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moedon1
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   Posted 10/24/2009 4:24 AM (GMT -7)   
I've been on TNF drugs and prednisone for the past 5 years.  I am mostly homebound but I do occaisionally see my neice and nephew.  I spent a good deal of time with my neice yesterday and found out that she had four different shots that morning.  She is 13 months.  I have been told several times to avoid kids who have been vaccinated.  I recently was hospitalized with necrotic pneumonia and haven't fully recovered.  Should I be concerned?  I can't for the life of me remember which vaccines would be the worst for me to come in contact with.  It seems I go from one infection to the next.(typical for immune suppressed individuals).  I am also injecting 1 x weekly with  Humira.  Any info would be appreciated.
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   Posted 10/24/2009 9:25 AM (GMT -7)   
I have not really heard alot about avioding vaccinated children, other then the flu mist and others that cause a temp mild active infection. So if you are feeling ill then find out what the shots were for.
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   Posted 10/24/2009 10:54 AM (GMT -7)   
That's a great question for a doctor, I'd hate to speculate.
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   Posted 10/24/2009 11:01 AM (GMT -7)   
I agree.
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   Posted 10/24/2009 11:11 AM (GMT -7)   
I have never heard...that..since most vaccines..are not live..except maybe some kids get the nasal flu one..vaccines...help to prevent you from getting serious illness...i think you should get the pneumonia vaccine...i did and i am on Remicade and i got the flu shot as well...

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   Posted 10/24/2009 11:51 AM (GMT -7)   
I've never heard that... and have been in close contact with plenty of kids that came straight from the doctor and got some vaccinations.

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   Posted 10/24/2009 12:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Measles / Mumps / Rubella is a live vaccine... at least it is here.

I go by the advice that was given to my mother after bone marrow transplant and chemo: no contact with children who have been given live vaccines.

The doctors have never been able to tell me for certain whether those of us on anti-TNF meds can take a more relaxed approach than that.
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moedon1
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   Posted 10/25/2009 4:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the input. I will check with the doctor to be certain. I have had the pneumonia shot(two years ago after my first bought with pneu. I have had the flu shot as well. Waiting on the H1N1 until it becomes avaiilable(no Mist). Yes MMR are all live vaccines here. I have spoken with a couple of other friends who have similar issues and the general theory is to avoid contact with bodily waste(diapers runny noses etc and wash hands often) .

Thanks again,
Donna
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 Formal diagnosis 3/2006, IBS 1992, Degenerative Arthritis Facet block and RFA, Seizure Disorder, Severe Carpal Tunnel both hands, SVT arrythmia, 2004 cardiac Ablation
Cushings Syndrome(thanks Prednisone), Asthma, Multiple Laps for ovarian adhesion to bowel, C/5 & 6 disc herniation - plate with screws, resistant to anethesia/most pain meds.  Chronic fungal infections.
Multitude of Meds. Have tried most Crohn's meds.  Gall bladder removal and Intestinal Lap. June 08.- Intestinal blockage July 08 moved on from on Humira..now on Cimzia. .Off the Cimzia 7/8/09.  Back on Humira.  Systemic fungal infection.  Waiting on Liver Biopsy & Hepatitis results.


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   Posted 10/25/2009 6:56 PM (GMT -7)   
That is around the time they give the chicken pox vaccine which is a live one. Usually only have to watch for the live ones. The other live one is rotovirus but it is usually given much earlier than 13 months.

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   Posted 10/25/2009 6:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh, didn't think about MMR. That's usually given between a year and 15 months too. At least in my ped's practice. I would find out what ones they had then call your doc to see what they think.

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   Posted 10/26/2009 12:54 AM (GMT -7)   
when i was heavy into imuran, remicade and prednisone i was warned about getting live vacines myself but never others, also to avoid kids with chicken pox or any other weeping sores. personally i like to avoid ALL children. if i had my own i would make them live in the yard in a tent.
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   Posted 10/26/2009 6:01 AM (GMT -7)   
moedon1 said...
I have been told several times to avoid kids who have been vaccinated. 

Whoever told you this is exactly right!  Check out this link.  It's from the CDC, so I knew it would be okay to post... 
 
 
While the page is specifically about the smallpox vaccine, there are general statements about live virus vaccines.  The first 5 bullets under "What is a "live virus" vaccine?" are especially pertinent.  It also says "Other live virus vaccines used include measles, mumps, rubella, and chickenpox."  Notice the use of the words "usually", "sometimes", "for most people".
 
Finally, I believe most of the last paragraph is pertinent for any live virus vaccine. 
 

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   Posted 10/26/2009 8:07 AM (GMT -7)   
EMom said...

Whoever told you this is exactly right!  Check out this link.  It's from the CDC, so I knew it would be okay to post... 
 
 
While the page is specifically about the smallpox vaccine, there are general statements about live virus vaccines.  The first 5 bullets under "What is a "live virus" vaccine?" are especially pertinent.  It also says "Other live virus vaccines used include measles, mumps, rubella, and chickenpox."  Notice the use of the words "usually", "sometimes", "for most people".
 
Finally, I believe most of the last paragraph is pertinent for any live virus vaccine. 
 

I couldn't disagree more.  I don't think we should be posting links to one website that talks about one specific thing and then generalizing it to include other things.  The prudent thing here is to ask a doctor, preferably an infectious disease specialist, not post links and speculate about micro-biology.
 
The last paragraph talks about the smallpox vaccine and only smallpox vaccine.  I can find no reference to all live vaccines in that paragraph.  Perhaps if you find a reputable website that says you shouldn't vaccinate a child for MMR who's mother has eczema I'll reconsider - but my first point still stands.


33 y/o male. Dx'ed in 1999. No surgeries.

Current meds: Humira 2/27/09. Proferrin iron pills.

Tried SCD, didn't work, now avoiding gluten and dairy.


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Post Edited (Rider Fan) : 10/26/2009 9:37:12 AM (GMT-6)


EMom
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   Posted 10/26/2009 12:11 PM (GMT -7)   
The first part of the link entitled "What is a live virus vaccine" very clearly applies to ALL live virus vaccines.

As for my last comment about the last paragraph, I did use the words "I believe". Specifically I was thinking of the part discussing those most likely to have side effects being people with "weakened immune systems, such as those who have received a transplant, are HIV positive, or are receiving treatment for cancer. Anyone who falls within these categories, or lives with someone who falls into one of these categories". Granted, they are referring specifically to the smallpox vaccine, but these are the same recommendations (for specific groups of people) you hear for any live vaccine. It was only out of concern for those here with weakened immune systems that I thought it was pertinent. I agree there are other parts of the paragraph which do not apply.... it was early...I was on my first cup of coffee....

I'm done. The moderators can feel free to remove the link if they feel it's inappropriate.
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