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JavaJay
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   Posted 11/2/2009 12:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Simple question - Does anyone have a problem with a Fatty Liver on CD.  I have had one for about a year or two now and I am wondering if this is just another symptom from CD or something new.
Crohn's Disease since '88
 


Zanne
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   Posted 11/2/2009 12:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Yup, I've got one. No one has ever been able to tell me exactly why I have it and it hasn't really caused any problems yet. Its been that way for years, so I'm not going to start worrying about it until it causes an issue.
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


randynoguts
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   Posted 11/2/2009 10:46 PM (GMT -7)   
yep.. real fatty.. just reconfirmed with my CT scan last friday. has been for 15-20 years
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Keeper
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   Posted 11/2/2009 10:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Wikipedia seems to think that it can be caused by IBD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_liver

Sniper
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   Posted 11/3/2009 7:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Had one but for some reason it is no longer. I dont know why it got better. Diet has not changed much. Maybe the meds...
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Toodles
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   Posted 11/3/2009 7:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Me too. My doctors assume it's from me being overweight.

ZenaWP
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   Posted 11/3/2009 12:26 PM (GMT -7)   
They mentioned it to me when my liver enzymes were high for a long time, which is funny because I am 5'11'' and weigh 150 lbs (and have been down to 120 lbs).  They have always assumed it was my meds.  So, I don't know if mine is really fatty or they just don't know what else to call it or how to explain it.  

Crohn's Disease, Acid Reflux/Gastritis, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Endometriosis, Arthritis, Depression/Anxiety.  Too many meds to list them all.  =) 


heatmiser
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   Posted 11/5/2009 9:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, they picked up on it when I was having an abdominal ultrasound. Doc told me to go on low fat diet. I am overweight and really should try to but I thought there was some connection with cd too.
Dxd CD in 2003. Scope Aug/09 shows UC.
Meds: Colazal, prednisone, vancomycyn, prilosec, darvocet, bentyl
Currently in bad flare-up


Becoming undone
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   Posted 11/6/2009 3:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I had an enlarged liver via CT...alas mine was found to be a complication of IBD...namely, PSC (Primary Sclerosis Cholangitis)...they also noted high liver enzymes too...They did an ERCP and found it and opened up the bile ducts too...it is one thing to look for though...I know it is kinda rare (really rare), but I also wonder if it is not diagnosed as much...in a land full of horses, we are the zebras, and yet sometimes the docs are still looking at us like horses...
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redone
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   Posted 11/9/2009 8:37 AM (GMT -7)   
I was diagnosed with a fatty liver (sounds so gross) after having blood tests show high liver enzymes. I am about 20lbs overweight. My GI said I should try to loose a little bit of weight, but nothing else was really said about it other than sometimes when a flareup starts it can elevate the enzymes. I was in remission for 3 years until about 7 months ago, blood tests were 9 months ago...weirdness.
37 y/o female.
Diagnosed in 2001
Current meds: Entocort, Vitamin D & Calcium
Starting Remicade on November 23, 2009


Zanne
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   Posted 11/9/2009 8:49 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm not sure that being over weight is a factor for me. I'm a size 4 which puts me on the smaller size for the average American woman. I don't really think I would be considered fat in any sense. I have had a fatty liver for years and I was heavier before, but my liver hasn't change with the weight change. So for all those whose doctors told you to lose weight, I'm not so sure it would make any difference.
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


Keeper
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   Posted 11/9/2009 3:24 PM (GMT -7)   
There may be a connection between overweight, high blood levels of saturated fat and fatty liver. It seems that overweight can cause high blood levels of saturated fat which causes chronic inflammation (see: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091103121603.htm.

The high blood lipid levels would affect the liver, depositing fat there. Crohn's seems to be characterized by fatty deposits in the gut and these deposits are both inflammatory and promote fatty liver. There is some question about whether this mesenteric fat causes Crohn's or is a result of Crohn's - likely it is a bit of both. These deposits are not the usual fat, but are wrapped around the gut and penetrate it. In cases that have required resection, 100% of the patients have shown this fat wrapping and the extent of the fat co-related with the degree of inflammation. For more, see: http://www.practicalgastro.com/pdf/June06/ArsenescuArticle.pdf

Anthocyanins are know to help reduce inflammation associated with fat deposits, but it is not established if they would help fatty Crohn's deposits. For more, see: http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/jmf.2008.0270
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