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Nanners
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   Posted 12/4/2009 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
What is in these things?  One of the vendors brought in some bagels, and I knew not to eat them, but of course I couldn't resist.  I only ate 1/2 of one and within 30-40 minutes I got cramps and had to run to the bathroom. 
 
I can eat bread no problem, margarine no problem.  So what the heck is in a plain bagel that gets to me everytime?  Anybody else have problems with them?
 
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Gail*Nanners*
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Crohn's Disease for over 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium  w/Vit D, and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
It's scary when you start making the same noises As your coffee maker.
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xraygrrl
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   Posted 12/4/2009 12:04 PM (GMT -6)   
That's weird, Nanners, that same thing just happened to me. I had been eating pumpkin bagels during the fall with no problems but last weekend I had a plain bagel & felt like I had been stabbed in the gut.

JavaJay
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   Posted 12/4/2009 12:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Are they a homemade style bagel or more like the Thomases Bagels. Normally a bagel is just flour, water, and salt. If it is the Thomases type, then you got who knows what in them.
36 yr old Male with Crohn's Disease since '88 - No Surgery yet
 
Been on almost every type of drug with bad results
Remicade since Nov 2009


Nanners
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   Posted 12/4/2009 12:19 PM (GMT -6)   
They were made from a local Einsteins Bagel's. I thought they were just simply made things like jay said, water, flour & salt. They sure sound harmless enough, but hits me hard everytime I eat one. Oh well!
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease and Anxiety/Panic Forum
Crohn's Disease for over 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium  w/Vit D, and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
It's scary when you start making the same noises As your coffee maker.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

fruitgirl
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   Posted 12/4/2009 12:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't get diarrhea or anything, but after I eat one, I feel really full and bloated. I still eat them on occasion, though!
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JavaJay
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   Posted 12/4/2009 1:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Ask them for an ingrediant list. 

36 yr old Male with Crohn's Disease since '88 - No Surgery yet
 
Been on almost every type of drug with bad results
Remicade since Nov 2009


Nanners
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   Posted 12/4/2009 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
It doesn't really matter from where they are made, all the plain bagels, no matter where I got it hits me the same.
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease and Anxiety/Panic Forum
Crohn's Disease for over 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium  w/Vit D, and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
It's scary when you start making the same noises As your coffee maker.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

JavaJay
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   Posted 12/4/2009 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Could be the wheat then.  You know how CD and gluten don't go together :)  Food is very weird.  I am lactos intolerant.  If I drank a glass of regular milk I will spend all day in the bathroom.  I can eat cream cheese, ice cream, etc with no problems though. 
36 yr old Male with Crohn's Disease since '88 - No Surgery yet
 
Been on almost every type of drug with bad results
Remicade since Nov 2009


flowery
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   Posted 12/4/2009 2:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh....!!!!!  the taste of a warm bagel...sigh! crispy on the outside soft and chewy on the inside! I dream of these things more than pie and cake....lol !!
Well, I believe there are egg in bagels. Maybe egg allergy? Also they are loaded, I mean loaded carbs! Which turns into our friend SUGAR... and according to the nutritionist this makes for "surgar dumps" ...ya know, the large mound in the toilet!!!lol...
Sometimes you just can't resist! I hope Santa puts bagels in my stocking this year! The no D ones... I know I'm dreaming..
Flowery
 "Get busy living or get busy dying"
Dx in 2005 after a Hysterectomy. Re-section in 2006...came apart so got to do it again! Frequent Kidney stones and Shingles... a new present as of 08-09 Diabetes Type 2. Total of 12 surgerys.
Imran, Asacol, Colestid, Bentyl, Lamotil, Paxil, Nexium, Probiodicts, Vit D, Folic Acid, Lots of Potassium, Fish Oil, up to 6 Immodium a day. Oh, and one Giant Pill holder!
 
 
               
                        


JavaJay
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   Posted 12/4/2009 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
The only egg in a bagel would be in an egg bagel

36 yr old Male with Crohn's Disease since '88 - No Surgery yet
 
Been on almost every type of drug with bad results
Remicade since Nov 2009


pimfram
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   Posted 12/4/2009 2:19 PM (GMT -6)   
At my previous job we had Bagel Wednesday (Bruegger's has them cheap that day) and they never bothered me much, unless I was already having issues.
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Zanne
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   Posted 12/4/2009 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   
It could be the type of yeast they use. Just a thought. Also bagels are simmered in water before they are baked so maybe they put something in the water? I love bagels, can't say that I've ever noticed that they bother me. I used to make homemade ones and now I may have to make a batch.......
Suzanne

CD 20 years officially, 30 unofficially. 3 resections '93, '95 '97
Managing with strict low residue diet, keeping symptoms to a minimum. All test show small amount of ulceration, still have occasional blockages. But still have a great time with my 2 daughters and husband!


Prednisone, 6MP,Prevacid, B12 shots, Bentyl, Xifaxan.....


Nanners
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   Posted 12/4/2009 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Well when you are eating a "free" bagel who am I to say where they buy them. I just think it must be in something in the way the make them. I will just be a good girl and say no from now on. Its not like it gave me probs all day, just that one time about 30 min later.

I am not gluten intolerant so I am sure thats not it either.

Thanks!
Gail*Nanners* Co-Moderator for Crohns Disease and Anxiety/Panic Forum
Crohn's Disease for over 33 years. Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, Calcium  w/Vit D, and Xanax as needed. Resections in 2002 and 2005. Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, and Anxiety. Currently my Crohns is in remission, but my joints are going crazy!
It's scary when you start making the same noises As your coffee maker.
*Every tomorrow has two handles.  We can take hold of it by the handle of anxiety, or by the handle of faith"*

inflamed
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   Posted 12/4/2009 2:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, no. Plain bagels have been about the only thing I could eat this past week. Weird how different we all can be.
Mom to a healthy Pentasa baby and pregnant with #2. 5+ years remission, woo hoo!


LMills
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   Posted 12/4/2009 2:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't have any problems with bagels...I have problems when my fiance puts cream cheese on it, and I can't resist.
Diagnosed with Crohn's in May of 2008.
Currently taking: Prednisone, pentasa, omeprazole, and humira. Using probiotics and a multivitamin.
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pb4
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   Posted 12/4/2009 3:19 PM (GMT -6)   
There is yeast in bagles (all bagles) and sugar is also in many bagle recipies.

:)

Judy2
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   Posted 12/4/2009 3:25 PM (GMT -6)   
A table with nutritional information and (page down) ingredients for all Einstein's products:


http://www.einsteinbros.com/pdf/nutrition_info.pdf

ski bum
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   Posted 12/4/2009 4:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Every Sunday I work out in the morning and then head straight to Detroit Bagel to get hot, soft and chewy on inside-crispy on outside (good description flowery) delicious bagels. I eat at least one with cream cheese and pay the price after, but on a risk/benefit analysis, I'll opt for a Sunday morning bagel every time!
50 y/o F. CD dx'd Aug 05. Initially on Pentasa, then Imuran 125 mg. Started Humira (very reluctantly) on 10/24/07. Ileocolectomy 4/08. Back on Pentasa as maintenance.


BWS27
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   Posted 12/4/2009 10:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Nanners~

I FEEL YA THERE!! I can not tolerate bagels either, it is sad! My wife and I use to frequent this local bagel shop with the BEST homemade bagels in the area. It is sad, I wish I could eat them without the pain. We now get our orders to go and head home for me to enjoy the goodness!
29 year old husband and father of 2, Diagnosed with Crohns and resection surgery in Jan '09 (same ER trip), currently not winning the battle with pain, taking: 6mpPentasa, Prednisone and every vitamin possible! 
 
 

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson



Sniper
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   Posted 12/4/2009 11:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I dont understand how they can turn your stomach. They are always so cute, especially the puppies. Little tails in the air and cold nose's. Chasing rabbits or flying a Sopwith Camel like, Snoopy. By the way Nanners , do you know the best description of a puppy ??? Nose at one end, tail at the other and both ends smell....Oh,,sorry, I forgot you dont have a southern accent...never mind....
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FunGuy
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   Posted 12/4/2009 11:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Sheeze Beagles Bagles. It's the cream cheese that gets me. Plain bagle is easy on me.
I use FD&C Blue dye number 1 and it really seems to help me.  There is SCIENCE behind this.  Just ask me and I will explain it to you.  U/C and Crohn's for 34 years.  Blue dye for one month and I am feeling pretty good!  I am so excited by this but I need others to try it with their doctor's permission.  Simple food coloring!!  BLUE1.  
I can't make money on this, it's already in your kitchen.  I just want to help.
I do 2 drops in 6 ounces of water when I get up, 2 or 3 drops in 16 or 20 ounces of water that I sip all day and then 2 drops in 6 ounces of water at bedtime.   Max of 7 drops a day.  Give it about ten days.  I am NOT a healthcare professional.   Ask your doctor if this is safe for you. 


sickandlucky
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   Posted 12/5/2009 7:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Montreal style bagels don't hurt me, but the bigger ones that most places have do. I'm not sure why! But I do love a good montreal bagel... mmm
female 19, diagnosed crohns december 2008
erythema nodosum
currently taking 40mg prednisone, then imuran or remicade when i taper
feeling scare about side effects but will be happy to feel better :)


JavaJay
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   Posted 12/5/2009 7:37 AM (GMT -6)   
sickandlucky said...
Montreal style bagels don't hurt me, but the bigger ones that most places have do. I'm not sure why! But I do love a good montreal bagel... mmm


Ok, have to ask...what is a Montreal bagel. And don't tell me a bagel from Montreal :) What makes it different from a NY bagel
36 yr old Male with Crohn's Disease since '88 - No Surgery yet
 
Been on almost every type of drug with bad results
Remicade since Nov 2009


sickandlucky
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   Posted 12/5/2009 7:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I've never had a NY bagel! But montreal bagels are very thin and dense... and especially delicious!

Ok this is from Wikipedia:

In contrast to the New York-style bagel, the Montreal bagel is smaller, sweeter and denser, with a larger hole, and is always baked in a wood-fired oven. It contains malt, egg, and no salt and is boiled in honey-sweetened water before being baked in a wood-fired oven, whose irregular flames give it a dappled light-and-dark surface colour.
female 19, diagnosed crohns december 2008
erythema nodosum
currently taking 40mg prednisone, then imuran or remicade when i taper
feeling scare about side effects but will be happy to feel better :)


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 12/5/2009 8:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Do you think it might be a consitancy issue?
I feel like bagels are denser then normal bread?
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