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Sniper
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Sooooo, I haven't been around for a while. You may have noticed,,,hmmmmm,,maybe not. Truth is I have been dealing, or in some ways not dealing with our A Hole bureaucrats. Yep, they decided to review my SSDI case to see if I can work now. Hello, duhhhhh, last time I checked there was no cure for crohns. So I have been filling out forms and answering dumb *** questions like, on an average day, what do you do. Answer,,,I have no average days, I have somewhat good days and I have bad days. Wish I could answer , No speaka da stupido. Anyway its been stressful, and my doc told me yesterday, I know your going to worry, but dont worry. Yeah, right. I just want to live what is left of my life in peace. Not sure I know what peace is, but I would love to find some. Guess I am lucky in a way, as I have not given up on complaining to my doctors. The case files they will send in on me will paint a picture I could not, had I given up and I have come close at times. Right now I am in pretty bad shape mentally as well  as physically and had I been doing better, I would be punished by losing my SSDI. Dont that reek of stupid ?? Sooo, the paper work is almost done and then it will be up to some pencil pushing, bean counter that has never seen me to decide if I need to go back to work. Hmmmm, guess they will take in to consideration the state of the economy, after all with all the companies laying people off, and old sick geezer like me would be a shoe in for a new and better job....Righttttt . I do have one big plus. As my name implies, I should not be able to miss at a range of 1 inch..Ohhhhhh Stop, its just a figure of speech. 
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


Bluize
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:23 AM (GMT -7)   

Sniper, how freakin annoying!

 

I know the gov't needs their money too on the backs of the sick and the poor.

 

My bro is disabled with a brain injury and they send letters and questionaires to him that he cannot fill out.

 

Sorry you are dealing with this.  I hope it's over soon.


Susan
 
28 years with Crohns in the term ileum.  Feb 07 Resection.  No meds currently..but there will be some I'm sure. Taking acidophilus.


Nanners
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:25 AM (GMT -7)   
So sorry you have to deal with the govt crap again. I have seriously thought about signing up for this, but so worried that all the hoops you have to jump thru would just cause ME more problems, so have quietyly just let it go. Hope all goes well and they don't try to make you go back to work. We understand, if no one else does, that you really are sick with this DD.

Hugs
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Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

karendee
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh Sniper, I am so sorry. I know first hand how stress can make CD worse. I hope all goes well for you. I hope your Doctors are able to give info that convinces them you should stay on SSDI
Good luck!!
Karen

 ...

Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 on Soma and Lyrica

 

 


LMills
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:32 AM (GMT -7)   
This is just infuriating....I don't understand why autoimmune diseases can stop counting and yet others are always legitimate OR why being obese is somehow legally worse than defecating your own blood several times an hour on and off for the rest of your life. We don't even get a choice in what we eat [many expletives].
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
Currently taking:
Prednisone 10 mg, pentasa 2 pills 4x a day, bentyl as needed, omeprazole in the morning, prenatal multivitamin, humira every other week, and Align probiotics given to me by my GI.
Surgery for ectopic pregnancy most likely the result of severe Crohn's inflammation in July of 2008.
Diet almost completely without refined sugars, wheat, flour, gluten, high lactose dairy, and/or junk food in general.
Learning how to live again.
"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


lamb61
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:39 AM (GMT -7)   
What jerks! I'm sure they have nothing better to do than make your life miserable.

Hey on a brighter note --- those hummingbirds made it to PA. They've been at my feeder all week. First one showed up before the feeder was even up, must've been a retunee from last year.
 


HabsHockeyFan
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   Posted 5/6/2009 10:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Sniper...you were missed! I wish I could take some time to help you...I've been practicing my shot on Wii :-)

I am glad you have some supportive medical personnel. Try to let them take some of the battle for you. get out and enjoy some of your wildlife. It stinks when you have to work at destressing, but I worry about you lately. Take care.
Dx'd '90 (emergency rupture), symptoms ignored long before that, '03 fistulas and bad flagyl reactions, B12 weekly, Pentasa [until I surrender to the bigger meds]
I'm riding on the escalator of life....


Sniper
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   Posted 5/6/2009 10:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks guys, I'm really down in the dumps today and need some kind thoughts. My wife wont let me answer the questions the way I want to. I wanted to write across the page in big letters, " When you @#%^$ s get off of some research money and there is a cure for Crohns,,,THEN and ONLY THEN, feel free to contact me, until that time you all can go stright to #e!!, dont pass go, dont collect $200 "...PS, feel free to go through the same crapp we crohnies do at any time, I will send you one sheet of toilet paper so you can wipe the crapp from your eyes, maybe then you will understand. I wonder how many of their employees have crohns or IBD. Bet the answer is a big fat 0..
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


FitzyK23
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   Posted 5/6/2009 12:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Sniper,

I am only writing this in the hopes of making you feel better but I'm afraid it might make you feel worse. But I'll take my chances. My husband works for a private disability company so I understand some of this stuff. While there is no cure for crohns there are treatments and remissions. When I was at my worst I was barely working. Now I am doing great. No one could predict when I started my treatment what my outcome was going to be. Disability payments for people with diseases that are episodic are reviewed so that if they go into a long term remission they are encouraged to re-enter the work force. Often this will be done in increments so that you go back part time and at a reduced benefit, etc. It sucks that you are not at all better after all these years so the paperwork must seem really frustrating. But, they have no way of knowing that. Lots of people with crohns do get better. I am one of them. I don't think it is fair to say that they don't have any employees with crohns. They probably do! My husband used to tell all his IBD claimants that his wife has crohns so he has some idea of what they are talking about. Also, when they review claims they have to ensure that your disability couldn't be accommodated. For many people with mild crohns it can be. Also their goal isn't to find a loophole and make you lose your benefit. It is just a review to make sure you are the same as you were before. If you were better you wouldn't be punished by losing your benefit. You wouldn't need your benefit anymore. There is a huge difference. Also the guidlines take into account that with episodic diseases remission can be short lived. That is why your remission usually has to be several years long before you lose your benefit. Also if you return to the workforce and then your disease returns in full force it is easier to re-open your claim than it is to start from scratch. Sorry you have to jump through hoops but it is necessary to ensure that all those recieving the benefit need it. That way the money is spent the best way possible.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


Sniper
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   Posted 5/6/2009 5:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Fritzy, I'll bet you use to take your little brothers ice cream too. Just kidding, I understand the process but I am an old geezer. I was forced to retire because of this DD. Just dont need the hassle right now. I am not able to go back to any stressful job. Just going to go through the motions now. All I want right now is to control my PTSD not go off the deep end and enjoy my last few whatevers of life.
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


ivy6
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   Posted 5/6/2009 6:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Those forms can be so frustrating. Bureaucrats need to realise that some of us *never* go into true remission.

Sniper, you keep talking about "the last few whatevers" of your life. You don't sound as if you expect to live much longer ... are you at the end of your rope?

Ivy.
Co-Moderator Crohn's Forum.

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FitzyK23
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   Posted 5/6/2009 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Sniper, I had the same question as Ivy. I hope you have a lot of whatevers left!! And we miss you here; come back more often. Also, is your PTSD part of the reason you are on disability? If so, that NEVER goes away so maybe the more you focus on that the less you will have to justify the crohns. Very annoying indeed. I wasn't trying to argue with you or anything. When I HATE red tape sometimes understanding why it is there makes me feel better; like I am not just being forced to jump through hoops for no reason what so ever. I hope it helped rather than frustrate.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


Rider Fan
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   Posted 5/6/2009 7:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Try to not let it get to you Sniper...
32 y/o male. Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: Humira 2/27/09. 12.5mg prednisone. Udo's Choice Probiotics (30 billion). Can't tolerate any iron supplements or infusions.

Tried SCD, didn't work, now avoiding gluten and dairy.


Go Saskatchewan Roughriders!


Sniper
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   Posted 5/6/2009 10:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Guys , I reached the end of my rope long ago and tied a knot in it to cling to. My peace of mind is somewhat fragile at times and I dont deal well with authority . I have found a strange way of coping with what I have seen in my life time.Yes PTSD is a part of my disability. I have managed it for many years but really lost control of it a few years back. I can thank a very loving wife and an understanding therapist for saving what was left of my shattered life. I have been ready for the end since my teens and I do not fear it, I just hate to lose a fight. Guess thats why I am still around. I did have a long talk with my therapist and she tells me just what my doctor tells me. Let them handle it. I am trying. It all makes sense, but then,, there is the night. I dont sleep well because when I close my eyes I dont control where my mind goes. Yesterday becomes now and yesterday was not pretty. I have tried for many years to watch the sun rise and sun set each day. Sunset means I have made it through another day and sunrise means I have endured yet another night. Odd sounding isn't it. I wrote a poem about it when I was about 20. Daydream, fairy princess, dancing light, tiptoe across my mind and ease my pain,,for soon the daylight fades into the night, and I must battle not to sleep again. I also wrote my epitaph long ago but I'm not ready to use it. Excuse me for a while. I will have to live for the moment until all this makes sense. By the way. Thanks for caring. I'll be OK.
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


ivy6
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   Posted 5/6/2009 11:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh, Sniper. I wish I could wave a magic wand to make things better for you.

As far as the forum goes, of course you must take some time out if you need to, but I do hope you'll be able to keep posting here occasionally, as we care about you and worry when you are not here.

It takes tremendous courage to keep facing each day when you are at the end of your rope. You deserve a lot of respect & congratulations for simply keeping on keeping on.

Hang in there,

Ivy.
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yellowfin43
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Date Joined Aug 2008
Total Posts : 305
   Posted 5/7/2009 5:35 AM (GMT -7)   
It amazes me how insignificant government agencies can make one feel. I too am on SSDI and have been for over 2 years but I haven't been contacted yet for any kind of renewal process. I do think about it often though. According to my doctor, thats something I dont need to worry about because he said he wont let that happen. That is a bit of a relief but I also know how the bureaucacy works. Anytime there is a chance for crooks to get money from anything they infiltrate like bad bacteria and make it nearly impossible for those who really need it to get it. Welcome to America! Land of the free and Home of the greedy. It's a shame but I have become very cynical. Granted I am getting the help I need but I had to fight hard for it when I least had the energy to do so because as I see it, some parasitic Americans or some foreigners have set off alarms by trying to abuse the system. I'm right there with you Sniper. It's ok to be pissed. More people should be too then maybe we could make a difference. I'll probably get most of this erased by a moderator but thats ok too. I feel better.
Crohns 30 years. Ileostomy for 15 years. Symptom free for 14 years until 8 months ago. Now on Remicade, B-12 injections and iron. Feeling much better!
God Bless. Tony

Post Edited (yellowfin43) : 5/7/2009 6:38:40 AM (GMT-6)


stkitt
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   Posted 5/7/2009 6:47 AM (GMT -7)   

Dearest Sniper,

I just read your post and you brought tears to my eyes but today is a tough day for me as my sister's visitation and funeral are today and tomorrow. So I cry. 

As for you, I am so sorry the PTSD is kicking your butt however you are staying in the moment and that is my favorite advice to anyone struggling with depression. 

I too quit my dream job and took early retirement due to a huge meltdown in 2006 but no one mentioned that I should take my disability from work instead of just resigning and dipping into my retirement fund.  Looking back I feel very betrayed and angry with my former employer as I put in 26 years of perfect evaluations and attendance yet when My supervisor was aware I was in trouble she never mentioned helping me. I hid my depression for so many years and lived through the death of a son plus many other losses that when it all caught up with me I went down hard.

Like you I have a spouse and a good physician who helped me through.  I also have my children and I want to see my grandchildren grow up and I want to feel the sun on my face.

I will trade off the pain, and the sorrow that I go through and keep fighting for the good times.  I hope that you will too as there is good in life.

Yes the bad memories come out whenever they choose but I fight them back and I come here and post to others and ask the members of HealingWell for help.  They never turn me down. They will never turn you down either.

Our personal power is accessed in the present. Practice staying present today. Take deep breaths often. Really feel what you are doing

Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not yet come. We have only today. Let us begin.

May you have peace within,

Your friend,

Kitt


 

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atctackett
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   Posted 5/7/2009 7:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Sniper,
I am so sorry that you are haing to deal with PTSd and the bureaurocratic (sp?) junk. I know that we all have to deal with this DD in our own ways, and at times it gets the best of us. Know that we are always hear to lend an "ear" to vent to. It has helped me immensely to be able to discuss situations on here with people who understand what I am going through. I have a wonderful wife who tries very hard to understand the situations and feelings that I find myself in, but she has never had to endure my situation. I hope that you will continue to post here often and allow us to be a part of your support system.
Shawn
 
Diagnosed with Crohn's in July 2005. 2 Bowel Resections in 2008.
Currently taking Pentasa 1000 mg 4X/Day, 6MP 100 mg/day, multivitamin, Lopressor 100 mg/day (Blood Pressure), Remicade IV every 6 weeks, Omeprazole CR 40 mg/day, Percocet for pain, Lomotil, & Phenigren PRN


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 5/7/2009 7:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Sniper, what years where you in Nam? With your MOS PTSD is pretty automatic now. I am assuming you were sprayed as well? Did you ever file for agent orange and PTSD? I know you are way not happy with the VA. But I would like to help you collect some of your rightful veteran's benefits, especially given that it is usually more then SSDI.

In the meantime hang in there buddy and know you are not alone in this stuggle. Tell us what we can do to help. You know we are here for you.
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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 5/7/2009 10:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Sniper (and all other veterans who read and post here),

I just want to THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for your service to our country. I come from a very large family and two of my brothers also served in the late 1960's and early 70's . . . Both had injuries plus the PTSD. I only speak of them to say that I honestly feel for what you are dealing with.

Anyway . . . the point of this post is to try and say thanks. Thanks that you and so many other men and women step up every day and take care of things that none of us usually even think about. Thanks that because our military has done such an awesome job that my kids and grandkids go through each day with little thought or worry of danger/harm. Thank you . . . because of you and our military, my kids and grands are clueless as to how things could be if we weren't so well protected by so many dedicated troops.

My words fall way short, but I'm hopping that you feel appreciated for your service. I'm sorry that the disability red-tape has found you . . . my brothers deal/dealt with lots of that stuff too. . . I'm actually glad that someone is minding the store . . . but I'm sorry you are having to jump through hoops - again.

Sending hugs, prayers for short nights and peaceful sleep, and . . .

Blessings!

In His Grip

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atctackett
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   Posted 5/7/2009 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
I wanted to include my thanks to you and all of those who have/are serving our country. You have allowed us to enjoy the freedoms and rights that we take for granted, and some take the chanc to abuse those rights or those who have given them to us. Your service to our country has allowed us to continue to be the "Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave." I thank you!
Shawn
 
Diagnosed with Crohn's in July 2005. 2 Bowel Resections in 2008.
Currently taking Pentasa 1000 mg 4X/Day, 6MP 100 mg/day, multivitamin, Lopressor 100 mg/day (Blood Pressure), Remicade IV every 6 weeks, Omeprazole CR 40 mg/day, Percocet for pain, Lomotil, & Phenigren PRN


orngie
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   Posted 5/7/2009 11:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Hang in there. It sounds like your doctors feel confident that you are still eligible and will help you out.

Sniper
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   Posted 5/7/2009 11:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks you for even trying MMMNAVY but I gave up on the VA years ago. I have gone through three shrinks with my own money, just to get to this point. The one I have now is the best and I would not want to give her up. She has seen me through some very rough times for the last 8 years and I can call her any time. VV tells me the VA is better, maybe so, but I cant start over .I still have some pride. SSDI , I paid for that and wont let it go without a fight. I pulled three hitches from 1969 to 1972. Yes we were sprayed but most of the men I knew, well ,never had to worry about it. I know many died still trying to get the VA to even admit what they knew for years. It's always about the money, isn't it ?
AlwaysRosie, you owe me no thanks. I came home. The ones that did not, those deserve much more. I try to live the life that they could not ,every day. I am still not worthy. Thank you for thinking of them.
If we would read the secret history of our enemies,we would find in each mans life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.


vietvet
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   Posted 5/7/2009 8:46 PM (GMT -7)   
ok, ya dragged me into this thread. man, i told ya.....ya got nuthin' to worry about. like fitzy said, they have to do this occasionally (prolly at random) on the chance that someone might be in a position to go back to work. to be honest, i'm a little surprised they'd pick an old geezer like you. turn they gotta know that no one would hire you, especially with your health history........you forgot to add in the ol ticker! quit worryin'! i'm not going to worry about it, but then i have a few years on ya. i'm hoping they have a senior citizen cutoff age that they just shake their head and pass you by instead of terrorizing gramma and grampa at a time that it's easy to do.

navy, i would sure accept some advice on the agent orange thing. i was in III corps (the most heavily sprayed part of vietnam). there was no foliage where i was.........just dust.......and mud when it rained. we ate it, drank it, breathed it, and absorbed it. to me, it is pretty clear - dioxin is known to mess with the autoimmune system.......ulcerative colitis is an autoimmune disease. the VA's take on that - crohns and UC aren't on the list. how diseases have been added to the list, is a joke........a purposely long, drawn out study designed to trim the claimant pool through attrition (death). i developed a nervous tic in my speech after returning, that was never there in my youth. my oldest daughter was born with scoliosis, which is a milder form of spina bifida. spina bifida is on the list.......scoliosis isn't.

the VA is my sole source of health care, and i am reticent to make waves down there (pardon the navy pun). so far, they have been good to me, and i really like the PA that i have. i just think that they should have sent out questionnaires to gather info about what illnesses A/O exposed vets are struggling with, and then look at that data for patterns. but they don't do it like that. they pick a disease at random and study the heck out of it for 10 years trying to rule it out. in the meantime vets are dying. then they pick another and study the heck out of it for another 10 years etc., etc.

it seems like i read somewhere (probably online) that Australia has recognized IBD as a result of agent orange. anybody down under know about that? ivy, sydneyjo, andorable, phoebe? there were a lot of aussies there with us that were killed in vietnam, yet came home to die a slow death. i know guys that died of cancer, but, it wasn't a recognized form of cancer.....it wasn't on the list. while they were still alive, you'd swear they had parkinsons or something like that was going to take them, they shook so bad. i just got a nervous tic in my speech sometimes...........guess what? my kid was born slightly deformed......guess what? well,...........looks like we don't have a muffler fer YOUR car!

woops! somebody got me going. anyway, navy, if you have any insight that might help me, i'd appreciate it.

vv

Post Edited (vietvet) : 5/7/2009 9:57:14 PM (GMT-6)


ivy6
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   Posted 5/7/2009 10:14 PM (GMT -7)   
No, vv, I haven't heard anything about that and would be interested to read any info on the topic that you do find.

I am so distressed to think that you have suffered such long-term damage as a result of your service. I think what distresses me the most is the knowledge that your govt hasn't really learnt from your experiences, as I've heard you're still using weapons in the Middle East that are going to inflict pain and suffering on the locals and military for generations to come... Suffering is always dreadful, and I think is worst when it is in vain.

Ivy.
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