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littlemissmuffet
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   Posted 6/1/2009 11:51 AM (GMT -7)   
I always seem to need the loo so much more in the morning and this tapers off as the day goes on.  The pain tapers off too.
I have always thought that this us normal for us crohnies.
 
However I have just started Cognative behavioural therapy, and the first suggestion has been that I am more stressed first thing in the morning and this is why I use the loo more. I dont feel that this is the case.
 
Is anyone else much worse in the morning?
 
Thanks
 
Kerry
Diagnosed 2005.
 
Current medication  -  infliximab infusions, ranitidine, ferrous sulphate, Vitamin B12 injections, asacol


Nanners
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   Posted 6/1/2009 11:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I think the majority (not all) have more problems in the morning. I am in remission, but my bathroom times are always in the morning and I still feel a little yucky until I get passed my early morning visits. Hope that helps.
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gumby44
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   Posted 6/1/2009 12:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Little Miss Muffet,
I just responded to your other post too. I am a mental health therapist and a Crohn's sufferer, and your therapist is aggravating me!! There are a ton of us Crohnnies who are worse in the morning...I don't believe it has anything to do with stress, and more to do with biological rhythms. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, and I greatly believe in the value of CBT, but please ask your therapist if s/he has read anything about Crohn's disease, and if not, then please direct him/her to the ccfa.org website. Having Crohn's disease is very stressful, and stress management skills are extremely helpful, but for heaven's sake, it's not your fault if you have to poop a lot in the morning!!
50 yr. old female, diagnosed with Crohn's in small intestine and terminal ileum Sept-Oct. 2007. Also have IBS, and had Salmonella Dec. '07
currently taking Pentasa- 4 500mg pills per day, Metamucil and colace for constipation


karendee
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   Posted 6/1/2009 12:10 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Nanners there are a lot of us that have tougher mornings. I am one of them.
 
I get nausea and very tired almost every  morning even when I am not flaring. I think it has something to do with digestion at night but I am not sure.
I do understand how tough mornings can be. Hang in there!!
Karen
 

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Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 Started Humira June 2008 (have been on other cd meds)

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isergodur
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   Posted 6/1/2009 12:26 PM (GMT -7)   
My life has no stress, none. I don't work and I don't have to do anything I don't want to do :P
I am always so much worse in the morning. Cant eat breakfast with out going 3 times to the toilet.
But I get better during the day, then I get worse in the evening.

I have always been like this since I got sick. And when I was at my worst I was going none stop from 7 pm until noon, all night and the morning.
24 year old female
Diagnosed with Crohn's disease in December 2008..
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WriterMum
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   Posted 6/1/2009 12:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Mornings are my major bathroom time also. I was somewhat attributing it to the fibre that I take in the afternoon. It takes 12 to 18 hours supposedly to work, so I thought that it was kicking in at that time. However, even without the fibre, mornings are the active time for my insides, but I also thought it was cycles to do with sleep etc.

littlemissmuffet
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   Posted 6/1/2009 2:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all the quick replies. I agree with gumby 44 that i did wonder if my therapist knew much about crohns. Yes some days I am stressed for various reasons but some days Im not stressed at all and I still seem to poop non stop every morning.
Diagnosed 2005.
 
Current medication  -  infliximab infusions, ranitidine, ferrous sulphate, Vitamin B12 injections, asacol


ivy6
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   Posted 6/1/2009 3:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I read, a long time ago, that the body releases a lot of chemicals during the night to help with the digestion process, leading to the urge to defecate in the morning. My feeling is that *this* is why most of us have a tougher time in the morning. Stress has little to do with it, imho.
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LMills
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   Posted 6/1/2009 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
My system is always more active in the morning. I have to go through several BM's and then 30 minutes-hour later I can start my day.
I don't really think it has to do with stress either. I have been that way with and without added stress.
20 years old, Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's and Colitis in May of 2008.
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onthecan
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   Posted 6/1/2009 8:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Kerry I to have hard times in the mornings there my worst time of the day and I'm useless till at least late afternoon,however I do run to the bathroom more in the mornings the other problem I have is this my legs from the athritis I guess I have so much pain and swelling in them I can bearly walk there also week which scares me some times cause I have a fear of fallen,I have to feed everyone then get the cat taken care of,do the dishes,make beds,start the wash,sweep the floors,start planning dinner for tonight,clean the bathroom by cleaning I mean each week it gets a good cleaning daily I use Mr.Clean all purpose spray cleaner to do the counters the taps,toilet and wash the never ending towels,than its my time for my tea and muffin but this list I can't start till my body allows me to by than I have to put a rush on cause everyone will be arriving for dinner and the rest of the house isn't done>so I run around like a crazy person when I get that burst of energy and get everything done that I need to and then I crash.So to answer your question I to am useless in the mornings its either from the crohns flaring up the athritis or the fibro but I dread the mornings coming as much as you do?????Jenn
Had Crohns 17 years had numerous bowel resections,fistulas,fissures,hemmies,kidney problems,fibro,arthritis,dignosed at 13 had GI feeding tube,nasal feeding tube,cental lines,ports,4 ruptured bowel emergency surgeries,TMJ,depression,current meds are Hydromorphone,30 ,Hydromophome,8 ,Ketoprofen,100 ,Trazadone,50 ,Lorazepam,10 ,Zopliclone,5 ,atriplyine,75 ,Losac,50 Tylenol Athritis ,B-12 injections ,Iron injections ,Gravol,75 Predisone,5mg ,Humira,40mg once a week.Still looking for the doctor with all the answers if you find him forward him to me please.P.S my bathroom is the nicest room in my house cause i spend so much time there,i am thinking about installing the computer and maybe a hot-dog stand.


sr5599
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   Posted 6/1/2009 9:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Always worse in the mornings. The evenings are the second worse time. But, I'm with the others... Can't make it through breakfast or making breakfast for my girl without running to the bathroom multiple times.

Also, as Ivy suggests, I believe many people are in the "rhythm" of "going" in the morning - with or without Crohn's. Even before I was diagnosed that's when my body would signal time to go. It's just that now there is a lot of rectal inflammation and sometimes it signals it when there's only a little or even when there is nothing.
--female dx as UC in '04 (1st symptoms in '03), switched to Crohn's in '05, 1 fistula, crohn's colitis, limited to large intestine  --rejected (reaction/didn't work): Asacol, AZA, 6-MP, MTX, Remicade, Humira, prednisone, Tysabri
--Prochymal in Phase III study (can't wait til it's approved!)
--currently taking methylprednisolone 40mg-taper.  Started Cimzia first dose 2/10/09.  Dx Osteoporosis 10/08 started Forteo 1/27/09


CrohnsDaddy
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   Posted 6/2/2009 3:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Yup, mornings are my time, too. Even when I'm doing well (as well as it ever gets), I still end up making at least three trips in the a.m. When I'm flaring, I'll start the day off with 3-5 trips in the a.m., then a bunch of trips in the evening, which are usually associated with really nasty cramps that are much stronger and more painful than the morning cramps.
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Entocort 9 mg/day, Prednisone 20 mg/day, started Humira 1/22/08, started 100 mg of Azasan (Imuran) 2/20/08. Increased Azasan to 150 mg 10/15/08. Discontinued Humira 11/03/08 after extreme fatigue and moderate muscle aches. Started Cimzia 12/4/08. Down to 5 mg/day of Pred now, and will continue to taper until completely off as long as the other meds keep me off the porcelain.



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crohn's_mom
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   Posted 6/3/2009 6:25 PM (GMT -7)   
WOW! I am so glad I found this site!! My 10 year old son was just diagnosed with crohn's. He has had symptoms since Sept, (diagnosed UC in Dec, diagnosis changed after 2nd colonoscopy and 4 day hospital stay), and has had a horrible time with school and school attendance, ecspecially in the mornings. He is always saying he doesn't feel well in the mornings and never wanted to go to school until at least 10 am. He has the most pain in the mornings and later at night around bedtime. THe school argued with me and said it is probably just nerves and I should just send him anyway...saying he will be fine and that if he needs to lay down, he can lay down in the nurses office. But he's 10, when he isnt feeling well, he still just wants his Mommy or to lay down in his own bed, use his own toilet.

currently taking pentasa 2@250mg 2x daily, 30 mg prednisone, 20mg omeprazole 2x a day and 1/2 of 1,000mg canasa suppository nightly

CrohnsDaddy
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   Posted 6/3/2009 6:45 PM (GMT -7)   
crohn's_mom said...
WOW! I am so glad I found this site!! My 10 year old son was just diagnosed with crohn's. He has had symptoms since Sept, (diagnosed UC in Dec, diagnosis changed after 2nd colonoscopy and 4 day hospital stay), and has had a horrible time with school and school attendance, ecspecially in the mornings. He is always saying he doesn't feel well in the mornings and never wanted to go to school until at least 10 am. He has the most pain in the mornings and later at night around bedtime. THe school argued with me and said it is probably just nerves and I should just send him anyway...saying he will be fine and that if he needs to lay down, he can lay down in the nurses office. But he's 10, when he isnt feeling well, he still just wants his Mommy or to lay down in his own bed, use his own toilet.

currently taking pentasa 2@250mg 2x daily, 30 mg prednisone, 20mg omeprazole 2x a day and 1/2 of 1,000mg canasa suppository nightly


Yeah, besides the cramping and bathroom trips, a lot of crohnies (myself included) just don't feel well in the mornings. It's like perpetual Morning Sickness. Nausea, stiffness, soreness, fatigue. Just all around feeling yucky.
Just trying to be a "Regular Member".


Entocort 9 mg/day, Prednisone 20 mg/day, started Humira 1/22/08, started 100 mg of Azasan (Imuran) 2/20/08. Increased Azasan to 150 mg 10/15/08. Discontinued Humira 11/03/08 after extreme fatigue and moderate muscle aches. Started Cimzia 12/4/08. Down to 5 mg/day of Pred now, and will continue to taper until completely off as long as the other meds keep me off the porcelain.



I'm convinced that Prednisone is the root of all evil, and primarily responsible for global warming.

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