2 quick questions about yogurt and probiotics

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dinkydee
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   Posted 7/9/2009 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Do you need to make your own yogurt as in the SCD diet?  What is a good one to buy if not.  Should I eat yogurt?
What do I buy for a probiotic and where? Guess that's 3!
thanks!
Diagnosed with CD 3 years ago.  Refused to take meds until recently started Colazal. 
 Currently on Prednisone 40mg.
 
I live by faith and not by sight....


EMom
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   Posted 7/9/2009 7:51 AM (GMT -7)   
jmho.... there are only two reasons NOT to eat yogurt. Either you have a casein allergy (considered VERY uncommon) or you are lactose intolerant (as many Crohnies are).

Two reasons to make your own yogurt: If you make your own and ferment it for 24 hours it is virtually lactose free! Store-bought yogurt is higher in lactose and MUCH lower in beneficial bacteria. Home made yogurt has purportedly FOUR TIMES the amount of beneficial bacteria that store-bought! Amazing! If you can tolerate it, I would eat it! Start with a single tablespoon per day and gradually increase over time.

A pretty good one to buy if you don't want to make your own is Stonyfield Farm's organic, plain yogurt. You can add honey to sweeten it if you wish. Many other store-bought yogurts have either sweetener or sugar added as well as carrageenan as a thickener/emulsifier. Carrageenan is hidden in soooo many things (even milk!) and MANY people are finding their intestines are VERY sensitive to it. Steer clear!

Keep in mind, though, that it's cheaper and more beneficial to make your own yogurt.

The probiotic discussion comes up here a lot. Everyone has their favorite brand. You may need to experiment until you find the one that works best for you. Different brands have different strains or species of beneficial bacteria. My personal opinion is to buy a GOOD one. By that I mean like everything else in life, you get what you pay for. Choose one with multiple strains and species and at LEAST 10-15 billion cfu (colony forming units; guarantees the little good-guys will survive the stomach acid and make it to your intestines!). If you care to read more about what brands everyone uses, use the forum search and put "probiotics" in it! Good luck to you! :-)
Mom to 17 year old son diagnosed in June, 2007.
Omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, vit. C, calcium, vit. D3, a good multivitamin and SCD legal yogurt
Started The Maker's Diet in Sept. '07. Incorporate Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) recipes, too. Med-free.


Zanne
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   Posted 7/9/2009 9:00 AM (GMT -7)   
At one point I was trying to do the SCD and made the yogurt. I could not tolerate the taste. I just couldn't doctor it up any which way to make it so that I could eat it. I am not a huge yogurt fan to begin with, but homemade yogurt was pretty much the worst as far as I was concerned. But I do try to eat a good yogurt with active probiotics in it.

And like Emom said, you get what you pay for and you may need to try several brands before you find one that works for you. There have been many discussions on probiotics so you may be able to do a search and find some good info that way.
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


spookyh
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   Posted 7/9/2009 1:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I love the homemade yogurt! I put a little honey in it, and yum turn. I make mine with a mix of whole milk and half & half. If I'm going to use it in a recipe (like squash pie, frozen yogurt, or cheesecake), I use all half & half. You can also drip it if you want a creamier and less tart yogurt.

If you're going to follow SCD, you do need to make your own yogurt. It eliminates most of the lactose, and only contains the probiotic strains of l.bulgaricus, s.thermophilus, and l.acidophilus. Of course you don't HAVE to eat the yogurt if you don't want to, but buy a quality probiotic if you don't.
34 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Current Meds: Humira since 7/08, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, B-Complex, Vitamins D, E, & K, Calcium, Magnesium, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


Mom3
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   Posted 7/9/2009 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
What is SCD?
Diagnosed with Crohn's in the ileum, 2005. Treated with Pentasa and Prednisone. Had surgery June, 2009 to remove intestine and fistula. Will be starting 6MP.


spookyh
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   Posted 7/9/2009 4:06 PM (GMT -7)   
The Specific Carbohydrate Diet. You can read all about it at http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/
34 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Current Meds: Humira since 7/08, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, B-Complex, Vitamins D, E, & K, Calcium, Magnesium, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 7/9/2009 4:32 PM (GMT -7)   
imho, the taste of the scd yogurt depends on your starters, the brand of yogurt, and fat content of the milk. i could not get the yogurt to set properly using raw milk. it would turn to liquid immediately upon putting my spoon in it. i found that using clover or organic pastures/valley brand organic whole milk worked and tasted the best. it was even better with some raw organic cream added to the milk in the yogurt making process. the scd yogurt i made was the best ever. super tasty.

however i do question the temp my scd yogurt was cooked at for the 24 hrs, that is did it exceed the proper temp range and if so for how long? i'm too lazy to rig it with a dimmer switch and cut holes in my machine to insert a thermometer. eventually i'll need to get a dehydrator and make it that way.

as for store bought yogurts, i'd only get goat or sheeps milk yogurts and kefir. plain of course. i only use cow milk yogurt as a marinade, like for tandori chicken, cos you through it all away.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


pb4
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   Posted 7/9/2009 5:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Store bought yogurts naturally have the lactose already broken down in them (if eating store bought bothers you then you likely have a casein intolerance)...eating plain is best cuz generally the fruit/flavored ones will have added sugar which can exacerbate IBD symptoms...a great probiotic that I use is one called Primadophilus Reuteri made by natures way, it to aids with lactose intolerance issues and has guaranteed intestinal release, only one/day is needed.

:)
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