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73monte
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   Posted 11/20/2009 3:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone seen this movie? I just saw it yesterday. I highly encourage everyone here to view this. It's a real eyeopener to say the least.
It makes you wonder about the ongoing argument of where the spike in autoimmune diseases is coming from. After seeing this, it certainly tilts my opinion toward the foods we eat.
 
Tom.  
My daughter was diagnosed Feb. 19/07, (13 yrs. old at time of diagnosis), with Crohn's of the Terminal Illium. Has used Prednisone and Pentasa. Started Imuran (02/09), had an abdominal abscess (12/08). 2cm of Stricture.


Zanne
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   Posted 11/20/2009 6:50 AM (GMT -7)   
I have not seen this movie, but I am assuming from your post that the main gist of things is how processed food is, how many additives, all the chemicals....

The cause/trigger for crohn's has been hotly debated here and in the world in general. I'm not sure when or if we will ever get to the real root of the problem.

But I do have to say that I ate very little in the way of processed food in my pre-crohn's life. My Mom did not use packaged food for anything. Everything was from scratch including our bread. We didn't eat in fast food restaurants. Basically, our diet was more farm like than Boston suburb. My Grandfather had a huge garden, we canned the vegetables for the winter. He had fruit trees, and we canned fruit. I don't think my mother ever bought a cake mix or brownie mix. If I got a Twinkie at a friends house, I thought I had died and gone to heaven. I still cook the way my mother did, except for the bread (most of the time, sometimes I make my own). But, I do believe that as hard as we try, we have chemicals in our food and environment that have triggered something in our immune system. I also believe that is just one part of the puzzle. I think for some of us, like me, heredity plays a role. I am the 2nd confirmed generation with this DD, most likely the 3rd generation, and both of my daughters have shown the same type of signs I did as a child. Its just a more complex issue than saying, its the food we eat, period.
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


Nanners
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   Posted 11/20/2009 7:27 AM (GMT -7)   
I ate like Zanne did when I was a child. There too many of us to go out to eat (5 kids). My Mom made all our food from scratch too. Now my Mom was from the south, so we did eat alot of southern cooking. I didn't start eating the fast food stuff until I was much older and out of the house, but I already had Crohns by then. Hmmm.....
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   Posted 11/20/2009 8:14 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm from the south too and mom did all her cooking from scratch. Only additive was what we could scratch up. The old ,too clean theory dont hunt either as I played in the dirt most every day. Dirt poor is what we call it. I had a pet dog made of dirt and I fed him dirt and even had him fetch a dirt stick . My only toy was dirt. I made dirt boats and dirt trains and little dirt houses. Rain was like a present, because then we had mud and mud was much easier to mold than dirt. I could build a little mud army of little mud men . We had mud fights , mud hens, mud puppies , mud pies and mud between our toes . Not just me but the politicians too. They call it mud slinging and winning by a mud slide. Some even said that others name was mud.
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73monte
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   Posted 11/20/2009 9:31 AM (GMT -7)   
I certainly understand your opinions on this, but that debate aside, I still would highly encourage everyone to check this Documentary out anyway. It's not just a stay away from processed foods thing. In fact, after seeing this, you'll be left wondering what you can eat. It's also not a bunch of fear mongering. Again, give it a look, at the very least, and eyeopener. 
 
Tom.
My daughter was diagnosed Feb. 19/07, (13 yrs. old at time of diagnosis), with Crohn's of the Terminal Illium. Has used Prednisone and Pentasa. Started Imuran (02/09), had an abdominal abscess (12/08). 2cm of Stricture.


dreamer06
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   Posted 11/20/2009 9:43 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't think it has to do with what we ate. I think it has to do with what society has eaten over time and how that has evolved peoples immune systems. I admit that I ate processed foods my entire life and still do although I would really like to start eating non processed foods. But I do believe the way we have eaten and what we have eaten over time has had an influence on crohns. It is more prevalent in modern societies than in developing countries.
Diagnosed with Crohns Oct. '07.  Have had 9 abcess/ fistula surgeries.  Colostomy 20 March 2009.
 
Current Meds:
Imuran 200 mg                            Omeprazole 20mg                     Vitamin D 2000 i.u.          Remicade 10mg x8wks
Synthroid 112mg                          Lexapro 20mg                           Tylenol  50mg
Birth Control                                 Calcium  500mg                         Morphine 40mg
Sucralfate 1gm x4                         Multi Vit                                     Cyclizine   50mg
 


pb4
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   Posted 11/20/2009 11:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Smoking is one KNOWN trigger for crohn's (not to say it's everyone's trigger either) including second-hand smoke...diet/food has not been ruled out, it's been researched and so far apparently things like processed foods/beverages, fast-foods, animal fats and caffeine are all linked to exacerbating symptoms (so I see no reason why they couldn't be triggers as well) same with refined sugar and artificial sweeteners and for some women the birth control pill...there is definitely a connection with how our immune systems recognize and defend against harmless bacteria and researchers say this probably contributes to the development of IBD as well. We all know sugar feeds bacteria and it has been noted that most IBDers do tend to have (or had) a diet higher in junky foods and refined sugar and not near enough fibre so research definitely is on the right path.

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CrazyHarry
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   Posted 11/22/2009 4:56 PM (GMT -7)   
unless i'm mistaken, the whole point of the post was what zanne originally stated - about how processed our food is, not the digression of food triggering crohn's or any other auto immune disease. that is an entirely different topic and i do not believe the intended subject of this thread (but i could be wrong - i have been fooled before...).

i thought food inc was a good movie, very well done and best for those who have no idea of what is really going on with the food chain and big agribusiness. it was a quick expose of big agribusiness and the control they exert over the food chain and yes, even government (the USDA is toothless with the laws big agribusiness has been able to get passed). it is surprising and unnerving that a handful of companies at best control virtually all of our food. even seeds are patented now, by chemical companies no less.

recommended follow up reading to the movie, since it only gives you the skinny, is as follows:

good carbs bad carbs by gary taubes

food politics by marion nestle

what to eat by marion nestle

the omnivores dilemna by michael pollan

in defense of food by michael pollan
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


Former58D
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   Posted 11/22/2009 5:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Concur with CrazyHarry. Read those books. Gary Taubes' book, while a little on the dry side due to all the cited studies, is extremely compelling.
"What can't be changed must be endured" - unknown

DX with distal Crohn's colitis Oct 2007, predominantly in rectum
Colozal (750mg): 3 pills 3xdaily
Cortifoam - 1 nightly
6MP - currently at 100mg and waiting for response......

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