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Hellokitty
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   Posted 9/12/2009 5:34 AM (GMT -7)   
In the scd diet it mensions cheese alot. Im allergic to this product but what if you used goats cheese. Im on a mostly vegan diet at the present bt im just wondering.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication-  500mg pentasa,  250 mg  asacol (every evening)
Diet- Back on the raw foods.
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity
 

EMom
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   Posted 9/12/2009 6:02 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't know much about goat cheeses, but I do know that the SCD requires AGED, hard cheeses. I would think as long as the goat cheese is an aged, hard cheese it would be fine!

My son follows the SCD but will not eat dairy (except the SCD legal yogurt). It makes the diet a bit more limiting without cheese, but it is do-able!
Mom to 17 year old son diagnosed in June, 2007.
Omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, vit. C, calcium, vit. D3, a good multivitamin and SCD legal yogurt
Started The Maker's Diet in Sept. '07. Incorporate Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) recipes, too. Med-free.
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MoobyDoo
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   Posted 9/12/2009 6:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I know lots and lots of moms who have done SCD for their children and have successfully used goat milk products rather than cow products. 

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ExJohnson
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   Posted 9/12/2009 7:36 AM (GMT -7)   
I think that in the SCD the reason the cheese needs to be aged is because of the lactose, but research is now showing that recent varieties of cows have a protien, casien, that people are showing allergies too.

The recommendations are to find an older variety cow that hasn't been newly bred (like a jersey or angus, compared to Brahmans or Holstiens, relatively 'newer' cows) and get milk from there, or to use goats milk as it doesn't have this protien at all. Hope this helps.
I am a pre-30yr. old who has been diagnosed with Crohn's for 14 years.  Symptoms change from cramping and weight loss to severe anemia with fatigue and diarrhea. 
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EMom
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   Posted 9/12/2009 8:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Actually, goat's milk DOES have lactose, just a little less. So if lactose is your problem, goat's milk will probably not help you. This is why Elaine Gottschall recommends no liquid milk in *any* form. It is also why she recommends aged cheeses. Cheeses that have been aged have virtually no lactose left, thus are "legal".

Also, goat's milk (according to article below) does contain trace amounts of casein. So if casein is your sensitivity, goat's milk may again not be the answer. From what I've read, though, most people who truly have a casein sensitivity (considered *very* uncommon) usually can tolerate goat's milk.

http://askdrsears.com/html/3/t032400.asp

Hellokitty
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   Posted 9/12/2009 1:03 PM (GMT -7)   
ok this makes since- thanks guys. I have always had a dairy allergy and was raised on goats milk, but as i got older the doctors told to put me on cows milk. Im wondering if this has contruibuted to me getting UC and i really never grew out of my allergie.


I hate UC its awful. its a horrid disease.

my first majour flare made me have a fever, joint aces, diharea, stomach spasam pain and acid reflux. I started treating this through diet after that. I still get symtoms from time to time. but no urgency. ive been doing this for 2 months and 1 week. Not long.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication-  500mg pentasa,  250 mg  asacol (every evening)
Diet- Back on the raw foods.
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity
 

Keeper
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   Posted 9/13/2009 10:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Like Emom said, there are two ways to be sensitive to cows milk. The first is lactose intolerance. That is helped by eating aged cheeses and home-made yogurt and the like where the lactose is eliminated. The other is a casein allergy. If you are allergic to the milk protein, you would have to try goats milk or sheep milk products. The lactose in those can still be a problem for Crohn's, so you would need to eat lactose-free forms of it - like aged cheese and fully fermented yogurt.

You can try testing the lactose vs. casein sensitivity by eating a serving of a lactose-free milk product - like aged cheese - while eating only other foods that don't give you trouble. If it works, try a few days in a row of that to be sure before trying other iffy foods. Sometimes it takes a few days for a reaction to build up.

*Phoebe*
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   Posted 9/13/2009 11:03 PM (GMT -7)   

Does anyone here on the SCD take lactose-free milk?? I cant imagine life without milk all together – I am a tea addict!!


EMom
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   Posted 9/14/2009 5:56 AM (GMT -7)   
*Phoebe* said...
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Not here. MAP is too real of a concern.

spookyh
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   Posted 9/14/2009 9:00 AM (GMT -7)   
This is what Elaine says about lactose-free milk:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/lactose_hydrolized_milk.htm

However, Elaine approved the following:

Find the Lact-Aid to Lacteeze DROPS. Find legal heavy cream without illegals added. Add the drops. Shake well. Store in the refrigerator for at least 24 hours, shaking every few hours. Use small amounts in coffee or tea.
34 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Current Meds: Humira since 7/08, Pentasa, Effexor XR
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, B-Complex, Vitamins D, E, & K, Calcium, Magnesium, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


njmom
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   Posted 9/14/2009 9:54 AM (GMT -7)   

Goat's milk casein easier to digest.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:RmpfDP3mYHwJ:www.laloos.com/sharethelove.php+yogurt+breaks+down+casein&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  1. Curd strength. goat's milk casein forms a less tough and more friable curd than the casein of cow's milk. This means the digestive enzymes can break it down more rapidly. Alpha-S1 casein is the main casein in cow's milk and this contributes to the firmer curd; goat's milk contains low levels of alpha-S1 casein.

njmom
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   Posted 9/14/2009 9:57 AM (GMT -7)   

The lactic acid producing bacteria in yogurt also break down casein.

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