Powerful Nutrient Cocktail Can Put Kids With Crohn's Into Remission

New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> ]

dustspeck
Veteran Member


Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 565
   Posted 6/18/2009 7:07 AM (GMT -7)   
i wanted to share this article with you all that my friend forwarded to me this morning. it gives great hope for the next generation of crohn's sufferers.

hope you all are well!

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=105297618896&h=48Kh_&u=Lp9CV&ref=mf

activated your link

Post Edited By Moderator (Nanners) : 6/18/2009 10:12:53 AM (GMT-6)


Iram
Regular Member


Date Joined Jul 2003
Total Posts : 145
   Posted 6/18/2009 7:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Interesting, but it does not tell us what is the nutrition cocktail and if we can access it.

janicea
Regular Member


Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 350
   Posted 6/19/2009 5:36 AM (GMT -7)   
i thought the same things at first -- BUT what the article is actually conveying is that liquid nutrition puts crohn's into remission. So the point is that any nutritional powder combined with liquid would do the same thing (assuming it is compatible with your system and you've picked one you are not allergic to or something.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090616122119.htm
strictures, crohn's, adhesions, endo. fighting Pyoderma Gangrenosum.
Trying LDN 3.5mg nightly ~ because I'm allergic to pentasa and 5ASA's I'm taking Boswellia Serrata. SCD yogurt. Using silver sulfadiazine on Pyoderma . B-12 shots. Juicing veggies!


Writer
Regular Member


Date Joined Aug 2006
Total Posts : 443
   Posted 6/19/2009 6:16 AM (GMT -7)   
This is enteral nutrition they're talking about, something I suggest from time to time on these boards because I, too, think it is greatly underused. I wrote a book about it.

Iram
Regular Member


Date Joined Jul 2003
Total Posts : 145
   Posted 6/19/2009 6:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Non-american GI's seem to favor this method, but American GI's generally argue that it is not practical to be on enteral nutrition for months without solid food unless and otherwise one is an controlled environment like a hospital bed.

Writer
Regular Member


Date Joined Aug 2006
Total Posts : 443
   Posted 6/19/2009 6:31 AM (GMT -7)   
It's true there's a big difference between American and non-American practice in this regard. The thing is, many people can get a remission lasting several months or more by sticking with the diet for just three or four weeks so few people are actually on it for months at a time (unless they use two or three cans a day as a supplement to their regular meals, which is a lot easier). Of course, it will never be the perfect treatment for everyone, but I think those who wish to try it at least should be informed it's available.

janicea
Regular Member


Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 350
   Posted 6/19/2009 9:11 AM (GMT -7)   
I also thought it interesting that they made mention of 50% liquid - seemed like a good suggestion for maintainence. Can you link to your book info Writer? I maintain pretty much on liquids plus a very few foods a lot, I'm healthy and at a good weight. It's a shame more people don't try it. :)
strictures, crohn's, adhesions, endo. fighting Pyoderma Gangrenosum.
Trying LDN 3.5mg nightly ~ because I'm allergic to pentasa and 5ASA's I'm taking Boswellia Serrata. SCD yogurt. Using silver sulfadiazine on Pyoderma . B-12 shots. Juicing veggies!


Writer
Regular Member


Date Joined Aug 2006
Total Posts : 443
   Posted 6/19/2009 9:28 AM (GMT -7)   
janicea,
I don't think I'm allowed to add a link since I'm the author. I hope it will be OK to mention the title, which is: Beat Crohn's! Getting to Remission with Enteral Nutrition. A google search will find it. Glad that liquids are working for you. :)

janicea
Regular Member


Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 350
   Posted 6/19/2009 8:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks. I've got strictures right now, so I got into liquids because i didn't have other choices. It's been three years -- on and off, and I certainly see it works for me, it's easy. I don't get why people would go on immune modulators and stuff without trying it. I'll look for the book!
strictures, crohn's, adhesions, endo. fighting Pyoderma Gangrenosum.
Trying LDN 3.5mg nightly ~ because I'm allergic to pentasa and 5ASA's I'm taking Boswellia Serrata. SCD yogurt. Using silver sulfadiazine on Pyoderma . B-12 shots. Juicing veggies!


jhicks
Regular Member


Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 177
   Posted 6/21/2009 8:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Janicea,

Can you post a sampling of your diet for a couple of days, such as morning: Juice Carrots, Kale and apple; lunch: xxxx, dinnerxxx, snacks....


Maybe others of us can try it. Thanks!

janicea
Regular Member


Date Joined Feb 2009
Total Posts : 350
   Posted 6/21/2009 8:59 AM (GMT -7)   
well I can give you a list of what I eat -- I don't really do mealtimes and you need to keep in mind that I have a low metabolism because of some genetic fluke and menopause.... so others might have to eat more to maintain weight. When I worry about losing weight (like now, because I ahve a surgery coming up) I eat ice cream. The actual solid factor of my diet, depends on the space I have in my intestines at the time.
One note: I lived on smoothies and soup for 2 years. What I've going to write below is a more expanded version because that diet was strict liquid only I've found I can use pain and obstruction as a guide to what I can eat, I think the expanded version is more potentially helpful (below)

smoothie: either amazing green, rainbow light vanilla -- basically rice-based protein or pea rice protein -one serving.
(I avoid gluten/whey/soy in these powders - - but one could use anything with a good vitamin and protein base -- I try different ones)....
with SCD yogurt, or stonyfield, depending on my yogurt stash and: a banana and another fruit. I drink about 12-16 ounces of this and I blend the bejeezus out of it. You can also use frozen fruit and a banana.

you can also add some fruit juice... or a tsp of peanut or almond butter -- This start of the day gives me enough of everything that I need that I feel satisfied and not hungry at all. Over time I have discovered that protien is the key to not feeling like I want to eat everything in sight.

Then I usually go to the healthfood store and get a fresh carrot/celery/parsley juice at lunchtime. I also alternate with other greens and also get a shot of wheatgrass about 4x a week.

Around mid day I also either have some hummus, white bean dip, or if I'm in really good shape black bean dip with simple corn chips --or if my strictures are really swollen -- get this -- I eat hummus/white bean/blackbean diluted in plain yougurt (seriously this is really good, I know it sounds crazy, but it is sometimes I put in a little salsa or tomato) and maybe with chips depending on how i feel! Fruit if I feel like it, ice cream if I need to. some cheese melted on some chips, home made apple sauce (apples with no peels, baked with a little maple syrup and blended)
or -- again depending on my state of being: tuna w/a little mayo and pepper, or other kind of light fish, if Im doing really well, I can eat chicken salad and stuff like that. Salsa on a good day, with cheese melted on chips. Soups. baked potato (no skin), boiled or mashed potatoes.

Soup: make a base or buy one (I use whole foods house brand veggie broth, as i discovered all broths taste pretty much the same in the end) OR I save scraps of veggies in my freezer (ends of squash, carrots etc) and boil up my own. easy and good, strain it. Then I add, potatoes, and whatever other veggies I can tolerate (often frozen), quick cook them up and then blend the heck out of it. Some good combos:
1-black beans (canned), celery chopped fine, (optional - onions or a little frozen corn - cheese!!)
2-potatoes, frozen corn, some parsley or spinach or kale (not too much)
3-chicken potatoes yadayada
then make sure its pureed in the blender. You can imagine your own combos!
- if you're not gluten free you can also add crackers crumbled up in here when you eat it.
Again if I am doing well I also cook lentils to add to the soup, and I like to add curry, and I get poppodoms at my grocery - lentil crackers you cook in the microwave for 30 seconds.
I could go on and on here, but I think you get the idea.

So, theory-wise, assuming you've taken this to the liquid state (blend blend) except for the special additions (crackers poppodoms chicken) you're still liquid. Or liquidish, depending on that blending and your state of wellness. Anything can be liquid if it's pureed and there is a liquid base which you can adjust to how liqiod the liquid is.

anyway, I could go on, but before I do, I want to make sure this is helpful to you jhicks.

For me on a strict liquid diet, it would be 2 smoothies a day (beginning and end), veggie juice in the middle, ice cream, and the pureed soups with veggies only.

I also take a vitamin for good luck, a veggie based iron pill a couple of times a week, and I used a b-12 skin cream, which I've replaced wth b-12 shots.
I have also found a couple of caps of olive leaf extract totally keep candida at bay.
have a great day.
strictures, crohn's, adhesions, endo. fighting Pyoderma Gangrenosum.
Trying LDN 3.5mg nightly ~ because I'm allergic to pentasa and 5ASA's I'm taking Boswellia Serrata. SCD yogurt. Using silver sulfadiazine on Pyoderma . B-12 shots. Juicing veggies!


jhicks
Regular Member


Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 177
   Posted 6/21/2009 12:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks!
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
Forum Information
Currently it is Friday, December 09, 2016 10:29 AM (GMT -7)
There are a total of 2,735,392 posts in 301,299 threads.
View Active Threads


Who's Online
This forum has 151402 registered members. Please welcome our newest member, Len.
334 Guest(s), 8 Registered Member(s) are currently online.  Details
robotguy, Teamchris, Paxton, Mad Martha, Faustmann, pmm73, maria2016, quincy


Follow HealingWell.com on Facebook  Follow HealingWell.com on Twitter  Follow HealingWell.com on Pinterest
Advertisement
Advertisement

©1996-2016 HealingWell.com LLC  All rights reserved.

Advertise | Privacy Policy & Disclaimer