Help on eating through the day!!!!!!

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Nebraskagirl
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   Posted 10/15/2009 5:06 PM (GMT -7)   
smhair   I was just wondering if anyone had advice for me to eat. I dont go to a "NEW" dr until end of nov. once again to see if this is chrons( I know it is) I have never ate breakfast, as I said I work for a dr. and nibble on cheese crackers all day and really not much time for lunch, my lunch is at desk on phone taking care of patients, so I pretty much go all day without eating, and about 7.oo pm Im hungry and binge on chicken and rice ect. then my stomach and left side is killing me because I just gorged which I know your not suppose to do.
Im going to start the SCD DIET, this weekend (money willing?) raising 3 kids alone i am on tight budget. LOL but tonight I did buy  bananas, strawberry's, plain yougurt, and honey to make the smoothies on SCD DIET. 
 
But I was just wondering if anyone had any ideas of what I could do through the day instead of gorging at night. Also, has anyone else had problems with left side pain. I always have it, and its worse after I eat. It's left side like someone is squezzing it hard and when im almost done eating if feels like something is moving through the left side with bubbles and most of the time it has a burning sensation. But defintly made worse after I eat. This has been going on for a couple of months. I dont take meds right now, I do have predinosone, but it seems to help for a couple of days and then seems really hard on my stomach(GIVEN BY Primary MD). Well anyways hope everyone is ok and gonna have a good week. THANK YOU turn
 

Howlyncat
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   Posted 10/15/2009 5:40 PM (GMT -7)   
....Hi there.....i have recently lost quite alot of my weight during hospitalization and eating for me was the same as u when i came home ...i would not eat all day just go crazy at night this caused probs with the cd as well as sleeping and basically everything...I know i have to eat so if i dont feel
like eating i do tolerate the ensure not all ppl do i drink at least 2 a day and i have started to myself eat as i know it scared the life out of my daughter with me on life support.Can u possibly take some small snacks with you to work like a half a sandwich ....cup o soup and try to make yourself eat that little amount...i do know what its like not having an appetite and then gorging at night it caused me severe probs with my dd.....i am sure many others will have some other ideas that will help you out soon......pleese do try to have some nourishment thru the day can u tolerate ensure.....keep us posted on how you are doing ...........take care....lyn
   
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spookyh
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   Posted 10/15/2009 9:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Have you read Breaking the Vicious Cycle yet? If not, you can download a pdf of it at http://www.scribd.com/doc/11844050/Breaking-the-Vicious-Cycle-by-the-late-Elaine-Gottschall# . It's easy to make mistakes at the beginning, so don't get discouraged.

You need to make your own yogurt, because store bought isn't fermented long enough and still has a lot of lactose in it. You can use the stuff you bought as a starter, so long as it only has L. Bulgarius, S. Thermophilus, and L. Acidophilus in it (and no additives). Also, make sure you don't eat the bananas until they have lots of brown spots on them. Be wary of the strawberries, a lot of people can't do raw fruit at the beginning, and the seeds could be an issue too.

As far as money goes, I don't find it any more costly than a regular diet. I don't eat almond flour though, which is probably what people find to be expensive.

In the beginning, easy stuff to eat at work would be the yogurt, banana, and soup (or just the broth). If you make bone broth, that's supposed to be nourishing and would be easy to drink if you're not feeling well. Applesauce might go over well too.

If you have any SCD questions, just ask! You can also join the BTVC yahoo group at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BTVC-SCD/
34 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: Humira since 7/08, Pentasa, Effexor XR, Zyrtec
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, B-Complex, Vitamins D, E, & K, Calcium, Magnesium, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods


Nebraskagirl
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   Posted 10/16/2009 3:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all for information. One I didnt realize about yougurt. Is there a certain place to buy the rt yougurt? I just bought plain yougurt at grocery store and didnt reliaze about bananas being ripe, and strawberrys with seeds, havent had them in years. I know there's alot on SCD diet I wouldnt dare try. Salad would send me to hopital, cant even handle hambuger meat anymore. Chicken is only thing I can adjusst too. As far as ensure shakes ect, Ive tried them when I was on medical leave and they make my stomach cramp bad and give me loose stools, so i quit drinking them. Even for some reason I get sick from gatorade. I know there's alot Im so sensitive to still and I dont know why. I do eat low sodium soup but still swell and bloat bad but my stomach seems to deal with it pretty good.

Its funny how many things I cant eat, Ive just learned a handful of things I can, but my body cant continue on peanutbutter cracker, chicken and rice and canned peas and green beans, I bought ricee milk bought have been scared to even try it. I will say I do smoke and Ive heard thats bad for CHRONS, but have tried things to quit even CHANTIX but the side effects are bad and kill my stomach. I dont know if I should try takeing pred. again on my own or not. They started me on 6 a day and then teter down, but I couldnt handle that much, I was a zombie and it hurt my stomach and wouldnt eat at all. Im always very, very gassy at night and in the a.m.(GROSE). I cant break myself of decaf coffee, creamer, sugar substiute im addicted to it and im sure I probably shouldnt be drinking it, but makes me go to the bathroom in the am. The new think Ive notice the last month in a half and havent told anyone, not even kids, I have like a brain fog, I dont know if from lack of food, Im forgetting how to spell and then trying to do simple things, I forget and takes me a bit to remember how to do it. Its gotten worse which is not good, because I take care of patients, medicines for people ect. but its like my memory is slipping worse and worse? Has anyone else had this problem, could it be from malnourshiment? Well thank you all and I hope everyone has wonderful weekend......

Trigirl
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   Posted 10/16/2009 6:00 AM (GMT -7)   
You need to be serious about some nutrition!! Oh my goodness. The SCD diet could work but smoking is not helping things at all. Same with the coffee.

I had a sore left side for oh, a year and had to change the eating patterns. I did the same dumb thing as you so I can say this. Ate way too much at night. I could use my little back massager and push the food thru the sore spot. I always felt better with no food in my intestines. I would drink boost diluted 1/3. It made me drink more liquids and kept the sugar level from being too low.

Spread out the food during the day. I blend veggies and meats (mostly chicken) into soups and take it in a thermos. I make my own yogurt and the right kind of yogurt has no starch, sugars, pectin,ect. You basically want just the milk and the bacterials. Making custard is easy and cheap and nutritious. I use pumpkin, yogurt, eggs and some honey. I got the recipe from the " BReaking the Vicious Cycle" book mentioned above.

My idea is that unless you change the bad habits you will continue to hurt yourself. It's hard to change habit but you are the master of the ship. Good luck and hope you get some relief soon.
This heights by great men reached and kept, were not obtained by sudden flight, but they while their companions slept, were toiling upward in the night.
H.W. Longfellow
Thyroid cancer removed 1988
Stomach problems finally figured out 2001 Crohn's/Colitus
Tried every drug without much success
Colon/rectal cancer removed Aug 2009
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spookyh
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   Posted 10/16/2009 1:36 PM (GMT -7)   
If you decide to do SCD, I'd recommend doing further research before starting. At minimum, read Breaking the Vicious Cycle. There are some important things you need to learn, like no canned fruits and veggies (only frozen and fresh). Also, cook, peel, and deseed all fruits and veggies at the beginning (with the exception of raw banana and avocado). No decaf coffee (regular is okay though), no creamer, and saccharin in the only legal artificial sweetener (honey is fine too). Peanut butter is tough to digest, so you'll want to try either almond butter or pecan butter instead.

There is no place to buy SCD yogurt, you need to make it yourself. It's easy though, and you don't even need a yogurt maker. You can incubate it in a cupboard, your oven, in an insulated box, etc.

Also, it's best to start out with the intro diet for 2 - 5 days to help your system clean out and adjust to a new form of eating.

Here are some websites to help you learn about SCD:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/
http://www.pecanbread.com/
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BTVC-SCD/
http://nomorecrohns.com/startingthediet.aspx

Good luck!
34 years old, Crohn's disease for 15 of them
Resection of ileocecal valve on 09/22/09
Current Meds: Humira since 7/08, Pentasa, Effexor XR, Zyrtec
Supplements: 3 kinds of Fish Oil, Multi-Vitamin, B-Complex, Vitamins D, E, & K, Calcium, Magnesium, Enzymes
SCD since 12/01/08 - eating Stage 3 foods

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