Staph? Boils? Bacteria? Too many baths?

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wednesday77
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   Posted 1/12/2010 9:48 PM (GMT -7)   
So I have had a crop of pimple-like (I guess I have to use the word boils) that have appeared on my buttocks and back of my thighs.  When I have a flare I tend to get a lot of skin eruptions, but has anyone experienced this?  My regular dr gave me a benzoyl peroxside wash to help it but thought I would see if anyone else has experienced this.  I have had it for about 3 weeks.  They are right under the skin and can't be drained. 
 
Thoughts?  Experiences?
32 yr old Female
Crohn's Colitis
DX 12/06
 
Currently on Remicade, trying to remember to take Multivitamin and Calcium, need to start taking Probiotics and Omega 3-6-9 and Vitamin D
 
 


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   Posted 1/12/2010 11:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Sounds like an abcess/possible fistula...I've heard they can appear in the strangest of places (as you mentioned back of your thighs). I'd see the GI on this one.

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   Posted 1/12/2010 11:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Could be pyoderma gangrenosum.
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   Posted 1/13/2010 8:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Mine eventually developed into hiddradinous supertiva and I take antibodics for them and sometimes get them cut open drained and packed. I also take cipro for them.
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wednesday77
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   Posted 1/14/2010 9:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I am pretty sure it's not pyoderma gangrenosum (from what I have googled)
 
I have had abcesses and it's not that either.
 
I was just on cipro and flagyl for 2 weeks last month.
 
I have had rashes break out on my skin when I get a flare - even drs and nurses don't know what it is all the time - just part of Crohn's I guess.
 
I had my regular dr look at it and she gave me a benzoyl peroxide wash they use to treat staph/mensa bacteria - I am using that and they are seeming to go down a bit.  I dont think it's anything TOO serious, I just wanted to know if anyone had had anything similar happen to them.
 
Thanks for the input though!
 
32 yr old Female
Crohn's Colitis
DX 12/06
 
Currently on Remicade, trying to remember to take Multivitamin and Calcium, need to start taking Probiotics and Omega 3-6-9 and Vitamin D
 
 


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   Posted 1/14/2010 11:32 PM (GMT -7)   
I'd be going to see the doc asap.

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bee propolis caps 500mg one cap twice/day
omegas 369 caps one cap twice/day
probiotics 10 billion cfu once/day
vitamins C-calcium ascorbate (easy on the gut) and vitamin A each once/day
Prodiem fibre supplement one cap before bed
I've also altered my diet (no junky stuff at all, processed, fast-foods, refined sugars, ect) and exercise regularly.
I went from 30+ bloody BM's/day with lots of lower back pain to an average of 5/day no bleeding no back pain and completely formed stools, still have severe urgency issues.
~~~~~~~~My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it! LOL :)~~~~~~~~


snohare
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   Posted 1/17/2010 6:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I get small pus-filled pimples that flare up on the front/insides of my thighs, sometimes on my knees and backside, and also occasionally on the backs of my hands and my face. They are notably deep down in the skin, they can be felt as a lump before they are ever seen. Once they appear in one place, they tend to come back on the exact same site, to the millimetre - I know this because when they go they often leave a bruise that lasts (so far, literally) forever. Happily this doesn't happen on my face or hands.
In my case they are inevitably a sign that my gut is not managing to digest something - often dairy products, there is one specific cheese that will always trigger it in less than a day !
My treatment is to burst the pimple (only satisfying part of the process ! eyes ), and then wash with as mild and chemical free a soap as I can find. (The more chemicals there are, the more the spot will continue as an inflamed, angry red scabby spot.)
My theory, for what it is worth, is that this is the result of leaky gut syndrome; it is the skin acting as an organ of excretion to get rid of imperfectly digested molecules that have prompted an immune sytem response, the pus being that "foreign" matter. If you don't wash the area after the pus is cleared out (and it should just be reabsorbed naturally eventually, even if the boils/spots are not burst) then skin bacteria like staphylococcus aureus may get into the open wound and cause further inflammation; equally, because of the abnormal inflammatory response that accompanies Crohns Disease, harsh chemicals in soaps may prolong inflammation.
Like I said, it's a theory. No facts to back it up really, just reasoning; I often wonder if it is the MAP/CRohn's bug just deciding to be thrawn and gnaw away at something. Whatever it is, in my case at least it always goes away, after a couple of weeks or so at most, without any drastic professional medical intervention such as antibiotics.
As the others said, it's something you want your doc to keep an eye on, but it sounds like you have got a safe enough treatment with the wash at present.

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   Posted 1/17/2010 7:50 AM (GMT -7)   
I'd check in with a dermatologist asap. They are much better with rashes than regular docs.
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   Posted 1/17/2010 11:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi,When i got diagnosed i had (quite hard to explain) like these patches of red on both shins it wasn't quite a lump as such but were quite painful to touch the GI back then said it was the crohns that had caused it. Thankfully never had it since. hope the docs soon sort it out for you. Bevx
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medchrt1
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   Posted 1/17/2010 12:08 PM (GMT -7)   
in small pore areas the pus doesnt pop so collects under skin. I have that,, but never attributed them to baths, rather baths and soaking in salt will tend to soften them and since they dont pop,, the body must deal with them internally and that takes a long time and even remain hard. of course when it doesnt and something still feeding it , then I think it is forming into larger ones like abscesses. I dont think its a skin issue (such as Vitamin A) but moreso how it is dealing with mucuous. What i do as skin treatment is sort of mix mineral oil or olive oil, onto wet body, after shower and then dry off, as a moisturizer. so related to dryness moreso than baths. peroxides are explosive so there is only a low concentration of it in the creams. seems to works more as a cleaner.
Definitely need something else that we can take to solve this problem from the inside. Since salt water tends to soften them this approach might work somehow.

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   Posted 1/17/2010 2:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Another thing I found helpful that the derm suggested dry your skin in that area with a hair dryer to get it as dry as possible.

http://www.dermnet.com/Hidradenitis-Suppurativa

http://dermis.multimedica.de/dermisroot/en/26463/diagnose.htm 


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wednesday77
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   Posted 1/22/2010 3:57 PM (GMT -7)   
So they are still here.  For over a month now.  Most have gone down but you can still see them all.  I have been using the benzoyl wash but it isn't a huge help.
 
Any other suggestions or just wait it out?  Does the flare have to fully end before my body can detox them out?
32 yr old Female
Crohn's Colitis
DX 12/06
 
Currently on Remicade, trying to remember to take Multivitamin and Calcium, need to start taking Probiotics and Omega 3-6-9 and Vitamin D
 
 


medchrt1
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   Posted 1/22/2010 4:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I think if you have alot of the fatty acids the body metabolism is relying moreso on the liver stored fat (triglyceride breakdown) than the pancreas enzymes and food breakdown. To help turn this around i posted zinc histidine complex on another post. This will help get zinc into you rather than just using a cream. It is called curazink (german company) so do the google on curazink and click the translate from google link page and read about the zinc-histidine to see if you agree.

Writer
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   Posted 1/22/2010 4:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Wednesday,

I had a single bump in the crease of the buttocks, relatively close to the anus, that sounds like what you are describing. It wasn't something you could squeeze to a head. I noticed it only when it became large (nearly the size of half a golf ball). I just kept it clean, and it ultimately mostly subsided on its own. I think when it was already much improved I happened to start an antibiotic for a sinus infection, and that seemed to bring it down even more (it's long gone now, but I think there was a skin discoloration there for at least several weeks after it no longer had a bump). So perhaps an oral antibiotic would be an option if yours don't seem to be responding to topical cleansing. But I agree with you that it's not a big problem.

wednesday77
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   Posted 1/23/2010 4:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you!!
 
Medchrt1, what does Zinc do for Crohn's?  I was JUST talking to someone about zinc the other day and have it on my list of things to look into for this.
 
Writer, thanks so much, I am glad to know it eventually went away.  I was on antibiotics 2 months back and suspect that they are what threw me into this flare (that won't go away! :( and will never take antibiotics again unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.  So frustrating though, and you are right, they cannot be drained and I can already tell there will be skin discoloration. 
 
Hey, in the grand scheme of things, not a big deal. :)
32 yr old Female
Crohn's Colitis
DX 12/06
 
Currently on Remicade, trying to remember to take Multivitamin and Calcium, need to start taking Probiotics and Omega 3-6-9 and Vitamin D
 
 

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