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journey2health
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   Posted 11/4/2009 12:38 AM (GMT -7)   
How much yogurt do you recommend I should eat daily for effectiveness as a probiotic?
Ellen

Mild to moderate Pancolitis
20 mg prednisone (second time tapering)
400 mg Asacol 4 times a day
Diagnosed Sept. 15, 2009 after 7 weeks misdiagnosis of C-DIFF, hospitalizations, many ER visits.
Eliminated red meat, dairy, spicy, alcohol, caffeine, fresh fruit and vegetables, low sugar, very low fat, no residue foods.
Taking insoluble fiber, calcium, fish oil


FunGuy
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   Posted 11/4/2009 12:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Since you have eliminated dairy from your diet, would it make more sense to get your probiotic in a pill form????
I use FD&C Blue dye number 1 and it really seems to help me.  There is SCIENCE behind this.  Just ask me and I will explain it to you.  U/C and Crohn's for 34 years.  Blue dye for one month and I am feeling pretty good!  I am so excited by this but I need others to try it with their doctor's permission.  Simple food coloring!!  BLUE1.  
I can't make money on this, it's already in your kitchen.  I just want to help, especially the youngsters.
I do 2 drops in 6 ounces of water when I get up, 2 or 3 drops in 16 or 20 ounces of water that I sip all day and then 2 drops in 6 ounces of water at bedtime.   Max of 7 drops a day.


journey2health
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   Posted 11/4/2009 12:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, I was thinking about that. thanks for noticing. what about soy yoghurt?
Ellen

Mild to moderate Pancolitis
20 mg prednisone (second time tapering)
400 mg Asacol 4 times a day
Diagnosed Sept. 15, 2009 after 7 weeks misdiagnosis of C-DIFF, hospitalizations, many ER visits.
Eliminated red meat, dairy, spicy, alcohol, caffeine, fresh fruit and vegetables, low sugar, very low fat, no residue foods.
Taking insoluble fiber, calcium, fish oil


FunGuy
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   Posted 11/4/2009 1:06 AM (GMT -7)   
I have recently discovered that tofu really doesn't agree with me. Perhaps some others on the forum have experience with soy yogurt? I take PB8 and I eat dairy yogurt. I am not "religious" about either but I try to get a few eaten/swallowed each week. Sometimes makes me gassy to the point of discomfort. I think the PB8 more than the yougurt so I don't take too much.
I use FD&C Blue dye number 1 and it really seems to help me.  There is SCIENCE behind this.  Just ask me and I will explain it to you.  U/C and Crohn's for 34 years.  Blue dye for one month and I am feeling pretty good!  I am so excited by this but I need others to try it with their doctor's permission.  Simple food coloring!!  BLUE1.  
I can't make money on this, it's already in your kitchen.  I just want to help, especially the youngsters.
I do 2 drops in 6 ounces of water when I get up, 2 or 3 drops in 16 or 20 ounces of water that I sip all day and then 2 drops in 6 ounces of water at bedtime.   Max of 7 drops a day.


Nanners
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   Posted 11/4/2009 7:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Soy really bothers me alot, and I have heard others have the same issue with it. I would recommend you try getting your probiotics in pill form. I take Primadolphilus Reuteri by Natures Way and it works great for me. Hope that helps.
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Crohn's Disease for over 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium  w/Vit D, and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
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Sofee
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   Posted 11/4/2009 3:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, as many others like us, i too have a hard time with yogurt. I sometimes TRY to eat it but I can never seem to finish it.
3 spoonfuls and that's it! I'm done!

I recommend:
a pill form - which is what I take [ New Roots Herbal, Acidophilus Ultra ]
or making smoothies with yogurt in them. Yum Yum!

Happy Eating! Enjoy! Hope this helps!
 
Sofee
praying for a good night's sleep and a happy bottom!! :o]
1998: Colitis - removal of colon, temp. ostomy 10 mths.
2000-07: disease free & doing well with j pouch.
2007-09: rectal pain & discomfort, loss of bowl control. diagnosed with Crohns March '09 currently on: Emtec, Azathioprine [Imarun] & Remicade. Med History: steroids, predizone, cipro, loperamide [imodium], gravol, previcid, cholestramine, xylocaine jelly, zinc oxide creme, etc.
 


chin up
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   Posted 11/4/2009 8:27 PM (GMT -7)   
My GI recommended Activia every day and I really noticed a difference. He says there is enough probiotics in one container and more effective than pill form.

CD for 25yrs. Includes 5 bowel resections with perm. ileostomy, iron infusions, many fistulas and luckily more good days than bad.  
 


WriterMum
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   Posted 11/5/2009 11:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Soy, and things like it, produce gas which is hard on a Crohn's system. I have been told to avoid soy.

It is the lactose that is a problem in dairy products and if you get a yogurt with bacterial cultures the lactose is mostly gone - the bacteria eat it. My GI says that a minimum of 4 tablespoons a day of yogurt is good. There is not enough research yet on how many bacteria are enough or too much. The thing is to feel out your system. If the yogurt is giving you diarrhea then it is best to avoid it, however it does take time to regulate the bacteria in your system. The pills are obviously easy and people on this forum have given great advice on the kinds they like. I have heard that Activia yogurt upsets some people, despite its advertising.
44 years old. Diagnosed with moderate to severe Crohn's in April 2005. Hiatus hernia diagnosed in 2008. Had Crohn's under control until March this year when I had a major flare up and ended up in hospital. Diagnosis is now CD and IBS. Getting it under control again.
Currently taking: Salofalk 2000 mg, Calcium and Vitamin D, Matamucil, Yogurt for probiotics, Salofalk suppositories as needed.


sickandlucky
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   Posted 11/5/2009 11:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Have you tried coconut milk yogurt? It's really tasty. I also like Activia (taken with lactaid!).
19 y/o female, diagnosed crohns december 2008
currently taking 500 mg pentasa 4x daily


journey2health
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   Posted 11/5/2009 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   
You know I think I got diarrhea from the soy yogurt, which I mixed with honey and some frozen fruit dethawed and think i ate too much of... will cut back on that...
Ellen

Mild to moderate Pancolitis
20 mg prednisone (second time tapering), Restoril
400 mg Asacol 2 times a day
Probiotic Align,
Diagnosed Sept. 15, 2009 after 7 weeks misdiagnosis of C-DIFF, hospitalizations, many ER visits.
Eliminated red meat, dairy, spicy, alcohol, caffeine, fresh fruit and vegetables, low sugar, very low fat, no residue foods.
Taking soluble Heather's Tummy fiber, calcium, fish oil


pb4
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   Posted 11/5/2009 11:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Here's a link on Activia...
 
 
Different yogurts and different probiotic supplements (pill, pearl or powder form) will have different amounts of live cultures, the one I take now has 10 billion and it's suggested for IBDers and IBSers not to use less than 10 billion live cultures (I don't think the yogurt has that much in it) but there is a probiotic drink called danactive that claims to have 10 billion L Casie Immunitas which is the stain that can make it past the gut acid and help maintain a healthy gut flora.  DanActive is also made by Activia (same maker for each).  I believe there was also a lawsuit brought against them for their claims, you could google to find that info.
 
I do well taking the ProBio TX-11 from Sangsters (I'm in Canada) Health Food Store, it contains 10 billion active cells and it includes L casie...along with many others.
 
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bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
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Keeper
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   Posted 11/5/2009 12:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Commercial yogurt is considered to have too much unaltered lactose which can cause problems for some people. I like sickandlucky's idea of taking lactaid with their yogurt. That might just take care of the left-over lactose.
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