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randynoguts
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   Posted 6/28/2009 4:52 PM (GMT -7)   
turn  hey guys. seems my protien is in need of aboost, but with my TPN they dont want to put too much in it because of liver damage etc..  so here is the list of stuff ive been instructed to eat... eggs,bacon,sausage links,coldcuts, lunch meat,peanut butter,cheese,subway sandwiches,Mc d's cheeseburgers,1/4 pounders,burrito's,peperoni pizza,hot dogs,meat,milk,ice cream, cottage cheese,yogurt (i'll skip the last 2) YUK!
 
    how many people would kill to get a prescribed diet like this?  i can just imagine,,,, " honey the dr told me i have to eat this!"  it could be the man diet for all ages!
 
    " no dear, you can have all the salad, i have to finish this steak" turn
 
      you may now start your jealous reply's 
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MMMNAVY
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   Posted 6/28/2009 4:58 PM (GMT -7)   
LOL...I am laughing too hard...
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spookyh
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   Posted 6/28/2009 10:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Are you sure your dietitian isn't secretly plotting to kill you? Did she mention anything about recently taking out a life insurance policy on you smilewinkgrin?
34 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Current Meds: Humira since 7/08, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, B-Complex, Vitamins D, E, & K, Calcium, Magnesium, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


conker21
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   Posted 6/29/2009 1:58 AM (GMT -7)   
I am so so so jealous my dietician has put me on a 8 week liquid diet (Modulen) like a milkshake so YUCK! what i would do for mcd cheeseburger i am so so so so jealous!!
I want your dietician
Currently age 21, on 8 pentasa day and start Nestle Modulen very soon!
Diagnosed with Crohns in 2006
Live in the UK
 


randynoguts
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   Posted 6/29/2009 2:26 AM (GMT -7)   
well i started off my new diet with a 14oz new york steak with a baked potato with plenty of butter. just knowing i was getting healthy while eating was a big help..;0). i think ill go have some cheese .........
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crohnielass
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   Posted 6/29/2009 2:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, i too was given the same advice from my dietian saying eat chips,cakes,icecream and so on i was like god is she for real!! its great though to be able to eat it i do miss my fresh fruit though Bev x

Diagnosed with crohn's at 13 now 42
resection, right hemi 1993 In remmision from 93 till last sept with no meds or docs
2 resections small bowel  and fistula jan 09 and given temp stoma. Asacol, Flagyl, B12 shots,iron syrup,loperimide, Sertraline 50mg (for Anxiety)


FallColors
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   Posted 6/29/2009 3:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Here is a receipe your Doctor might like for you -- Bacon Explosion.

http://www.bbqaddicts.com/blog/recipes/bacon-explosion/


Crank up that grill and enjoy!
Diagnosed with Crohn's in early 2007.  Several peri-rectal abscesses and two fistulae with setons.  Allergic to Remicade and Humira.  Currently on 6MP, and vitamins D and B-12.


HabsHockeyFan
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   Posted 6/29/2009 5:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Mmmmmmm...steak. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm red meat. Ok randy I am jealous.
However, I have the dessert diet here so am I really that jealous. When i am feeling lousy, I eat cake, brownies, ice cream, cookies. Odd, but those actually are less a bother to my gut than anything else

Alright...I am jealous....cake does not fill that craving to gnaw on a hunk of steak. Once I had a piece of steak I chewed on and spit out just so I could have the taste....I am heading to the grill now even though it is only 8:30 in the morning here.
Dx'd '90 (emergency rupture), symptoms ignored long before that, '03 fistulas and bad flagyl reactions, B12 weekly, Pentasa [until I surrender to the bigger meds]
I'm riding on the escalator of life....


Nanners
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   Posted 6/29/2009 11:53 AM (GMT -7)   
STEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BACON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, Yes I'm jealous:)
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease and Anxiety/Panic Forum
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium  w/Vit D, and Xanax as needed for my anxiety.  Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

snohare
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   Posted 6/29/2009 12:31 PM (GMT -7)   
shockedshakehead Broken, Scottish sobs from a baconless, steakless, pizzapanting, icecreamless peanutbutteroholic on the wagon.... cry
idea But I just found a butcher who does gluten free organic sausages - only another month until I am up his way again !! smilewinkgrin

rovin1959
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   Posted 6/29/2009 12:40 PM (GMT -7)   
I am happy for you.Or am i?? i am stuck with the old BRAT diet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(eat some for me)
Mary Lynn


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 6/29/2009 4:32 PM (GMT -7)   
here is my nickel worth...

high pri

watch out for sandwich meats/cold cuts/sausage/not dogs/etc - they are loaded with preservatives like sodium and nitrates/nitrites = bad.

avoid fast food at all cost. subway is still fast food, but is maybe better than most cos it is not fried.

ice cream is just sugar.

eggs are fantastic.

yogurt is ok, plain is best. kefir is better than yogurt.

butter is fat, but it is a good fat. get the real legit butter, not a vegetable oil spread. your body needs saturated fat and really, how much butter do you really use in one sitting? not a lot.

pizza is just bread = empty calories = you get fat

lean meats are best, be it chicken, turkey, or red meat. lamb and bison are better than cow (ie steak). fish is good too, but make sure it is wild/ocean caught, not farmed.

milk is ok. you can skip it if you like. meat is a better source of protein. goat and sheep milk are better than cow milk. if you drink cow milk, get the raw stuff. it is worth it. same goes for cheese.

do a Salisbury steak instead of a hamburger.

make your own burritos. much healthier.

use almond butter instead of peanut butter. more expensive but much better for you and you neednt worry about the e coli scare.

beans and legumes have protein, so dont discriminate. dont do soy though - it seems good as it has a good protein profile, but it is not a health food and does more bad than good for you. sprout your beans. bare minimum, soak them for 8 hours before cooking.


best of luck to you randy!
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


spookyh
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   Posted 6/29/2009 6:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I bought a bison roast for the first time last week. It was really good! My silly dad refused to eat it. He has crohn's too, and could really benefit from some of the healthy foods I make. But, he prefers to eat crap like McDonald's. At least my mom likes my food.

How about prosciutto? Most brands are just pork and salt. You get away from all the junk they put in cold cuts.

I'm a huge fan of almond butter! I like to mix just a little honey in it for a treat. Tonight, I'm making blueberry muffins from almond flour. They smell good, so hopefully they taste good too.

I'm also a big fan of plain yogurt with honey. I make a frozen yogurt out of it that comes out like soft serve. Very yummy (and extremely high calorie).
34 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Current Meds: Humira since 7/08, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, B-Complex, Vitamins D, E, & K, Calcium, Magnesium, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


FitzyK23
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   Posted 6/29/2009 8:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Crazy Harry - what is the health difference between wild fish and farm raised? We eat a lot of fish but our local market carries a good amount of farm raised. I try to buy wild when it is economical for environmental reasons but I didn't know about health reasons.

Curious about your point about Subway. I don't eat there anymore b/c it always makes me throw up. But I can make sandwiches at home no problem. What is more unhealthy at subway than at home?

How do you feel about Whey protein? I am lactose intollerant so I use soy milk in cereal or smoothies but that is about it for soy in my diet. I like to make protein shakes occasionaly w/ a fruit, yogurt, whey protein, and soy milk.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 6/29/2009 9:48 PM (GMT -7)   
FitzyK23 -

i am the same way - i eat out it makes me sick. i make the same thing at home i'm ok. it has to be ingredients. sure maybe a little psychological too for me now that i know a bit about nutrition, but if i make it myself it is fresh and i can eliminate or reduce the bad ingredients and i dont have some one else with questionable hygiene handling my food.


whey protien is a very good protien. it is one of the two proteins from dairy (the other being caesin which is harder to digest and is responsible for milk allergies). egg white protein is a step down from whey but is also good. i've started to see some vegan protein powders now, but plant based protein is inferior to animal, so imho, dont use them. if you can handle whey protein then use it. the stuff in the big tubs are junk so dont waste your money. you need to do some research on this to find the good brands and types of whey protein you want. i forget off hand, but i know it when i see it in the store, so sorry i cant provide recommendations.


as for soy, ditch it. use almond milk instead. Soybeans have been cleverly disguised as health foods and wrongly championed by the health industry as the near perfect food. As tragic as it may sound, if you take a good look at the research you will find that soybeans really are not that good for you. For starters soybeans are the number one genetically modified (GMO) crop in America. Roundup Ready soybeans have been genetically modified to include the herbicide Roundup in the actual soybean itself. Soybeans are high in phytates, which prevent the absorption of minerals. Soybeans contain natural toxins called “anti-nutrients” which are essentially enzyme inhibitors. Many research studies have linked soybeans to a long list of problems, including impaired thyroid and immune system functions, reproductive disorders, impeding the sexual maturation of boys while accelerating that of girls, promotion of kidney stones, and even cancer and heart disease. Soy milk is actually a waste product from the tofu making process. Someone figured out that if this waste product is processed some more with added ingredients they can sell it as a milk substitute. Soybeans are marketed to you at Japanese restaurants as edamame. The Asian culture, particularly the Japanese, can live just fine on soybeans since they have been doing so for generation upon generation whereas the rest of us have not. Plus they eat a much healthier diet that includes more vegetables, and they generally eat fermented versions of soy (tempeh, miso, natto, and tamari) that negates most if not all of the negative effects of soy. The unfermented version of soy is the one to stay away from. Unfortunately it is the unfermented version you will find in tofu, soy milk, soy protein isolates, soy ice cream, soybean oil, and many, many other soy derivative food products. And steer clear of hydrolyzed soy protein, which is a common ingredient in imitation foods.


as for fish, read this. i forget where i got the article, but it should answer some of your questions:

High in protein, high in omega-3 fatty acids, a provider of vitamin D, B12, niacin, selenium, B6, magnesium and calcium—those are just some of the benefits of eating salmon and other fatty fish.
But what about farmed salmon vs. wild salmon? Are there any differences?
The answer is a resounding yes. And these differences are significant for health.
For starters, North American, South American, and European farm-raised salmon have high levels of PCBs and other environmental toxins (as many as 14 toxins--some of them human carcinogens) than wild salmon, according to researchers at Indiana University and five additional research centers. The study’s leader, Professor Ronald Hites, from the IU School of Public and Environmental Affairs, said, “We think it’s important for people who eat salmon to know that farmed salmon have higher levels of toxins than wild salmon from the open ocean.”
They think it’s so important that they also recommended limitations on how much farmed salmon a person should eat per month. The recommended amounts varied from one-half a meal of salmon per month to no more than two meals of salmon per month. Compare those recommendations to how much wild salmon you can safely eat—which is as many as eight meals per month—and you catch a glimpse of how serious these scientists consider the toxins in farmed salmon.
And this is a rather broad problem, since the production of farmed salmon has increased 40-fold over the past twenty years. And it appears that the toxins may be derived from what these farm-raised salmon are fed. Hites and his fellow scientists measured toxins in this “salmon chow’—which is a mixture of ground-up fish and oil fed to the farm-raised salmon—and found a correlation between the toxicity of the feed and the toxicity of the salmon. They believe that the toxins are passed from the feed into the salmon.
But the toxin level in farmed salmon is not the only reason why wild salmon is preferred over farmed salmon. Here are some more convincing reasons:
Wild salmon contains more omega-3 fatty acids than farmed fish, a Norwegian study suggests. In the past, it was believed that farmed fish contained more beneficial omega-3s, but more recently, it is generally accepted that the percentage of omega-3 fats in farmed salmon is lower than in wild salmon. Additionally, farmed salmon is usually cooked in ways that reduce its fat content (due to its contaminants), thereby lowering its fatty acid content. Finally, fish feed is being used with less fish meat in it and more plant foods, which can lower the amount of omega-3s in the salmon.
Salmon farmers often use antibiotics and pesticides to control disease and these can be passed along to any consumer of the fish. These chemicals can potentially causes negative health effects for those who ingest the antibiotic-ridden or pesticide-laced salmon.
So, when it comes to your choice of salmon, it’s best to “take a walk on the wild side”—by selecting wild salmon, that is.
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


Keeper
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   Posted 6/29/2009 10:03 PM (GMT -7)   
All that and the stuff that they add to the salmon feed to make the meat red (it would be gray otherwise) is not good for you either. I won't go into the damage done to the native salmon runs by sea lice and viruses from the salmon farms.....

ItSawesomeJohn
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   Posted 6/29/2009 10:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Regardless you only live once Boone is gonna eat. That much salmon . And as for subway stay away even turkey has so much preservatives and the bread has wheat. Boone ever questions (oh by any chance were do you buy your meat is it Thumanns or Board head ) subway is not a deli it's a fast food sandwich shop . Had to say it.

ItSawesomeJohn
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   Posted 6/29/2009 10:51 PM (GMT -7)   
One more thing there's no way if you have crohns u can eat all that

randynoguts
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   Posted 6/30/2009 1:56 AM (GMT -7)   
awesome john,, you meanme when you say i cant eat all that? i beg to differ. i have and will eat it all! its my goal. :o)... thats about all i eat anyway. mmm protien......
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ItSawesomeJohn
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   Posted 6/30/2009 5:24 AM (GMT -7)   
idk why you wouldwant todo that to yourself . we are alldifferent but eating all thosethings deff isnt right sausage links no way idk how you tolerate it.but dieticians prescribe a diet and they really dont eat like that.for crohns ohh high fiber is ok i say no its not . these dieticians think they knoe but they really knoe nothin about crohns. buthey just be safe eating those things it really creeps up on you like a nightmare remeber that lol ....and hey i wish i could eat a nice juiccy piece of kennedy fried chicken its so worth it lol  be safe

HabsHockeyFan
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   Posted 6/30/2009 5:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Randy...it appears some of our newer folks don't know your whole story....Ihope a visit to your website does not scare them :-)
A day later and i am still in envy....funny I lit the grill and it kept throwing the steak back off! It has forgotten how beef tastes too hehehehehehe
Dx'd '90 (emergency rupture), symptoms ignored long before that, '03 fistulas and bad flagyl reactions, B12 weekly, Pentasa [until I surrender to the bigger meds]
I'm riding on the escalator of life....


Nanners
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   Posted 6/30/2009 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeah Randy,

I definetly think the newbies need to read up on your story. I think they think you don't have much experience with Crohns and its dietary issues:)

Hugs
Gail *Nanners*
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Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium  w/Vit D, and Xanax as needed for my anxiety.  Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

ISF13+
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   Posted 6/30/2009 9:02 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm guessing that weight gain isn't an issue. What about your heart health? Did your dietician think about that? Wow. How's the gut feeling now that its been a couple of days? Basically, I can't over-do anything or I have issues. I can eat most anything, just in moderation. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Crohn's Disease. 
Diagnosed 13+ years ago. 
Been in remission for short periods of time but each time I come out of remission my disease seems to have spread.  No longer isolated in my ileum, now from stomach down to rectum.  Currently have C-Diff.
Current Medications for the Crohns:  Humera 40mg injections every other week, Imuran 150mg, 3xday, Levsin, Welchol 625mg, Prednisone 5mg(for 6 more days), Flagyl 250mg, 3xday, Calcium, Acidophilus & Potassium
Previous Medications I've been on:  Asocal, Pentasa, Cipro & Entocort


FitzyK23
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   Posted 6/30/2009 12:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Randy - sorry to hijack your post but I wanted to respond to Crazy Harry: I bought a small container of BioChem Whey Protein in Vanilla. I has no artificial sweeteners etc. It was from my local health food store; not GNC.
27 Year old married female law student (last year!!). Diagnosed w/ CD 4 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD. I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid. For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn. I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13. I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium. Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I take xanax prn for situational anxiety (aka no easy bathroom access). 


randynoguts
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   Posted 6/30/2009 2:44 PM (GMT -7)   
fitzy.. no problem with the hi-jacking..

everyone else, yes i guess i forget that the recent people have not followed me or been to my website for the whole poop story...

newbies, short and sweet, i have about 2 feet of intestine, i do not absorb fats or many nutrients, i have been on TPN for nearly 10 years, my cholesterol is in the 50 range, and im a 25+ year CD sufferer.. :o)
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