by my GI.
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
Diet almost completely without refined sugars, wheat, flour, gluten, high lactose dairy, and/or junk food in general.
Learning how to live again.
"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


pb4
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   Posted 5/4/2009 6:37 PM (GMT -7)   
The first probiotic I used contained 1 billion, the one I use now contains 5 billion and I noticed the difference between the 2 for sure, the current one I'm taking is much better, but it also has guaranteed intestinal release which is important too...in case you're wondering the one I use is called Primadophilus Reuteri made by natures way, it also aids with high choletsterol and lactose intolerance (which I can vouch for) as well as for women, vaginal health (which I can also vouch for).

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)


ImInIN
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Total Posts : 20
   Posted 5/6/2009 7:29 PM (GMT -7)   
I use Flora-Q2 which has 16 billion. Very, expensive though at $50 per 30 capsules. It works though!

Homeboy
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   Posted 5/7/2009 11:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow, thanks guys. I had no idea there were so many different ones.

:)
CD dx @ 13 (1987)
Prednisone 10mg every other day
Phenergen PRN
Celexa 20mg day
Zantac 300 - Twice Day
Pain Meds
Vitamins


HM
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Date Joined Sep 2008
Total Posts : 211
   Posted 5/7/2009 4:11 PM (GMT -7)   
ImInIN said...
I use Flora-Q2 which has 16 billion. Very, expensive though at $50 per 30 capsules. It works though!
I use this brand as well....it works best for me.

35/f   proud single mom of 2

Diagnosed with GERD/Acid Reflex 2002

Diagnosed with IBS 2007

Diagnosed with UC, then Crohn’s 2008

Current medications: Endcort 3mg 2X daily, Pentasa 2 500mg caps 2X daily, Prilosec 20 mg 2X daily (if needed), Probiotics, Calcuim/Mag/Vit.D. Flinstones multi with Iron and Vit. C 500mg daily

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