HUMIRA vs REMICADE

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ERANJO
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   Posted 10/22/2009 3:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I have been on Humira for almost 2 yrs now, it has helped with all my crohns symptoms, but for the past 6 months, my osteoarthritis is acting up BAD... I have a GI doc appt on Monday, and I was thinking about asking him about switching to Remicade, I was told that Remicade helps with arthritis part along with the crohns part better than Humira.   Has anyone had experience with this?  Is this true ??
 
I am also in the process of looking for a new Rheumy, I have been telling him of all my PAIN, he wants to put me on anti depressants, I dont feel depressed, I am just in pain all over....
 
Thanks Kelly  

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   Posted 10/22/2009 6:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Well sometimes it helps sometimes it don't you just have to try and see if it helps you.
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   Posted 10/22/2009 5:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I have significant inflammatory osteoarthritis. I also have numerous joints effected by ankylosing spondylitis [AS]. I was initially put on Remicade for the severity of my AS, not my Crohn's. Remicade worked great on reducing the inflammation brought on by AS. It also put my CD in remission. After 2.5 years on Remicade I switched to Humira because the Remicade was losing its effectiveness.

While on these two biologics, my osteoarthritis has only progressed. I have quite deformed fingers from the osteoarthritis. They have become more deformed and three of the DIP joints have totally fused. I cannot bent the ends of three fingers. I also have OA in my back, hips and shoulders. These are less problematic for me than my hands, but I still have the problems I had before going on biologics.

The biologics do help reduce inflammation and in theory should help with inflammation caused by OA. I think part of my problem is that I generally feel so much better when on a biologic, that I tend to be much more active, thereby over using my arthritic joints. I suspect that your GI won't be too keen on switching you because of OA.

My concern is that perhaps you have something else going on besides OA. If the arthritis pain greatly increases after your Humira injection, I think it reasonable for your doctor to test to see if you are developing antibodies or if you have developed a lupus-like syndrome from the Humira. Also, about 30-35% of people with CD develop spondyloarthropathy [SpA]. SpA can cause significant joint pain. I'm glad that you are going to a new rheumy. A rheumy is the best type of doc to evaluate the cause of your joint problems.
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ERANJO
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   Posted 10/23/2009 10:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you soo much for the replies.  I do have other issues other than the osteoarthritis all over, I recently had an MRI, & CT scan, which shows, cervical kyposis, a mid compression fracture & a herniated disc in my thoracic section, and bulging disc and lumber spondylosis. 
 
Well, I follow up with my GI on Monday, then a pain mgt doc and new rhuemy the following week....hopefully one of them can figure something out to help me with all this pain.
I will keep you updated...thanks again
Kelly
 

ZenaWP
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   Posted 10/23/2009 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   
I wasn't having as much of a problem with the arthritis when I was on Remicade, so I can't tell you personally between the two, but my rheumy said she is seeing the most results for her arthritis patients on Remicade, followed by Enbrel (which unfortunately doesn't help the Crohn's).  I can tell you, though, that I just switched back to Cimzia since the Humira wasn't helping the arthritis much and can tell a huge difference after a month. 

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