Staying awake without caffeine

New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> ]

LMills
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 1753
   Posted 12/7/2009 4:49 PM (GMT -7)   
For the next couple of days I have to work on paper projects as well as review what I've learned over the whole semester. I'm sitting here with two pages left, and all I want to do is sleep! Two measly little pages!! After that, it's a matter of making it through two finals, and then I can finally rest.

What do you guys do when you need that extra something to stay awake? I'm at a loss here because I cannot, under any circumstances, have caffeine...not just because of the Crohn's, but also because of the Interstitial Cystitis...I can't afford to be in the bathroom all night if I can actually help it.

I'm so tired cry cry cry

I've been dealing with extreme exhaustion all semester, but I'm almost at the end of my rope. I hate not being able to stay awake, and I mean actually fully aware and up, for more than 6-8 hours. There has to be something that can help!!
Diagnosed with Crohn's in May of 2008.
Currently taking: Prednisone, pentasa, omeprazole, and humira. Using probiotics and a multivitamin.
bonniegriffith.blogspot.com/
Learning how to live again.
"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


snohare
Veteran Member


Date Joined Oct 2004
Total Posts : 2088
   Posted 12/7/2009 5:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Eat carbohydrates. Eating pure/high carbohydrate snacks has been shown to have an interruptive effect on diurnal rhythms.
That's quite recent research, but for years I used to use cereal or sandwich snacks to keep myself awake all night, without any caffeine at all. I was studying, albeit informally, and it certainly never had a negative effect on my recall - quite the opposite.
nono Be warned though - add the protein tryptophan - to the carbohydrates, and you will instantly get sleepy, as this will cause a spike in serotonin levels in the brain, triggering the need for sleep. So no meat or milky drinks.
idea Personally I would allow myself "micro-naps" - tiny snoozes of as little as ten minutes - they will add enormously to your efficiency while awake. eyes But of course the problem is making sure you wake up.
Are you taking B12 ? As it catalyses stress reactions within the body ( in conjunction with other B complex vitamins) your body will be demanding far more of it, and you might well find that taking a B12 or general B complex supplement will help fight fatigue. (Best taken after food and a glass of water.)
Best of luck with the exams ! yeah

LMills
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 1753
   Posted 12/7/2009 5:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for the advice!! I normally have cheese and crackers for dinner anyway so hopefully I'll notice a difference now that I'm actually thinking about it :)

As for micronaps...absolutely not hah...I try so hard to stay within the time limit, but I'm so bad about losing self control after just waking up so I'll end up sleeping for three hours. I wish I had your willpower!

Concerning B12, I have to admit I have been slacking off in taking my vitamins. I really need to get back into that habit. I used to be so good about taking everything I needed, keep a well-balanced diet, and taking everything on time.

Oh, how lazy I've become :) This will have to change.
Diagnosed with Crohn's in May of 2008.
Currently taking: Prednisone, pentasa, omeprazole, and humira. Using probiotics and a multivitamin.
bonniegriffith.blogspot.com/
Learning how to live again.
"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


snohare
Veteran Member


Date Joined Oct 2004
Total Posts : 2088
   Posted 12/7/2009 5:31 PM (GMT -7)   
shakehead I didn't use willpower when it came to micro-naps - never could be sure that even three alarms would wake me up. But if I fell asleep with my backside on a glass bottle of boiling hot water wrapped in a single sock... shocked I'd only stay asleep for a few minutes ! smilewinkgrin
nono As for consistency in your behaviour, don't expect it. Perfect consistency is a reasonable expectation of porridge, but not of humanity. yeah
I'm afraid that unless your cheese is really artificial, it will have tryptophan in it - you'd be better off with jam. Oops, beg pardon, jelly...
I'm off to beddy-byes now. I will saw some logs on your behalf ! smurf

Post Edited (snohare) : 12/7/2009 5:47:05 PM (GMT-7)


BWS27
Regular Member


Date Joined Nov 2009
Total Posts : 37
   Posted 12/7/2009 5:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Lmills
 
Not that you aren't already on enough meds, but you could always talk with your general doc about alertness medicine.  I was on Provigil for awhile when I went to working graveyard shift, very habit forming, but helped on those days when I just couldnt think straight from being so tired.  I work in corrections so my doctor thought it would be a good idea to keep me sharp while at work.  However, this was before I was dx with Crohns; I had the symptons but was yet to be dx'ed.  Might be a worth a shot!  What kind of paper projects do you have to work on??
29 year old husband and father of 2, Diagnosed with Crohns and resection surgery in Jan '09 (same ER trip), currently not winning the battle with pain, taking: 6mpPentasa, Prednisone and every vitamin possible! 
 
 

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson



LMills
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 1753
   Posted 12/7/2009 7:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I "accidentally" fell asleep for an hour...it helped, but I think part of the problem now is that I may be coming down with something. I haven't been out, but I remember my fiance mentioning that he had be in close contact with the customer horde, and he also said a LOT of people were sick.

BW-I hope you're not still working any graveyard shifts...I know those are so hard on you! I know a few people who worked in the freezer section and warehouse for Wal-Mart during that shift. I could never do it.

My first paper was on al-Mawardi and relating a book he wrote to the Ottoman classical age, but right now I have about three hundred words left on an English paper relating sociopolitical changes as reflected and influenced by British literature. They're actually a lot of fun, but I'm so [insert a million o's] tired!!!

You know how it is in school when you're burned out so you're just writing enough to get to the word count requirement, and your usual refrain is "If I only had one more day to get this done!!" Ah, the life of a student...
Diagnosed with Crohn's in May of 2008.
Currently taking: Prednisone, pentasa, omeprazole, and humira. Using probiotics and a multivitamin.
bonniegriffith.blogspot.com/
Learning how to live again.
"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


BWS27
Regular Member


Date Joined Nov 2009
Total Posts : 37
   Posted 12/7/2009 8:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I am done working graveyards, that was possibly the worst work experience I have ever had! Not only was I working graveyards with an hour commute each way, I also had a newborn baby at home and a wife that worked days to boot! Talk about no sleep!!! I have moved on and finally got enough time at work to get a regular schedule with weekends and holidays off. Ahhhh, the fun days of counting words and trying to squeeze those last few out! I actually do miss college and wish I would go back, but the paychecks sure are nice! Maybe once the wife finishes her nursing school and I get this Crohns back in check I can finally do some grad work. best of luck to finding a cure for your sleepyness.

ps

The alertness medicine I took was Provigil, it is a amazing medicine.
29 year old husband and father of 2, Diagnosed with Crohns and resection surgery in Jan '09 (same ER trip), currently not winning the battle with pain, taking: 6mpPentasa, Prednisone and every vitamin possible! 
 
 

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson



ivy6
Elite Member


Date Joined Sep 2005
Total Posts : 10404
   Posted 12/7/2009 10:15 PM (GMT -7)   
My 2c: if you need to sleep, sleep.

You may well find that you do more, and better quality work, if you sleep, than if you stay awake and try to push yourself through those two pages.

Just an idea: work for an hour; sleep for three hours; work for an hour, etc. Remember, your brain will keep processing information while you snooze, so it won't necessarily be lost time.

Ivy, who has been there herself, and did herself a lot of damage in the process.
Co-Moderator Crohn's Forum.

Medications for Crohn's ~~ Diet and Nutritional Therapy for Crohn's ~~ Dealing with Abscesses and Fistulae ~~


BWS27
Regular Member


Date Joined Nov 2009
Total Posts : 37
   Posted 12/7/2009 11:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Have to agree with Ivy as well! Be sure to rest when needed, we all know that we don't have the best systems for keeping the nutrients needed and the energy they provide! I like to take a few days a week and just rest...then push through the other days!
29 year old husband and father of 2, Diagnosed with Crohns and resection surgery in Jan '09 (same ER trip), currently not winning the battle with pain, taking: 6mpPentasa, Prednisone and every vitamin possible! 
 
 

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson



LMills
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 1753
   Posted Yesterday 1:21 AM (GMT -7)   
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! I'M FINISHED!!! Thank the universe or whatever deity you would like to choose.

I am definitely following the advice of both of you and sending myself to very, very long nap.

The carbs and short nap did help, by the way. I got the extra energy burst I needed, and I am now ready to crash.

Thank you all :)

Now I just have to figure out how to keep my energy up for the rest of my academic career. The "after" is another matter completely, and I don't want to talk about it...
Diagnosed with Crohn's in May of 2008.
Currently taking: Prednisone, pentasa, omeprazole, and humira. Using probiotics and a multivitamin.
bonniegriffith.blogspot.com/
Learning how to live again.
"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


ivy6
Elite Member


Date Joined Sep 2005
Total Posts : 10404
   Posted Yesterday 1:36 AM (GMT -7)   
LMills, there are lots of well-educated people here: I'm sure we'll be able to help you work out a strategy to survive.

Congrats on finishing. Sleep well.
Co-Moderator Crohn's Forum.

Medications for Crohn's ~~ Diet and Nutritional Therapy for Crohn's ~~ Dealing with Abscesses and Fistulae ~~


snohare
Veteran Member


Date Joined Oct 2004
Total Posts : 2088
   Posted Yesterday 6:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Somebody said...
I'm sure we'll be able to help you work out a strategy to survive.

idea Failing that, we can always sleep on it ! smilewinkgrin

LMills
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 1753
   Posted Yesterday 12:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Ivy-I know...it's just a matter having faith in myself to be able to accomplish what so many of you have. It's daunting in spite of how many people are able to offer advice and set great examples. Some people here cast a very great shadow from where I'm standing, BUT of course I don't view their accomplishments as an impossibility. I'm still in the acceptance phase (it looks like people stay here for a long time...).

Snohare-Absolutely!!!!
Diagnosed with Crohn's in May of 2008.
Currently taking: Prednisone, pentasa, omeprazole, and humira. Using probiotics and a multivitamin.
bonniegriffith.blogspot.com/
Learning how to live again.
"He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."


Sofee
Regular Member


Date Joined Sep 2009
Total Posts : 90
   Posted 12/10/2009 2:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Just to add my thoughts on this one: [sorry, it may be too late for a response.]
anyhow, I have to agree, I too struggle with staying awake during the day - especially in the afternoon. And yes, I would love to be able to drink coffee & not suffer from it.

Here are a few suggestions for a coffee substitute:

Try drinking pure apple juice - must be pure or eating an apple.
Try a brand of coffee called ORGANO GOLD GOURMET COFFEES - instant coffee with Ganoderma Extract [healthy coffee] but not sure what the caffeine amount is on this product - I have tried it and its pretty good, doesn't cause me too much grief.
Also, they say that exercise - preferably before bedtime - works wonders for a good nights sleep.
Although, who has the energy to do that just before bed???? But if you keep it simple, like walking the stairs, or shooting a bit of basket ball hoops, that might not be too bad.
And another good one is getting out doors and getting a bit of fresh air - this helps awaken you and gives you a good sleep too.
I feel for you and I know exactly what its like - I hate feeling tired and yes sometimes all I want to do is sleep!

Cindy
 
Sofee
praying for a good night's sleep and a happy bottom!! :o]
1998: Colitis - removal of colon, temp. ostomy 10 mths.
2000-07: disease free & doing well with j pouch.
2007-09: rectal pain & discomfort, loss of bowl control. diagnosed with Crohns March '09 currently on: Emtec, Azathioprine [Imarun] & Remicade. Med History: steroids, predizone, cipro, loperamide [imodium], gravol, previcid, cholestramine, xylocaine jelly, zinc oxide creme, etc.
 

New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
Forum Information
Currently it is Thursday, December 08, 2016 7:08 PM (GMT -7)
There are a total of 2,735,101 posts in 301,275 threads.
View Active Threads


Who's Online
This forum has 151370 registered members. Please welcome our newest member, calvin1242.
366 Guest(s), 13 Registered Member(s) are currently online.  Details
Tnmproject, 81GyGuy, geop, JNF, Girlie, LG13, NiceCupOfTea, DennisinNY, Gabzz, platinumpixie, bdavis, straydog, julymorning


Follow HealingWell.com on Facebook  Follow HealingWell.com on Twitter  Follow HealingWell.com on Pinterest
Advertisement
Advertisement

©1996-2016 HealingWell.com LLC  All rights reserved.

Advertise | Privacy Policy & Disclaimer